How I Defeated a Die Hard War Monger! Who Is For Newt! (Like a Boss!)

[AngryCanadian]

Spread It If you want


It may be long But worth the read And all this took place in a Private Messaging battle.

(we didn't take a drop of oil.)
Yes we did, blackwater was there for the oil and they were the ones protecting the oil buildings.

Look it up further i did my work.

(world peace is never attainable...how can i vote for someone who presumes that it can happen?)

So you want everyone to die then?
and do you want the world to look like this?



Thats the end result of war and nukes dropping.

Peace can only restore Americas badly damaged World Image, the more countries you attack the more terrorists will be born from Remember that.

preach to someone else....unless you can explain to me this one question as it relates to the golden rule: if there's never been world peace and world peace is never attainable...how can i vote for someone who presumes that it can happen?

His reply was this above bold important lines and quoted
The Truth about Iraq.

You want to know the Truth? Iraq was not a threat there were no WMDs found in Iraq, nor any terrorist base camps The Iraq was a wasted war countless of soldiers lost there lives and for what? Control influence the spread of Americas of influence over the grasp on the middle east and North Africa.


You stated this in your pm
(i simply stated i don't like ron pauls vague foreign policies)

Oh yeah? you know what? America is broke cant pay the its further conflicts.

You should know this that during the cold war The West never went to war against the Soviet Union so what happened to them?
Russia never had any attention on attacking the western countries unless Russia was attacked from the inside.

That would be alot worse then because the Russians would be blaming the attack on the west but then the Western governments would just deny that they had a role in the attack, thus that would have started WW3 during the cold war era.

Thankfully era has been the only peaceful era we had, listen there is no such then as al qaeda.

Al qaeda now these days has been used as a term to call out all other terrorist groups in the ME because the Mainstream anchors have a hard time naming the actual terrorist groups that are out there in the ME.

Did you know that a former CIA Agent backs Ron Paul foreign policy?


Ron Paul is a non intervention compere to those War mongering wanna bees.

And Personally i have nothing against Israel however If election candidates are running for there respected countries shouldn't there interest come first to the country they are running for?

For example If i am running for the white house in America my polices and interest would be solo Be American For America not Israel


Ron Paul foreign policies are right on the spot and correct, want to know something interested?

Did you know during the war in Bosnia The Jews as in Israel actually supported the Bosnian Muslims? who by the now they now in bosnia want turn it into a Islamic state.

Israel was against its own supporters who helped the jews during world war II that's right you heard it!


Israel during the war in Bosnia was and were against Christians
and haha and now They same country who was against Christians in Bosnia wants you to believe and pretend that Iran is a threat and it must be taken out by war.


The same way it lied about the threat of saddam and its WMDs, and the fake threat of terrorists.

Personally Israel can take care of its self.


The reason i joined this site is because i wanted to search for reasons on the iraqi war and boy i sure did find alot.

Oh by the way Sir or mama i highly recommend you read the American century.

His last reply

I can agree with the last statement and absolutely not, i don't want to see death and destruction but i believe right now...today...we have to be a country that is not on a defensive and shows strength. at least for the next couple years until things settle back down world wide. I agree that more terrorists are born from attack and can appreciate that thoght. but you still didn't answer me at all....how can world peace be achieved by the golden rule? how long are you going to sit back and watch as we are attacked and retaliated against for our previous # ups? you dig? if we pull out now...back off...and say...hey man...i'm sorry. we are done now...never happen again... we will be attacked as often as possible.

My Final reply to him.

Once again your proving you lack knowledge and understanding of the outside world, coming from me and i have seen 3 to 4 different political systems.


As For Iraq and Kuwait looks you dont know the history between the two, before the Americans selected the puppet prime minster of Kuwait.

Kuwait Belonged to Iraq, that's why the Iraqis were fighting about, so why did the Americans came in Kuwait in the first place?

OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL and Regional Control, Hench the Bases in Kuwait.


( ron paul says he blames the intelligence agencies for 9/11. ido you? )

No And also thats not what Ron Paul is blaming at, Ron Paul is blaming the foreign policy Ron Paul has never blamed America but he has blamed the foreign policy.

And thats a difference.


Terrorists hate the American foreign policy, they do not hate us because we are free, or our freedoms they hate the polices that are taking place in the middle east and in north Africa.


So tell me Greg if Terrorists hated Americas freedom and there lifestyle how come there weren't any Terrorists back in the 1950s? or 1920s even?

You have to understand that.

End Result i own the debate! Boom and Bam! like a Boss! he didn't reply afterwords i waited now three days for a reply from him or her still no reply i guess he or she has chickened out!


Important key mentions when debating a war monger
1950 Lifestyle 1920s and why there were no terrorists back then and other key mentions Bosnian Christians do not mention Serb when debating because they will get the message eventually.


Other thing i have mentioned is how come Israel backed the Muslim and terrorists to kill and get rid of its WW2 ally the Bosnian Christians? and now Israel wants you to believe that Iran is a threat the same lie that was used against.


Other important mentioned key words Blackwater mercenaries when they hear that name i would bet they would know what they did while in Iraq.
This is how you debate a war monger!

[Dsylexic]

whenever somebody calls Ron isolationist ,i just point out that ron wants to bring down military budget to 2006 levels.did 2006 look a bad year -security wise for you?ron is actually proposing increasing the pentagon budget year on year from that point.

this is hardly isolationism or weak defense.

[Mini-Me]

If the topic of "war for oil" is brought back up, mention that it isn't necessarily about just gaining physical control of reserves. It's about protecting petrodollar hegemony, which is really the only thing standing between the dollar and hyperinflation. The countries we invade are countries that threaten this system. It WILL end though, and as soon as the OPEC companies jump ship and start selling oil in another currency, the dollar will quickly become worthless. See this thread; this video gives a quick overview.)

Our consumer economy is based on consumer imports and oil imports to fuel their transportation, and even our food production relies on oil. Hopefully petrodollars will go out of fashion slowly rather than suddenly, because as soon as we're cut off from oil and other imports, we're in big trouble. China and other countries will dollar-dump shortly after to obtain whatever they can get for their dollars, so that will only accelerate the crash. We have no manufacturing base, so we won't be able to legitimately export enough in exchange for all the oil we need...so basically, we're going to be in for a major and extremely painful economic adjustment. I hope this adjustment happens slowly enough to give us time to rebuild our manufacturing base and/or return to more local food sources, because if it doesn't, we might literally see third world famines hit the US.

After the realization of our situation sinks in, a neocon might at first think, "Well, shit, in that case, I totally support doing whatever it takes to keep the US from becoming a third world country! Threaten EVERYONE with war if they don't play ball!" However, these are ironically the same policies which have put the system under such heavy and imminent threat: The more you bully and intimidate other countries, and the more you depreciate the currency funding an unsustainable empire, the more pressing it becomes for other countries to find another arrangement for selling and purchasing oil...and the less the rest of the world will care when we spiral into oblivion as a result.

[otherone]

Simply ask your warmonger why he wants to borrow money from the Chinese to kill Muslims. International adventure is for the rich kids.

[Jeffster]

In what way is this a "priority"?