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    Fox News would report that.
    It is getting better. Our work there can now be graded as a C, instead of a D.
    But so what? It's be even better when we leave!

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    So if it's getting better, we're supposed to stay? What about if it gets worse? Either we stay independent of the results, which is exactly what people fear when they talk about the American Empire and which gives Iraq no incentives to pick up the slack, or we get less involved the worse things get, which obviously makes no sense. We simply can't afford (financially or militarily) to get more involved, as we all already know.

    Sometimes I think the next best thing to just leaving, and maybe even a better option from the perspective of stability in Iraq, is leaving but offering them money if they can keep the violence down. We'd probably be paying less than we do now, and they'd finally start investing in their own country's reconstruction. The only problem is accountability.

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    If it was a mistake to go, then it's a mistake to stay. If we made the wrong diagnosis we should change the treatment.
    "Instead of the “end of history,” we are now experiencing the end of a vocal limited-government movement in our nation’s capital. While most conservatives no longer defend balanced budgets and reduced spending, most liberals have grown lazy in defending civil liberties and now are approving wars that we initiate. The so-called “third way” has arrived and, sadly, it has taken the worst of what the conservatives and liberals have to offer." -Ron Paul

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    according to some people i know from my city who have fled iraq during the sadam regime:

    "the times under sadam were better then they are now under the americans."


    and that quote comes from people who have been tortured by sadams men.

    this is a real and serious comment.

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    ps. they and their family who are still living in Iraq are saying: "america should get the F*ck out of our country" (=iraq).

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    I would like to see some real figures of just how much violence is occurring in Iraq currently. The only charts and graphs I can find go up to around July--At which time the violence was roughly the highest since we have been over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F3d View Post
    I'm just saying that there's been a sudden change that has been good. If it keeps going like this then we'll be able to pull out in 2009 with no harm done.
    Yeah, no harm but a few thousand more dead.
    And you're just pulled the year 2009 out of your ass.

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