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  1. #31
    Yes, quite true, the situation is nothing new...

    and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
    People have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, through revolution, to freedom, for the most part.

    Most of us in the remnant don't have the stomach for that.

    So here we sit, fiddling as Rome burns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    This is a simplistic point of view but I'll write it anyway: If you look at the history of human behavior, you'll note that we behave like herd animals for the most part - it is a natural inclination. It's been a known fact throughout history. Which is why the Bible refers to us as "sheep" and the "Shepard". Those who rise to leadership levels know and understand this, and we are generally at the mercy of their intentions. Bernays understood this better than any modern day manipulator, which is why Goebbels was an ardent student, read all of his books, and even tried to get a meeting with him despite the fact that he was a jew.

    Bernays discusses how in WW1, most people were opposed to the war, but by having Germans stereotyped as monsters in various news-reels, or by spreading clever, racist, anti-German ethnic jokes, he and his Committee (the Creel Committee) were able to increase public support for US intervention on the behalf of the British Empire.

    Sound familiar?

    What sets us (Ron Paul supporters) apart from the masses, is that we are the remnant. I truly believe that. We are the remaining vestiges of an idea, that idea being true liberty. I believe, as Thomas Jefferson did, that it is God given. And I don't think God will abandon us. However I can't say that about the ignorant masses.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    BS.

    That slave-owning, witch-hunting society is a thing of the past. I imagine that in two generations racism will go the same way. Just because human beings have a natural tendency to be obedient to authority doesn't mean the causes of individual liberty, reason, peace and prosperity haven't made made progress. Our society has changed and for a great swath of the population it has changed for the better.
    Uhh, the Puritans didn't own slaves. That was the English Governors that eventually moved in to the US after the Indenture servitude era had been running low on steam, and after the boom of the Puritan based economy had encouraged England to start sending over more of it's Corporate representatives.

    None of your argument has anything to do with the cultural impact they made on early America that still is present and seen today. Puritan culture is still very alive in the power centers of the US, where they view anyone that is not successful in their own mind as part of Nature and to be abused. This is where that mindset comes from, and it's also part of where Mercantilism came from. Look at where the Puritans settled and where the centers of power are in the Federal Government. They are in the same locations.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, quite true, the situation is nothing new...



    People have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, through revolution, to freedom, for the most part.

    Most of us in the remnant don't have the stomach for that.

    So here we sit, fiddling as Rome burns.
    i don't think some of us are sitting and fiddling-- i think some of us are standing up and shouting out in the hopes of gaining attention.

    after all, one can create a scenario in which a person hears, but one cannot force that same person to actually listen. just ask Ron.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    BS.

    That slave-owning, witch-hunting society is a thing of the past.
    You think? As it stands now, we are all slaves to the Banksters--we are slaves to debt. Presidential Executive Order 11051 allows the government to separate family members "as it see's fit" under this Executive order--emergency powers (we have been under it since 1933, by-the-way). If we do not stop the tyranny, we will all be slaves on the global plantation!!


    As far as the witch-hunting society is concerned-- do you remember Ruby Ridge, Waco and Ed and Elaine Brown? How about the countless people serving heavy jail sentences for possession of marijuana? How about the tons of documented cases of the DEA making night raids on people, allegedly tipped off (by an informant) to have drugs. They bust into a home, at the witching hour of 3am, to find no drugs in the home, but the owner thought he was being burglarized and tried to defend his property, only to be shot to ribbons in the process.

    How about anyone who speaks out against Israel? You know, back in Nazi-Germany, the people turned away and closed their eyes so they wouldn't see what was happening. Is history to be repeated in America? Except this time, we will be the Jews.

    Americans are at the precipice, are we going to jump or prepared to make a stand? The leaders are not those who make the laws, our elected representatives were to be subservient to us--the people! The leaders are in each and every one of us! The choice is ours and ours alone. We can sit back, like the people throughout history, hoping for others to fight and win, or we can stand up for what is right!

    I could go on and on, giving you examples. Just because we aren't in Salem, Massachusetts (Circa 1692) or Nazi-Germany (Circa 1933) doesn't mean witch-hunts aren't taking place. Just because history has taught us the slaves were black doesn't mean we are not slaves today.

    It's time to be on the right side of history. As for me, I have made my decision long ago. I know the contest for liberty is not going to be a cake walk. The hardest part is waking the people up! This is your courtesy wake up call!!
    Last edited by donnay; 02-02-2012 at 07:07 PM.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    An aspect of this that is rarely if ever discussed is that of the psychology of identity and vicarious experience.

    I have observed that the more powerless people feel, the more they want to feel powerful. This appears to be very rational and understandable. What is not rational is the way people proceed pursuant to those drives, which run broadly to the irrational and indeed the self- and mutually-destructive.

    Given a strong desire to feel in possession of power that in fact remains elusive, people will irrationally do what feels like the next closest thing, which is to attach themselves to something that is powerful. What easier object than one's "nation" is there with which one might identify? Not too many and few, if any, to equal the power of the state, at least to casual and common eyes. We see this all the time in lesser examples including sports teams where people get very emotionally invested in who won what.

    Thus we have someone feeling powerless, wanting to feel otherwise but is unable to change his circumstance in the desired way. He psychologically attaches himself like a coat-tail hanger to something he sees as powerful, and therefore worthy of his praise - the "nation" or "the state" or the "government" - all the same nonsense. Having so attached himself and given the well understood proclivities of the mean citizen with respect to the pursuit of personal power, our sad sack is in the perfect condition to cheer on his idol-government as they acquire greater power by whatever means they can manage because as it becomes more powerful, by extension so does he. It is really a very simple and readily expectable development, given human nature. Equally predictable is the destruction of liberty that results because people are not only willing to be seduced by those telling them all the things they want to hear, but demand it and will become violent against anyone threatening the comfort that it promises. All astute power mongers recognize this and capitalize on it, often with disastrous results.

    Sadly, this appears to describe a very large majority of humanity.
    Indeed, such does seem to be the case. One of the things that kept me busy in a bad way in the Army, was whacking people who would abuse their authority.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

    Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, quite true, the situation is nothing new...



    People have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, through revolution, to freedom, for the most part.

    Most of us in the remnant don't have the stomach for that.

    So here we sit, fiddling as Rome burns.
    The system under which the sheep have been herded is entrenched because it's been 100 years since its establishment. We have our work cut out for us, but we are on the side of the Lord and we will prevail. Will it be easy? No. It's been really hard and it will probably get much much worse before it gets better. But look at what we've accomplished since the last election? The status quo is now considering how to deal with us, publicly saying such things as "we had better be nice to RP and his supporters" and throwing us 'bones' like Rand Paul as Veep. The other criminals, uh... candidates are parroting some of his views now. And, who knows what they're concocting behind the scenes. Last time, they laughed at us and successfully marginalized us. Revolutionary change like the kind we want - peaceful - like Gandhi - takes time. Be patient Grasshoppa.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    People have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, through revolution, to freedom, for the most part.
    Yes, but it is even worse. Even those professing their ardent support of freedom and "revolution" are anemic in terms of action. Consider the Free State Project. At least a decade old and what have they accomplished? Next to nothing. If we cannot reclaim one of the smallest states - one LOUSY state - how can anyone seriously suggest that freedom will indeed be reestablished in the USA? Such claims are ridiculous in the face of the truth.

    It remains with me that the only likely chance freedom has will be in the aftermath of a truly monumental global catastrophe - one of such proportions that the governments of nation-states as now commonly exist are greatly attenuated or even eliminated in the wake. I give marginal credence to the possibility that a severe economic collapse might suffice to get people out of their seats, though a strongly surviving government is most likely to turn openly violent against even the most modest challenges to its authority under such circumstances... wounded animals being what they tend to be.

    So here we sit, fiddling as Rome burns.
    Indeed.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.


  10. #38
    they want to be taken care of like caged white rats

  11. #39
    I agree with this.

    Also, one of the first posts had Philelm say the society is "souless"...I wouldn't say souless...but the soul is sleeping/numbed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Travlyr View Post
    They don't want tyranny. They don't know any better.

    War is Peace
    Indoctrination is Education
    Fake Money is Real
    Tyranny is Freedom

  12. #40
    "Forgive them, for they know not what they do"

    Alexander Solzhenitsyn I think sums it up in his Warning to the West:

    "At the height of Stalin's terror in 1937-38, if we divide the number of persons executed by the number of months, we get more than 40,000 persons shot per month! Here are the figures: 17 a year, 10 a month, more than 1,000 a month, more than 40,000 a month! Thus, that which had made it difficult for the democratic West to form an alliance with pre-revolutionary Russia had, by 1941, grown to such an extent and still did not prevent the entire united democracy of the world - England, France, the United States, Canada, Australia and small countries - from entering into a military alliance with the Soviet Union. How is this to be explained? How can we understand it? Here we can offer a few explanations.

    The first, I think, is that the entire united democracy of the world was too weak to fight against Hitler's Germany alone. If this is the case, then it is a terrible sign. It is a terrible portent for the present day. If all these countries together could not defeat Hitler's little Germany, what are they going to do today, when more than half the globe is flooded with totalitarianism? I don't want to accept this explanation.


    The second explanation is perhaps that there was simply an attack of panic - of fear - among the statesmen of the day. They simply didn't have sufficient confidence in themselves, they simply had no strength of spirit, and in this confused state decided to enter into an alliance with Soviet totalitarianism. This is also not flattering to the West.


    Finally, the third explanation is that it was a deliberate device. Democracy did not want to defend itself. For defense it wanted to use another totalitarian system, the Soviet totalitarian system.


    I'm not talking now about the moral evaluation of this, I'm going to talk about that later. But in terms of simple calculation, how shortsighted, what profound self-deception!


    We have a Russian proverb: "Do not call a wolf to help you against the dogs." If dogs are attacking and tearing at you, fight against the dogs, but do not call a wolf for help. Because when the wolves come, they will destroy the dogs, but they will also tear you apart."




    The form of totalitarianism we are fighting against is the kind that grows at the speed of grass - imperceptible to the eye but notable over time. It grows up to envelop the people slowly and completly, never rasing much alarm. This is precisly the point when it is too late to do anything about it. I fear that this is the most potent form of all totalitarin incarnations.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Yes, but it is even worse. Even those professing their ardent support of freedom and "revolution" are anemic in terms of action. Consider the Free State Project. At least a decade old and what have they accomplished? Next to nothing. If we cannot reclaim one of the smallest states - one LOUSY state - how can anyone seriously suggest that freedom will indeed be reestablished in the USA? Such claims are ridiculous in the face of the truth.

    It remains with me that the only likely chance freedom has will be in the aftermath of a truly monumental global catastrophe - one of such proportions that the governments of nation-states as now commonly exist are greatly attenuated or even eliminated in the wake. I give marginal credence to the possibility that a severe economic collapse might suffice to get people out of their seats, though a strongly surviving government is most likely to turn openly violent against even the most modest challenges to its authority under such circumstances... wounded animals being what they tend to be.
    I agree with this point sincerely.

    In my understanding of history, only when a society is in complete shut down, when every man women and child is face to face with political reality, and is conciously thinking about their political future, are they prepared to accept a new political future or a new set of ideas to embrace.

    We need to hope to have the numbers when that time comes to fill the vaccuum of ideas and reinstitute our ideas and be prepared to reject the statist, murderous ideas, that led us to this time in history.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by flightlesskiwi View Post
    i don't think some of us are sitting and fiddling-- i think some of us are standing up and shouting out in the hopes of gaining attention.

    after all, one can create a scenario in which a person hears, but one cannot force that same person to actually listen. just ask Ron.
    That is so key. There is such a big difference than someone hearing and actually listening!
    Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
    ~ George Washington

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by VoluntaryAmerican View Post
    I agree with this point sincerely.

    In my understanding of history, only when a society is in complete shut down, when every man women and child is face to face with political reality, and is conciously thinking about their political future, are they prepared to accept a new political future or a new set of ideas to embrace.

    We need to hope to have the numbers when that time comes to fill the vaccuum of ideas and reinstitute our ideas and be prepared to reject the statist, murderous ideas, that led us to this time in history.
    +a bunch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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  17. #44
    Ron does win the under 29 vote, and that was impossible 4 years ago

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    As long as the average American can sit on the sofa at the end of the day with a bag of chips, a soda, and the remote control, it's hard to get them to care about anything important. Just leave American Idol alone!!
    Its the Fahrenheit 451 effect. If you give the people enough pleasure then they ignore the harsh reality they are in.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Fan View Post
    They want tyranny because they are afraid. They are afraid of the terrorists, the criminals, the corporations that want to kill and maim their customers, the private schools teaching 'hate', the 'chaos' of decentralized decisionmaking, and the 'stinginess' of charitable donors who only want to give to people who are worse off than themselves. And until we address those fears, the majority of people will not be interested in liberty.
    "Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain."

    and


    "A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp."

    Both from 1984.


    People are afraid. In that fear they are willing to accept anything. Make people afraid and justify their fear and they will give you any power you want. And those in power play these fears like you play with Play-Doh, molding and forming it to fit the given situational mold.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Its the Fahrenheit 451 effect. If you give the people enough pleasure then they ignore the harsh reality they are in.
    Ah, Bread And Circuses-an age old, time-tested technique that almost always works.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

  21. #48
    This is why governments have and always will expand and eventually fail. It is against one's individual self interest to stand up against the state. Through political action, it is extremly unlikely that your individual actions will have any impact on diminishing the power of the state, yet it is guaranteed to cost you time, money, stress, etc. if you try to do something. Additionally, civil disobedience and/or non-compliance have even higher costs at the individual level. For most people it is the rational, self interested thing to do to just remain apathetic and inactive.



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  23. #49
    People have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, through revolution, to freedom, for the most part.

    Most of us in the remnant don't have the stomach for that.

    So here we sit, fiddling as Rome burns.
    This. $#@!. +rep
    Last edited by ryanmkeisling; 02-02-2012 at 11:30 PM.
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    -Thomas Jefferson

  24. #50
    I've come to this conclusion a long time ago. It's sadomasochism. The human herd instinct. It never ends well. WW3 and millions dead will change the status quo. I'm not sure that anything else will.
    Last edited by Endgame; 02-03-2012 at 03:20 AM.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post


    "A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp."

    Both from 1984.


    People are afraid. In that fear they are willing to accept anything. Make people afraid and justify their fear and they will give you any power you want. And those in power play these fears like you play with Play-Doh, molding and forming it to fit the given situational mold.
    Yes. People are afraid. They are afraid of everything, as I posted above. That is why they don't want freedom. But why are they afraid? And how can we help them conquer their fear? Someone please help me understand this.

  26. #52
    on the bright side this gets us to a libertarian society

    on the not-so-bright side it's the Mad Max route

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Fan View Post
    Yes. People are afraid. They are afraid of everything, as I posted above. That is why they don't want freedom. But why are they afraid? And how can we help them conquer their fear? Someone please help me understand this.
    I remember back in the 60's in a small mid-west town of total insignificance the siren would go off and we were instructed to duck under our desks as a drill in case of nuclear attack. Yeah, I was scared. I wondered if the desk was stronger than the ceiling.

    If the tornado siren went off, then we were drilled to go into the hallway and place our hands over our heads. Yeah, I was scared.

    When I heard on the news that burglars and gangs were infesting our town to buy drugs, yeah, I was scared. Then one day I learned that a murder had taken place in our small town, scared again.

    On TV, if it bleeds it leads. Hitler wanted to kill all Americans. World War II was to keep us safe for democracy. The Viet Nam war was to spread the good word of Democracy ... let alone the fact that my friend Benny who had to wear thick glasses just to see was put on the front line. He was killed... yeah, I was scared.

    Cops bust down doors, beat people, taser them, and kill if necessary without warrants signed by judges as required by law. Yeah, I'm scared.

    Who is not scared of Islamo-fascists hiding under their beds? They want to kill us because we are free.

    You can see it all over TV and the radio all the time. Blow em up... beat em up... rapists... crazy... demented people with guns everywhere.. in the schools... in the airport... in the subway... they are everywhere... on the streets. Cop shows, criminal investigation, judges and juries, emergency sirens, evil powers wanting to take over the world and destroy all the good to perpetuate evil.

    Why all this fear in life?

    Control.

    It is all about control.

    "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild international Banking Dynasty, 1790
    Whoever controls the money supply controls the people.

    "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." - James Madison
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power of money should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson
    "Everyone who believes in freedom must work diligently for sound money, fully redeemable. Nothing else is compatible with the humanitarian goals of peace and prosperity." -- Ron Paul

    Brother Jonathan

  28. #54
    This!

    While I am certainly glad of the progress that has been made, and that on some fronts, we seem to "winning", the sad fact of the matter is that all of that is supercial and illusory.

    Let there be a massive massacre by some lunatic with a firearm and watch how fast all the "gains" made on the firearms freedom front dry up and blow away.

    Let there be some bio terror event (real or government manufactured, like the anthrax attacks) that kills tens or hundreds of thousands of people and watch how fast people will fall in line.

    Government could tell them at that point, that they could only save themselves by butchering their first born children, and people would do it, happily.

    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    "Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain."

    and


    "A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp."

    Both from 1984.


    People are afraid. In that fear they are willing to accept anything. Make people afraid and justify their fear and they will give you any power you want. And those in power play these fears like you play with Play-Doh, molding and forming it to fit the given situational mold.

  29. #55
    "In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet, and say to us, "Make us your slaves, but feed us."
    Why can't everybody else leave everybody else alone?

  30. #56
    "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
    ~Samuel Adams

    "Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants."
    ~Benjamin Franklin

    "The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them."
    ~Patrick Henry

    "The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
    ~James Madison

    "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
    ~Thomas Paine

    "We may congratulate ourselves that this cruel war [civil war] is nearing its end. It has cost a vast amount of treasure and blood ... It has indeed been a trying hour for the Republic; but I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless."
    ~President Abraham Lincoln

    "Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master."
    ~Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "No one is useless in this world who lightens the burdens of another.” ~ Charles Dickens



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Travlyr View Post
    I remember back in the 60's in a small mid-west town of total insignificance the siren would go off and we were instructed to duck under our desks as a drill in case of nuclear attack. Yeah, I was scared. I wondered if the desk was stronger than the ceiling.

    If the tornado siren went off, then we were drilled to go into the hallway and place our hands over our heads. Yeah, I was scared.

    When I heard on the news that burglars and gangs were infesting our town to buy drugs, yeah, I was scared. Then one day I learned that a murder had taken place in our small town, scared again.

    On TV, if it bleeds it leads. Hitler wanted to kill all Americans. World War II was to keep us safe for democracy. The Viet Nam war was to spread the good word of Democracy ... let alone the fact that my friend Benny who had to wear thick glasses just to see was put on the front line. He was killed... yeah, I was scared.

    Cops bust down doors, beat people, taser them, and kill if necessary without warrants signed by judges as required by law. Yeah, I'm scared.

    Who is not scared of Islamo-fascists hiding under their beds? They want to kill us because we are free.

    You can see it all over TV and the radio all the time. Blow em up... beat em up... rapists... crazy... demented people with guns everywhere.. in the schools... in the airport... in the subway... they are everywhere... on the streets. Cop shows, criminal investigation, judges and juries, emergency sirens, evil powers wanting to take over the world and destroy all the good to perpetuate evil.

    Why all this fear in life?
    I think that lack of fear is one of the "psychologically predispositioning" character traits which predisposition one to be libertarian. Libertarians just aren't that easily scared. I have never been scared of terrorists. I have never been scared of chaos and pillaging erupting in the absence of a government. I have never been scared of the boogieman of businessmen charging high prices or getting monopolies or abusing us in all the different ways they supposedly would without gov't restraining them. I can't even relate to these fears.

    Many people appear to base much of their world-view on fear. That makes them more easily manipulated. Of course one can have a lot of these fears, can be thus vulnerable to a lot of the fear-mongering tactics of the gov't, and nevertheless break out of that and come to libertarian conclusions anyway, ala Brother Jonathan (Travlyr) above (and many other libertarians I know). It's a lot easier, though, if you have a less-than-average fear factor.

    Fear is the tool they use against us. Let us all realize that and train ourselves to be impervious to their attempts at mongering fear in us, and also in learning techniques to break through the fear barriers the goons have covered others with and disable the fear viruses the goons have implanted in people's minds.
    Last edited by helmuth_hubener; 02-03-2012 at 10:07 AM.

  33. #58
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  34. #59
    Congress voted to allow the president to imprison or kill anyone with no due process. No one noticed. Is a false flag even necessary?

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Endgame View Post
    Congress voted to allow the president to imprison or kill anyone with no due process. No one noticed. Is a false flag even necessary?
    They cannot arrest all of us! There is still a semblance of freedom out there, if they move too quickly then they have to worry about a mass awakening!

    Fear allows them to get tighter control, until they are completely in control.
    Last edited by donnay; 02-03-2012 at 01:26 PM.
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