Again...Please get rid of INFLATION TAX from Tea Party site

[Shaun]

Guys:
Let's get to the marketing basics here, but before we do that just remember that it DOES NOT matter what's up there in terms of the fund raise. We would raise 10,000,000 if the First sentence was **** YOU FRANK..( which I would personally love to see..) and the off-line media would pick it up as a protest donation against the MSM polls...
So, in terms of the cash, relax, we are going to get the 10m. Assuming no earthquakes, nuclear explosions, 9/11 type events or the demise of our champion, we'll get the 10m. It's a math equation, so just all focus in on telling three new people a day about RP who have INFLUENCE over others and geometric growth is now kicking in..no sweat there. All that said..if you guys do want to improve the site I would suggest the following..

1) Aim the first paragraph at NEW people not the insiders (all of us let's say..) and make certain that there is nothing, not a single word (I mean it ) that they can't understand, they must understand every word on the page, if they don't you'll have them in confusion and the MESSAGE of RP may not transfer from them to another. That's the danger of having a term like "inflation tax.." up there, it's not that it will stop THAT person donating, it's that it may slow the "word of mouse" or "word of mouth" P2P transfer that we are looking for.

2) As a solution to the problem set outlined in 1) above I would suggest that an earlier post has the answer...I would mention an " oppressive tax " and a " poorly executed war " this way you will capture some conservatives who can all agree that a) Taxes are oppressive and b) the war was poorly executed.

The above modifications would be my recommendation. But, all in all, the site is 103% already in my book. 30k people will pledge, double or more of that number will donate and Ron Paul will be the greatest political rock-star of our time. Just keep him alive guys. No joke, he's a target for the ne0-cons.

[Energy]

Guys:
Let's get to the marketing basics here, but before we do that just remember that it DOES NOT matter what's up there in terms of the fund raise. We would raise 10,000,000 if the First sentence was **** YOU FRANK..( which I would personally love to see..) and the off-line media would pick it up as a protest donation against the MSM polls...
So, in terms of the cash, relax, we are going to get the 10m. Assuming no earthquakes, nuclear explosions, 9/11 type events or the demise of our champion, we'll get the 10m. It's a math equation, so just all focus in on telling three new people a day about RP who have INFLUENCE over others and geometric growth is now kicking in..no sweat there. All that said..if you guys do want to improve the site I would suggest the following..

1) Aim the first paragraph at NEW people not the insiders (all of us let's say..) and make certain that there is nothing, not a single word (I mean it ) that they can't understand, they must understand every word on the page, if they don't you'll have them in confusion and the MESSAGE of RP may not transfer from them to another. That's the danger of having a term like "inflation tax.." up there, it's not that it will stop THAT person donating, it's that it may slow the "word of mouse" or "word of mouth" P2P transfer that we are looking for.

2) As a solution to the problem set outlined in 1) above I would suggest that an earlier post has the answer...I would mention an " oppressive tax " and a " poorly executed war " this way you will capture some conservatives who can all agree that a) Taxes are oppressive and b) the war was poorly executed.

The above modifications would be my recommendation. But, all in all, the site is 103% already in my book. 30k people will pledge, double or more of that number will donate and Ron Paul will be the greatest political rock-star of our time. Just keep him alive guys. No joke, he's a target for the ne0-cons.

Absolutely.

It's a cakewalk, a slam dunk to get current Ron Paul supporters signed up. They're sold already; no need to pitch them anything.

But for the new people, the page needs to address them in THEIR language, address THEIR concerns, not ours. Or paint the picture of the "endless immensity of the sea" that is our revolution, in a way that relates to their dissatisfactions that they may be blissfully unaware of (war/occupation, exploitation of currency, whittling of liberty, over-bearing government). OTHERWISE, it's wasted opportunity to enlighten and excite new people as to why Ron Paul is our nation's answer.

Stir up their frustrations and present the solution. It is basic marketing and copywriting. I wrote a sample up above.

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"If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery

[livinglegend]

Guys:
1) Aim the first paragraph at NEW people not the insiders (all of us let's say..) and make certain that there is nothing, not a single word (I mean it ) that they can't understand, they must understand every word on the page, if they don't you'll have them in confusion and the MESSAGE of RP may not transfer from them to another. That's the danger of having a term like "inflation tax.." up there, it's not that it will stop THAT person donating, it's that it may slow the "word of mouse" or "word of mouth" P2P transfer that we are looking for.

2) As a solution to the problem set outlined in 1) above I would suggest that an earlier post has the answer...I would mention an " oppressive tax " and a " poorly executed war " this way you will capture some conservatives who can all agree that a) Taxes are oppressive and b) the war was poorly executed.

I agree 100%

I say change the page so it is easier to grasp for the uninitiated general public.

[Drknows]

I agree with max- an anti war message would get more attention and huge money

I must say i kinda of agree with this statement. But Tea party doesn't fit the theme.

I feel we have some disconnect here. Maybe we do need two different sites for the same day, One anti tax and the other anti war. I don't know......frustrated

We have to make this day our own i agree. The sons of liberty made that day their own we should do the same.

But we need to push this date no matter what the cause. Plus send massive amounts of traffic to the sites.

Who owns http://thisdecember16th.com/ ? btw?

[SeanEdwards]

so is voting against pork barrel spending.....so is being opposed to high tarriffs...


but to the public its BORING..

Uh, no. It's totally not boring, and particularly right now when stock market traders are on TV cheering Ron when he grills the Fed chief about inflation. Everyone in the media is flipping out about the economy right now and we should be hammering on Paul's outstanding wisdom and clarity on economic policy.

You think people's money is a boring subject to them? Monetary policy could end up being a bigger issue than war in this election.

[Drknows]

Uh, no. It's totally not boring, and particularly right now when stock market traders are on TV cheering Ron when he grills the Fed chief about inflation. Everyone in the media is flipping out about the economy right now and we should be hammering on Paul's outstanding wisdom and clarity on economic policy.

You think people's money is a boring subject to them? Monetary policy could end up being a bigger issue than war in this election.

I agree with this too because our money is directly connected with over seas spending and the wars.

[SeanEdwards]

I agree with this too because our money is directly connected with over seas spending and the wars.

I suspect there's a hell of a lot of people that don't care strongly about the war one way or the other. They don't feel pain from it directly, so they don't have urgency about the issue.

Go to those same people and tell them 50% of their 401K is about to evaporate and they'll be in the streets with pitchforks and torches.

[RonPaulGetsIt]

I must say i kinda of agree with this statement. But Tea party doesn't fit the theme.

I feel we have some disconnect here. Maybe we do need two different sites for the same day, One anti tax and the other anti war. I don't know......frustrated

We have to make this day our own i agree. The sons of liberty made that day their own we should do the same.

But we need to push this date no matter what the cause. Plus send massive amounts of traffic to the sites.

Who owns http://thisdecember16th.com/ ? btw?

The goal is to raise money for Dr. Paul. I see no problem with having another site with an antiwar theme. This would allow the media to report that Ron Paul had a massive fundrasising day with the dual themes of rebellion against taxation and an unjust war.

[SwordOfShannarah]

From my view point first and foremost I find the original post/tone of this thread totally disgregards the poll we took here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=34716

At the time of the post the poll was 50/50 and even now it's still pretty much the same.. so what gives anyone the right to demand anything? As a group we're split on the issue. Lets start respecting that other people have their opinions and no matter how important this is to you it is also important to them.

As a compromise (and from someones suggestion) I have made the text "inflation tax" link to an article about it which is written by Ron Paul. Now the answer is there if anyone wants to learn about it or is curious and the visitor gets to hear the definition from Ron Paul himself. For me this settles the argument. The poll was split and now a major detraction / reason for no votes has been addressed.

[James R]

I agree that people are simply over-concerned about it. But I think maybe they really don't mean what they are saying. I think what they are trying to say is that they want to expand to include other taxes as well. But what they don't realize is that eliminating the income tax does not really have mass appeal. People are so accustomed to the income tax they think it is a necessary evil. You could add a general message about heavy federal taxes and I think that would improve the message a little bit.