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Thread: Think SOPA and PIPA Are Bad? This is Even Worse

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    Think SOPA and PIPA Are Bad? This is Even Worse

    lamar Smith, author of SOPA and the moron who wouldn't give the Paul/Frank Marijuana bill a hearing, is now trying to pass this bill:

    The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011

    "under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you've been assigned."
    "Can't get healthcare to our old people, can't educate our young people, but we can bomb the sh*t out of your country alright" - George Carlin

    "We're in two wars that are costing us trillions of dollars. Those trillions of dollars should have been left in the economy to build jobs and produce prosperity here at home" - Ron Paul

    "We spend 1.5 trillion dollars overseas in wars we don't need to be in and we need to cut there. And then put that money back into our economy here." - Ron Paul



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    Theocrats...
    "For if you [the rulers] suffer your people to be ill-educated, and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them, what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves [and outlaws] and then punish them."
    -Sir Thomas More (1478-1535), Utopia, Book 1

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    Wow...this is practically a backdoor to requiring licenses to access the internet.
    "When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system's game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight, because once they've got you violent then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don't know how to handle is non-violence and humor. "

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    ?
    The NSA already does all of that, they just want to make it fully legal?
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.

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    "Can't get healthcare to our old people, can't educate our young people, but we can bomb the sh*t out of your country alright" - George Carlin

    "We're in two wars that are costing us trillions of dollars. Those trillions of dollars should have been left in the economy to build jobs and produce prosperity here at home" - Ron Paul

    "We spend 1.5 trillion dollars overseas in wars we don't need to be in and we need to cut there. And then put that money back into our economy here." - Ron Paul

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    this has nothing to do with child porn; this is Hollywood using the backdoor to accomplish what they couldn't front door

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    They make it to protect the children so people against it sound like they do not want to protect children. Its overused and unfortunately it still works.
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    what does this have to do with getting ron elected....



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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    what does this have to do with getting ron elected....
    It can bring people who hold internet freedom as their top priority into Paul's camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    this has nothing to do with child porn; this is Hollywood using the backdoor to accomplish what they couldn't front door
    Exactly. Only bills written by lobbyists pass Congress.
    Quote Originally Posted by President John F. Kennedy
    And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. That we are only 6% of the world's population, and that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94% of mankind. That we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity, and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.
    I need an education in US history, from the ground up. Can you help point me to a comprehensive, unbiased, scholarly resource?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravik View Post
    lamar Smith, author of SOPA and the moron who wouldn't give the Paul/Frank Marijuana bill a hearing, is now trying to pass this bill:

    The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011

    "under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you've been assigned."
    Wheres lamar Smith i will try and tweet him

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    So, ISP's are supposed to be police agencies now. Hmmm, how much will they get paid for their mandatory slave work? Oh thats right, nothing.

    Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX21], I vomit in your face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    what does this have to do with getting ron elected....
    1) category is general politics
    2) Ron will vote against this as he should, and the MSM will bring it up and say he wants kiddie porn.

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    Guess Congress never heard of a proxy or vpn
    Our rights are not derived from man but exist because we are men.

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    Btw - this is going to be a non-starter as far as getting grassroots action against it. The bill does not require the isp to retain your internet activity for 18 months - only the temporary ip address that you were assigned, which is why more people will simply move to a proxy. As far as I can tell (from what I read) it is a misguided attempt to stem internet child pornography but it empowers the government to imprison officials of banks who provide the medium for paying for the illicit material. Maybe I'm reading that wrong but that's what it looks like. Plus, once the isp's get a gander at the hardware, software, and personnel costs of this they will rebel.
    Our rights are not derived from man but exist because we are men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centure7 View Post
    So, ISP's are supposed to be police agencies now. Hmmm, how much will they get paid for their mandatory slave work? Oh thats right, nothing.

    Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX21], I vomit in your face.
    hxx p://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1981
    Lamar Smith needs to go, replaced by Mack



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    The good thing about this is pretty soon they won't hate us for our freedomz anymore because we won't have any /dark sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by centure7 View Post
    Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX21], I vomit in your face.
    Vomit: Added to federal DNA database.
    Quote Originally Posted by President John F. Kennedy
    And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. That we are only 6% of the world's population, and that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94% of mankind. That we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity, and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.
    I need an education in US history, from the ground up. Can you help point me to a comprehensive, unbiased, scholarly resource?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravik View Post
    lamar Smith, author of SOPA and the moron who wouldn't give the Paul/Frank Marijuana bill a hearing, is now trying to pass this bill:

    The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011

    "under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you've been assigned."
    Guilty until proven Innocent.

    If they want to track every move I make every place I go, they better get a $#@!ing warrant.

    Only Terrorists and US Politicians hide behind Children.
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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Considering people have been raided just because they accidentally clicked on a link to Child Pornography, or have gotten viruses that use their PC to traffic it, I think we need a "Protecting Internet Users from Unlawful Arrest Act"
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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