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    Default New "exneocon" ppl are waking up!

    Yeah there is a ton waking up, and i'm one of them. Unreal how much I liked Fox News for so long, then finally I did my research on this guy who they always blasted and ignored and what do ya know, Fox News is nothing but another bias lie spitting machine aimed at tipping the conservatives into the grandios scheme of non stop war propaganda from both sides. Its amazing how active you become once you see the truth, and how as you learn more about Ron Paul the more you love him. A whole lot in my family and friends have seen the truth now as well, due to the fact of the continuous youtube links I send them all... "ohhh look at this, no look at this one!" amazing whats happening, the only thing ppl need to do, is DO their OWN research. A lot of ppl out there never will but say they do...

    Another problem i've found, with for example my grandparents, is a whole lot of the older crowd that votes does not know how to do research on the internet, in fact I know a lot of older ppl who don't even own a computer and only rely on MSM for the truth... If we could just reach this crowd we would be gold. People my parents age can do the research but most won't because they have been brainwashed by fox and rush... So the way I reached them is to show them blatant bias against Ron Paul, they believe Fox News really is 'fair and balanced' still, and I can't blame them because I was one of them too. But I also see now that since I know the truth I have an obligation to spread it.

    I've emailed almost everyone at Fox multiple times in a detailed msg saying how betrayed I now felt after having supported them for so long. Probably won't hear back, but one day they will pay for the lies and blatant bias they've spread.



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    Welcome to the Revolution!

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    Welcome,

    The other candidates don't give a darn about your civil liberties and fiscal conservatism but now adopt Ron Paul's rhetoric because it is now "sexy".

    Nobody but Paul

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    Are you a former Rush, Hannity, Medved, Beck believer?

    I'm guilty of still listening to them at times, but only to see how bad the bias has become. Once you've been awakened, it is infuriating. What kills me is how they have all the control over what goes over the airwaves. They can make stuff up, they can screen calls, they can cut off callers, they can talk over callers. And then, of course, they can promote and spin with their candidate with abandon. The truth is that they want Obama (or someone with the same policies as Obama) to win. We have a one-party system, after all.

    And a major part of their propaganda is that they are somehow NOT THE MEDIA.

    Makes me sick. Literally.
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    I never really listened to Rush much, but I was a Beck guy aside from when he tried to be a preacher (which happened a lot) I also like Oreilly and Cavuto, but both just tick me off now. Its amazing how much they even avoid saying the name of Ron Paul, never have been more disgusted in the deceit they've fed me for so long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howfar View Post
    I never really listened to Rush much, but I was a Beck guy aside from when he tried to be a preacher (which happened a lot) I also like Oreilly and Cavuto, but both just tick me off now. Its amazing how much they even avoid saying the name of Ron Paul, never have been more disgusted in the deceit they've fed me for so long...
    I always liked watching Beck try to diagram things on his blackboard and whatnot.

    It could only be described as Insane Troll Logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howfar View Post
    I never really listened to Rush much, but I was a Beck guy aside from when he tried to be a preacher (which happened a lot) I also like Oreilly and Cavuto, but both just tick me off now. Its amazing how much they even avoid saying the name of Ron Paul, never have been more disgusted in the deceit they've fed me for so long...
    Beck's show is what you take from it. Some people are going to be unnerved by his faith and his partiality towards Israel. However, he's miles ahead of the other schmucks in terms of presenting the truth. It's not even close. The other pundits basically stick to the whole Republican loyalty script, which is very unbecoming.
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    I'm SOOO happy to see such an influx of passionate newcomers! It's amazing how quickly people go from open-mindedness to epiphany to flat-out conviction. The message really is continuing to spread, one person at a time. I'm not sure if there will ever be a ceiling for how high our "hard support" will go, but I'm glad we haven't reached it yet!

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Beck's show is what you take from it. Some people are going to be unnerved by his faith and his partiality towards Israel. However, he's miles ahead of the other schmucks in terms of presenting the truth. It's not even close. The other pundits basically stick to the whole Republican loyalty script, which is very unbecoming.
    I agree that Beck is substantially different, but I also view him as "honey, honey, poison." He'll talk a good game to round up the disenchanted conservatives and build up his credibility, but when push comes to shove, he'll throw anyone promoting real change right under the bus. Consider Deborah Medina, and what he's been doing recently with Ron Paul hit pieces. What really matters is what he says when elections are happening. In the past I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt a little more, but I'm becoming more and more convinced he's just playing a "propagandist of last resort" role to subtly guide us back to the farm, so to speak. Maybe I'm wrong, but regardless...honey, honey, poison. We can do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by President John F. Kennedy
    And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. That we are only 6% of the world's population, and that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94% of mankind. That we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity, and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.
    I need an education in US history, from the ground up. Can you help point me to a comprehensive, unbiased, scholarly resource?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgadget View Post
    Are you a former Rush, Hannity, Medved, Beck believer?

    I'm guilty of still listening to them at times, but only to see how bad the bias has become. Once you've been awakened, it is infuriating. What kills me is how they have all the control over what goes over the airwaves. They can make stuff up, they can screen calls, they can cut off callers, they can talk over callers. And then, of course, they can promote and spin with their candidate with abandon. The truth is that they want Obama (or someone with the same policies as Obama) to win. We have a one-party system, after all.

    And a major part of their propaganda is that they are somehow NOT THE MEDIA.

    Makes me sick. Literally.
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    Been there done that. Was a Rush fan for 20 years and Hannity for 4 or 5 years. FOX News. The whole works. I voted for Paul in 2008 in the primaries but never really got involved in the movement. Then I saw a video one day about a year ago about how FOX ignored Ron Paul in 2008 and even left him out of a debate. I remembered that, but it never really hit me at the time because I got my news from FOX. I then decided to do my own research and was I astounded at the information I found. I woke up in more ways than one. Rush and Hannity simply make me nauseous anymore to listen to and I canceled my cable TV because that is nothing but consumer driven brainwashing too. Nothing to see on the network news channels either. I can watch the streams of the debates still while not supporting them financially.

    I do enjoy NPR now. They actually have civil discussions with opposing view points and no yelling.
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    It takes time and work to lift the filters from your eyes. Welcome.
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    Welcome, my friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howfar View Post
    But I also see now that since I know the truth I have an obligation to spread it.
    This is something we all have realized. I've only been 'Awake' for a couple of weeks now. I did like Paul in 2008, but had no interest in politics, and never knew much more than he was the guy that wants to legailize pot. Now I know the full truth, and it's Nobody But Paul!

    You are also exactly right about the crowd that doesn't get their info from the internet. There are plenty of rural and older folks who flat out don't use computers. Then there are the older folks that use computers (but don't really know how to get around), then there's the lot that just don't care enough about politics to check out Ron Paul away from the MSM.

    We need to get to all those people!

    Ron Paul 2012!

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    Quote Originally Posted by millercards View Post
    This is something we all have realized. I've only been 'Awake' for a couple of weeks now. I did like Paul in 2008, but had no interest in politics, and never knew much more than he was the guy that wants to legailize pot. Now I know the full truth, and it's Nobody But Paul!

    You are also exactly right about the crowd that doesn't get their info from the internet. There are plenty of rural and older folks who flat out don't use computers. Then there are the older folks that use computers (but don't really know how to get around), then there's the lot that just don't care enough about politics to check out Ron Paul away from the MSM.

    We need to get to all those people!

    Ron Paul 2012!

    Love ya, millercards! Welcome...

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    Welcome, I was in the same crowd as you. I was more of a liberal than most neo-cons but I was all for going to war to "get em turrists".

    You become so much less apathetic when you hear the truth. Its intoxicating because its the message our nation fought and was founded on.

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    It's pretty amazing once their blindfold has been lifted, eh?

    Your job now is to help others lift their blindfolds as well. It's not easy. As you know, if someone would have tried to lift yours, you would have gotten angry and told them how stupid they are and how THEY were the ones being brainwashed like THEY were in some kind of cult.

    Just be kind. Understand why they feel the way they do. And give them more information. Youtube has done more for Ron Paul and the liberty movement than anything you will ever see on TV. You should also encourage them to watch C-Span whenever Paul is speaking because the commentary on his thoughts is low and it allows the viewer to really make their own decisions. Eventually, when their own thoughts conflict with what they're seeing on cable news, you will know the opportunity to remove the blindfold is opening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rblgenius View Post
    Welcome, I was in the same crowd as you. I was more of a liberal than most neo-cons but I was all for going to war to "get em turrists".

    You become so much less apathetic when you hear the truth. Its intoxicating because its the message our nation fought and was founded on.
    you read my mind...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    It's pretty amazing once their blindfold has been lifted, eh?

    Your job now is to help others lift their blindfolds as well. It's not easy. As you know, if someone would have tried to lift yours, you would have gotten angry and told them how stupid they are and how THEY were the ones being brainwashed like THEY were in some kind of cult.

    Just be kind. Understand why they feel the way they do. And give them more information. Youtube has done more for Ron Paul and the liberty movement than anything you will ever see on TV. You should also encourage them to watch C-Span whenever Paul is speaking because the commentary on his thoughts is low and it allows the viewer to really make their own decisions. Eventually, when their own thoughts conflict with what they're seeing on cable news, you will know the opportunity to remove the blindfold is opening.
    ^^THIS^^
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    Most people that you would label neocons don't consider themselves as such. They most likely don't even know what neo-conservatism is. Look at Herman Cain. He was running for President and he didn't even know. Most people just think that neo-conservatism is conservatism. They don't even know there's a difference.

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    I can vouch for that, none of us would have considered themselves neocon, but it really is that because of the adamant brain washing that really does take place..

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    Welcome..yeah, once you wake up you can see the propaganda immediately and you aren't stuck in the false left right paradigm anymore. Not down with those false games anymore. They are just there for the sheep to be led by the psychopath controllers.

    When Ron Paul speaks at debates, you see the other candidates staring at him with the look that says "He's not playing our game, he knows the corrupt system and he calls it like it is...which I could never do. It's amazing he can have so much support while taking controversial positions."
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    Okay, guys. This kind of thread makes it obvious that a commercial talking about the SCALES FALLING OFF is mandatory for the campaign.

    Ron Paulism is a world-view that requires open eyes, hearts, and minds, free of MEDIA BIAS. It's our duty to wake them.


    P.S. It seems that some of the work is actually being done by Newt Gingrich. But he still plays the two-party false paradigm game. We know he is mistaken.
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    Welcome to the Revolution. Morpheus would be proud you chose the red pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Zak View Post
    Beat me to it! It's so true.
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    I once was blind,
    but now can see...

    Welcome aboard.
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    Tin Foil Hats, Economic Reality and the Total Perspective Vortex

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    "neoconservatism" motivates voters with fear....MUSLIMS! TERRORISTS! NUKES! COMMIES! LIBERALS! HILLARY! MEXICANS! QUEERS! 911! DIRTY BOMBS!
    traditional conservatives (such as Dr.Paul) motivates voters with reason, common sense, civics, and history.
    It's an uphill battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    "neoconservatism" motivates voters with fear....MUSLIMS! TERRORISTS! NUKES! COMMIES! LIBERALS! HILLARY! MEXICANS! QUEERS! 911! DIRTY BOMBS!
    traditional conservatives (such as Dr.Paul) motivates voters with reason, common sense, civics, and history.
    It's an uphill battle.
    Oh man is it an uphill battle.

    The fear card hits the most primal of our emotions. The fear of outsiders, foreigners, civilization collapse, culture collapse, chaos, disorder, death....it hits these people on a tribal level, like it's our tribe vs theirs. Back in the day you had to fall in line to fend off the outsiders who want to come in, take the women, and destroy you. That passed down through the generations like a chicken born to fear a hawk overhead where you don't even logically think about the threat but it's an instant panic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazeKing View Post
    it's our tribe vs theirs.

    QFT. "us versus THEM" is, and has ALWAYS been, the single greatest motivation in the history of mankind. It is THE MOST sickeningly effective way to gain compliance from any population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    "neoconservatism" motivates voters with fear....MUSLIMS! TERRORISTS! NUKES! COMMIES! LIBERALS! HILLARY! MEXICANS! QUEERS! 911! DIRTY BOMBS!
    traditional conservatives (such as Dr.Paul) motivates voters with reason, common sense, civics, and history.
    It's an uphill battle.
    Like I always say. Neo-cons need enemies to stay in power, Liberals need victims.

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