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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    In the end it might be good for the Iranians, if they can oust their dictator.
    And the new government will hate us even more than the current one does.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    And the new government will hate us even more than the current one does.
    Possibly. But I hope the Iranian people do get a chance to make that choice one way or another.

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    Our involvement will create enough hatred that their new government might try to use a nuclear weapon against us or give it to Al-Qaeda to use it for them. If we left them alone they would eventually overthrow their government and have no reason to hate us. We are just bringing about more blowback, maybe worse blowback than ever before. We just can't mind our own $#@!ing business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    Possibly. But I hope the Iranian people do get a chance to make that choice one way or another.
    They already made a choice, and they chose Ahmadinejad.
    A tyrant and the one who helps an oppressor as well as the one who is pleased with such injustice all the three are accomplices in the sin–Muhammad al-Baqir

    You the [dwellers] of the West, should know that the world of God is not a shop (of yours). Your imagined pure gold is about to lose it standard value (as fixed by you). Your civilization will commit suicide with its own daggers. For a house built on a fragile bark of wood is not long-lasting.-Iqbal 1908

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExPatPaki View Post
    They already made a choice, and they chose Ahmadinejad.
    Imadinnerjacket is having Obamaesque problems of his own in terms of Voter's Remorse and going beyond the bounds of the Iranian constitution. His recent firing of three cabinet ministers (oil, welfare and mines) without permission from Parliament, which he constantly defies, as well as defiance of Ali Khamenei and loyalists, has gotten him into a lot of hot water with a lot of Iranians. He's now spoiling every bit as much for a fight, as political cover, as Obama, given, I believe, the protections Presidents and other political wartime scoundrels often enjoy.

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    sanctions are probably damaging Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Douglas View Post
    Imadinnerjacket is having Obamaesque problems of his own in terms of Voter's Remorse and going beyond the bounds of the Iranian constitution. His recent firing of three cabinet ministers (oil, welfare and mines) without permission from Parliament, which he constantly defies, as well as defiance of Ali Khamenei and loyalists, has gotten him into a lot of hot water with a lot of Iranians. He's now spoiling every bit as much for a fight, as political cover, as Obama, given, I believe, the protections Presidents and other political wartime scoundrels often enjoy.
    Yea, and that's why he wants the 12th Imam to return so badly because according to Shia tradition, the 12th Imam will first kill off all the corrupt religious leaders such as Khamanei.

    Anyone who wants real regime change in Iran should start praying to Allah for the return of the 12th Imam.
    A tyrant and the one who helps an oppressor as well as the one who is pleased with such injustice all the three are accomplices in the sin–Muhammad al-Baqir

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    You noobs haven't heard that Gazprombank of Russia and other Banks in China are going to act as clearing houses for capital flows limited by sanctions. Iran is fine, there will be no Persian Spring there as of yet....didn't they just go through one of those with the last election cycle...and they didn't fall apart.
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    The last election cycle's "protests" was for one candidate who would also serve under Khamanei. It had nothing to do with the removal of the clerical system. In fact, many so-called moderate clerics were part of the protests.
    A tyrant and the one who helps an oppressor as well as the one who is pleased with such injustice all the three are accomplices in the sin–Muhammad al-Baqir

    You the [dwellers] of the West, should know that the world of God is not a shop (of yours). Your imagined pure gold is about to lose it standard value (as fixed by you). Your civilization will commit suicide with its own daggers. For a house built on a fragile bark of wood is not long-lasting.-Iqbal 1908

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExPatPaki View Post
    The last election cycle's "protests" was for one candidate who would also serve under Khamanei. It had nothing to do with the removal of the clerical system. In fact, many so-called moderate clerics were part of the protests.
    Point being they avoided regime change being pushed by MI5/CIA, at the time, that were actually bringing in protestors from the UK, with UK passports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybags View Post
    Apparently the spread between central bank quote and on the street exchange is the biggest in history and the the elite in Iran are able to pocket the difference. Obviously the man on the street is getting whacked with inflation and like Egypt when you cannot eat you hit the streets. Probably only weeks away from seeing Iran looking like Syria. Then of course our duty to help the people will be thrust onto FAUX news and a coalition of the willing will be formed.
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    I really like that Jesus guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And the money-changers make more money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roderik View Post
    Iranians are not Arabs, goddammit.
    They're Persians...The descendants of the Cradle of Civilization.

    I wonder how many Joe Six Packs who favor war with them are aware of this fact.

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    "One of the things that came out of the wikleaks embassy cables was this gem:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/sec...and-buying-mor
    "Market observers believe Tehran has been one of the biggest buyers of bullion over the past decade after China, Russia and India, and is among the 20 largest holders of gold reserves... with an alleged 300 tons, big enough to challenge the UK at 310 tons, and more than Spain! "

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    Say...I heard Libya had boocoo gold, too.

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    Maybe Iran should think about switching to Bitcoin which seems to be gaining value again, just broke $7 again..
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    They'd be bombed ALMOST as quickly as a gold backed oil trade.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazek View Post
    Maybe Iran should think about switching to Bitcoin which seems to be gaining value again, just broke $7 again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgadget View Post
    They're Persians...The descendants of the Cradle of Civilization.

    I wonder how many Joe Six Packs who favor war with them are aware of this fact.
    Not very many, IMO. I've only come across one or two war-mongers who are aware of this.
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    As expected, the Russians are coming to the rescue.
    Iran, Russia Replace Dollar with National Currencies in Trade Exchanges
    TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran and Russia have replaced US Dollar with their own currencies in their trade ties, a senior Iranian diplomat announced on Saturday.
    Speaking to FNA, Tehran's Ambassador to Moscow Seyed Reza Sajjadi said that the proposal for replacing US Dollar with Ruble and Rial was raised by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in a meeting with his Iranian counterpart Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Astana on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) meeting.
    "Since then, we have acted on this basis and a part of our interactions is done in Ruble now," Sajjadi stated, adding that many Iranian traders are using Ruble for their trade deals.
    "There is a similar interest in the Russian side," the envoy stated, adding that that Moscow is against unilateral sanctions on Iran outside the UN Security Council, specially the recent sanctions against Iran's Central Bank (CBI).
    "The move (imposing sanction on the CBI) is unacceptable. Russians have clearly announced that they will not accept these sanctions and Iran's nuclear issue is resolvable just through negotiations."
    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad hit back at the US after Washington introduced new sanctions against Iran's central bank.
    President Ahmadinejad told an annual meeting of senior central bank officials that Iran's central bank would respond with "force" to the new US sanctions intended to pressure Tehran to abandon its nuclear program.
    He said the bank was strong enough to defeat "enemy plans".

    The sanctions - which cut off from the US financial system foreign firms that do business with the central bank - are part of a defense bill signed by President Barack Obama earlier this month
    The extra US sanctions aim to squeeze Iran's oil sales, most of which are processed by the central bank, although many even in the West believe that the move would prove futile.
    During the last two years, Iran has been replacing dollar with other currencies in its trade with the outside world.
    Iran has replaced dollar in its oil trade with India, China and Japan. Late in November, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) issued the needed permission to the Central Bank of Iran to open rupee accounts with two Indian banks, namely UCO and IDBI, as a long-lasting solution to the two countries' payment problems.
    Both accounts were opened in the respective banks' Mumbai branches.
    A top official of city-based UCO Bank said while payments for his country's oil imports would initially be in rupees, it would be then converted into a separate currency, which was yet to be decided by the apex bank.
    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007275648

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    Good, there's still a bit of hope we might get through this without a war..
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    And if US Citizens could behave like Iran and Russia, replacing the dollar as an exchange currency between themselves, we might just get out of this without a civil war.

    I don't think it's a minor thing that Obama reveres Civil War Mongering, Greenback creating/worshiping Abraham Lincoln as his number one exemplar of Presidents to follow, as a man who will do whatever it takes to keep the union at war with itself together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    By the way,

    Irans currency is now in the rhealm of hyperinflation if this keeps up. FACT.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/hyperinflation-comes-iran

    Looks like I was right.

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    Yep, I hoped the bilateral trade in national currencies between Russia and Iran might stop that but I guess not. War is all but certain now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaAvenger View Post
    In the end it might be good for the Iranians, if they can oust their dictator.
    You know Iran is no more a dictator than the U.S. is right? You know that Amadenijad holds no real power in Iran right? You know that the mullahs are elected by popular vote, and that vote was leaning toward the reformers until we started saber rattling right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    You know Iran is no more a dictator than the U.S. is right? You know that Amadenijad holds no real power in Iran right? You know that the mullahs are elected by popular vote, and that vote was leaning toward the reformers until we started saber rattling right?
    GeorgiaAvenger doesn't know jack $#@! about anything.
    A tyrant and the one who helps an oppressor as well as the one who is pleased with such injustice all the three are accomplices in the sin–Muhammad al-Baqir

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    The Myth of “Isolated” Iran

    Following the money in the Iran crisis
    by Pepe Escobar


    Let’s start with red lines. Here it is, Washington’s ultimate red line, straight from the lion’s mouth. Only last week Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said of the Iranians, “Are they trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No. But we know that they’re trying to develop a nuclear capability. And that’s what concerns us. And our red line to Iran is do not develop a nuclear weapon. That’s a red line for us.”

    How strange, the way those red lines continue to retreat. Once upon a time, the red line for Washington was “enrichment” of uranium. Now, it’s evidently an actual nuclear weapon that can be brandished. Keep in mind that, since 2005, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei has stressed that his country is not seeking to build a nuclear weapon. The most recent National Intelligence Estimate on Iran from the U.S. intelligence community has similarly stressed that Iran is not, in fact, developing a nuclear weapon (as opposed to the breakout capacity to build one someday).

    What if, however, there is no “red line,” but something completely different? Call it the petrodollar line.

    Banking on Sanctions?

    Let’s start here: In December 2011, impervious to dire consequences for the global economy, the U.S. Congress — under all the usual pressures from the Israel lobby (not that it needs them) — foisted a mandatory sanctions package on the Obama administration (100 to 0 in the Senate and with only 12 “no” votes in the House). Starting in June, the U.S. will have to sanction any third-country banks and companies dealing with Iran’s Central Bank, which is meant to cripple that country’s oil sales. (Congress did allow for some “exemptions.”)

    The ultimate target? Regime change — what else? — in Tehran. The proverbial anonymous U.S. official admitted as much in the Washington Post, and that paper printed the comment. (“The goal of the U.S. and other sanctions against Iran is regime collapse, a senior U.S. intelligence official said, offering the clearest indication yet that the Obama administration is at least as intent on unseating Iran’s government as it is on engaging with it.”) But oops! The newspaper then had to revise the passage to eliminate that embarrassingly on-target quote. Undoubtedly, this “red line” came too close to the truth for comfort.

    Former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen believed that only a monster shock-and-awe-style event, totally humiliating the leadership in Tehran, would lead to genuine regime change — and he was hardly alone. Advocates of actions ranging from airstrikes to invasion (whether by the U.S., Israel, or some combination of the two) have been legion in neocon Washington. (See, for instance, the Brookings Institution’s 2009 report Which Path to Persia.)

    Yet anyone remotely familiar with Iran knows that such an attack would rally the population behind Khamenei and the Revolutionary Guards. In those circumstances, the deep aversion of many Iranians to the military dictatorship of the mullahtariat would matter little.

    Besides, even the Iranian opposition supports a peaceful nuclear program. It’s a matter of national pride.

    Iranian intellectuals, far more familiar with Persian smoke and mirrors than ideologues in Washington, totally debunk any war scenarios. They stress that the Tehran regime, adept in the arts of Persian shadow play, has no intention of provoking an attack that could lead to its obliteration. On their part, whether correctly or not, Tehran strategists assume that Washington will prove unable to launch yet one more war in the Greater Middle East, especially one that could lead to staggering collateral damage for the world economy.

    In the meantime, Washington’s expectations that a harsh sanctions regime might make the Iranians give ground, if not go down, may prove to be a chimera. Washington spin has been focused on the supposedly disastrous mega-devaluation of the Iranian currency, the rial, in the face of the new sanctions. Unfortunately for the fans of Iranian economic collapse, Professor Djavad Salehi-Isfahani has laid out in elaborate detail the long-term nature of this process, which Iranian economists have more than welcomed. After all, it will boost Iran’s non-oil exports and help local industry in competition with cheap Chinese imports. In sum: a devalued rial stands a reasonable chance of actually reducing unemployment in Iran.

    More Connected Than Google

    Though few in the U.S. have noticed, Iran is not exactly “isolated,” though Washington might wish it. Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Gilani has become a frequent flyer to Tehran. And he’s a Johnny-come-lately compared to Russia’s national security chief, Nikolai Patrushev, who only recently warned the Israelis not to push the U.S. to attack Iran. Add in as well U.S. ally and Afghan President Hamid Karzai. At a loya jirga (grand council) in late 2011, in front of 2,000 tribal leaders, he stressed that Kabul was planning to get even closer to Tehran.

    On that crucial Eurasian chessboard, Pipelineistan, the Iran-Pakistan (IP) natural gas pipeline — much to Washington’s distress — is now a go. Pakistan badly needs energy, and its leadership has clearly decided that it’s unwilling to wait forever and a day for Washington’s eternal pet project — the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) pipeline — to traverse Talibanistan.

    Even Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu recently visited Tehran, though his country’s relationship with Iran has grown ever edgier. After all, energy overrules threats in the region. NATO member Turkey is already involved in covert ops in Syria, allied with hardcore fundamentalist Sunnis in Iraq, and — in a remarkable volte-face in the wake of the Arab Spring(s) — has traded in an Ankara-Tehran-Damascus axis for an Ankara-Riyadh-Doha one. It is even planning on hosting components of Washington’s long-planned missile defense system, targeted at Iran.

    All this from a country with a Davutoglu-coined foreign policy of “zero problems with our neighbors.” Still, the needs of Pipelineistan do set the heart racing. Turkey is desperate for access to Iran’s energy resources, and if Iranian natural gas ever reaches Western Europe — something the Europeans are desperately eager for — Turkey will be the privileged transit country. Turkey’s leaders have already signaled their rejection of further U.S. sanctions against Iranian oil.

    And speaking of connections, last week there was that spectacular diplomatic coup de théâtre, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s Latin American tour. U.S. right-wingers may harp on a Tehran-Caracas axis of evil — supposedly promoting “terror” across Latin America as a springboard for future attacks on the northern superpower — but back in real life, another kind of truth lurks. All these years later, Washington is still unable to digest the idea that it has lost control of, or even influence in, those two regional powers over which it once exercised unmitigated imperial hegemony.

    Add to this the wall of mistrust that has only solidified since the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran. Mix in a new, mostly sovereign Latin America pushing for integration not only via left-wing governments in Venezuela, Bolivia, and Ecuador but through regional powers Brazil and Argentina. Stir and you get photo ops like Ahmadinejad and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez saluting Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega.

    Washington continues to push a vision of a world from which Iran has been radically disconnected. State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland is typical in saying recently, “Iran can remain in international isolation.” As it happens, though, she needs to get her facts straight.

    “Isolated” Iran has $4 billion in joint projects with Venezuela, including, crucially, a bank (as with Ecuador, it has dozens of planned projects from building power plants to, once again, banking). That has led the Israel-first crowd in Washington to vociferously demand that sanctions be slapped on Venezuela. Only problem: How would the U.S. pay for its crucial Venezuelan oil imports then?

    Much was made in the U.S. press of the fact that Ahmadinejad did not visit Brazil on this jaunt through Latin America, but diplomatically Tehran and Brasilia remain in sync. When it comes to the nuclear dossier in particular, Brazil’s history leaves its leaders sympathetic. After all, that country developed — and then dropped — a nuclear weapons program. In May 2010, Brazil and Turkey brokered a uranium-swap agreement for Iran that might have cleared the decks on the U.S.-Iranian nuclear imbroglio. It was, however, immediately sabotaged by Washington. A key member of the BRICS, the club of top emerging economies, Brasilia is completely opposed to the U.S. sanctions/embargo strategy.

    So Iran may be “isolated” from the United States and Western Europe, but from the BRICS to NAM (the 120 member countries of the Non-Aligned Movement), it has the majority of the global South on its side. And then, of course, there are those staunch Washington allies, Japan and South Korea, now pleading for exemptions from the coming boycott/embargo of Iran’s Central Bank.

    No wonder, because these unilateral U.S. sanctions are also aimed at Asia. After all, China, India, Japan, and South Korea, together, buy no less than 62% of Iran’s oil exports.

    With trademark Asian politesse, Japan’s Finance Minister Jun Azumi let Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner know just what a problem Washington is creating for Tokyo, which relies on Iran for 10% of its oil needs. It is pledging to at least modestly “reduce” that share “as soon as possible” in order to get a Washington exemption from those sanctions, but don’t hold your breath. South Korea has already announced that it will buy 10% of its oil needs from Iran in 2012.

    Silk Road Redux

    Most important of all, “isolated” Iran happens to be a supreme matter of national security for China, which has already rejected the latest Washington sanctions without a blink. Westerners seem to forget that the Middle Kingdom and Persia have been doing business for almost two millennia. (Does “Silk Road” ring a bell?)

    The Chinese have already clinched a juicy deal for the development of Iran’s largest oil field, Yadavaran. There’s also the matter of the delivery of Caspian Sea oil from Iran through a pipeline stretching from Kazakhstan to Western China. In fact, Iran already supplies no less than 15% of China’s oil and natural gas. It is now more crucial to China, energy-wise, than the House of Saud is to the U.S., which imports 11% of its oil from Saudi Arabia.

    In fact, China may be the true winner from Washington’s new sanctions, because it is likely to get its oil and gas at a lower price as the Iranians grow ever more dependent on the China market. At this moment, in fact, the two countries are in the middle of a complex negotiation on the pricing of Iranian oil, and the Chinese have actually been ratcheting up the pressure by slightly cutting back on energy purchases. But all this should be concluded by March, at least two months before the latest round of U.S. sanctions go into effect, according to experts in Beijing. In the end, the Chinese will certainly buy much more Iranian gas than oil, but Iran will still remain its third biggest oil supplier, right after Saudi Arabia and Angola.

    As for other effects of the new sanctions on China, don’t count on them. Chinese businesses in Iran are building cars, fiber optics networks, and expanding the Tehran subway. Two-way trade is at $30 billion now and expected to hit $50 billion in 2015. Chinese businesses will find a way around the banking problems the new sanctions impose.

    Russia is, of course, another key supporter of “isolated” Iran. It has opposed stronger sanctions either via the U.N. or through the Washington-approved package that targets Iran’s Central Bank. In fact, it favors a rollback of the existing U.N. sanctions and has also been at work on an alternative plan that could, at least theoretically, lead to a face-saving nuclear deal for everyone.

    On the nuclear front, Tehran has expressed a willingness to compromise with Washington along the lines of the plan Brazil and Turkey suggested and Washington deep-sixed in 2010. Since it is now so much clearer that, for Washington — certainly for Congress — the nuclear issue is secondary to regime change, any new negotiations are bound to prove excruciatingly painful.

    This is especially true now that the leaders of the European Union have managed to remove themselves from a future negotiating table by shooting themselves in their Ferragamo-clad feet. In typical fashion, they have meekly followed Washington’s lead in implementing an Iranian oil embargo. As a senior EU official told National Iranian American Council President Trita Parsi, and as EU diplomats have assured me in no uncertain terms, they fear this might prove to be the last step short of outright war.

    Meanwhile, a team of International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors has just visited Iran. The IAEA is supervising all things nuclear in Iran, including its new uranium-enrichment plant at Fordow, near the holy city of Qom, with full production starting in June. The IAEA is positive: no bomb-making is involved. Nonetheless, Washington (and the Israelis) continue to act as though it’s only a matter of time — and not much of it at that.

    Follow the Money

    That Iranian isolation theme only gets weaker when one learns that the country is dumping the dollar in its trade with Russia for rials and rubles — a similar move to ones already made in its trade with China and Japan. As for India, an economic powerhouse in the neighborhood, its leaders also refuse to stop buying Iranian oil, a trade that, in the long run, is similarly unlikely to be conducted in dollars. India is already using the yuan with China, as Russia and China have been trading in rubles and yuan for more than a year, as Japan and China are promoting direct trading in yen and yuan. As for Iran and China, all new trade and joint investments will be settled in yuan and rial.

    Translation, if any was needed: in the near future, with the Europeans out of the mix, virtually none of Iran’s oil will be traded in dollars.

    Moreover, three BRICS members (Russia, India, and China) allied with Iran are major holders (and producers) of gold. Their complex trade ties won’t be affected by the whims of a U.S. Congress. In fact, when the developing world looks at the profound crisis in the Atlanticist West, what they see is massive U.S. debt, the Fed printing money as if there’s no tomorrow, lots of “quantitative easing,” and of course the Eurozone shaking to its very foundations.

    Follow the money. Leave aside, for the moment, the new sanctions on Iran’s Central Bank that will go into effect months from now, ignore Iranian threats to close the Strait of Hormuz (especially unlikely given that it’s the main way Iran gets its own oil to market), and perhaps one key reason the crisis in the Persian Gulf is mounting involves this move to torpedo the petrodollar as the all-purpose currency of exchange.

    It’s been spearheaded by Iran and it’s bound to translate into an anxious Washington, facing down not only a regional power, but its major strategic competitors China and Russia. No wonder all those carriers are heading for the Persian Gulf right now, though it’s the strangest of showdowns — a case of military power being deployed against economic power.

    In this context, it’s worth remembering that in September 2000 Saddam Hussein abandoned the petrodollar as the currency of payment for Iraq’s oil, and moved to the euro. In March 2003, Iraq was invaded and the inevitable regime change occurred. Libya’s Muammar Gadhafi proposed a gold dinar both as Africa’s common currency and as the currency of payment for his country’s energy resources. Another intervention and another regime change followed.

    Washington/NATO/Tel Aviv, however, offers a different narrative. Iran’s “threats” are at the heart of the present crisis, even if these are, in fact, that country’s reaction to non-stop U.S./Israeli covert war and now, of course, economic war as well. It’s those “threats,” so the story goes, that are leading to rising oil prices and so fueling the current recession, rather than Wall Street’s casino capitalism or massive U.S. and European debts. The cream of the 1% has nothing against high oil prices, not as long as Iran’s around to be the fall guy for popular anger.

    As energy expert Michael Klare pointed out recently, we are now in a new geo-energy era certain to be extremely turbulent in the Persian Gulf and elsewhere. But consider 2012 the start-up year as well for a possibly massive defection from the dollar as the global currency of choice. As perception is indeed reality, imagine the real world — mostly the global South — doing the necessary math and, little by little, beginning to do business in their own currencies and investing ever less of any surplus in U.S. Treasury bonds.

    Of course, the U.S. can always count on the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) — Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates — which I prefer to call the Gulf Counterrevolution Club (just look at their performances during the Arab Spring). For all practical geopolitical purposes, the Gulf monarchies are a U.S. satrapy. Their decades-old promise to use only the petrodollar translates into them being an appendage of Pentagon power projection across the Middle East. CENTCOM, after all, is based in Qatar; the U.S. Fifth Fleet is stationed in Bahrain. In fact, in the immensely energy-wealthy lands that we could label Greater Pipelineistan — and that the Pentagon used to call “the arc of instability” — extending through Iran all the way to Central Asia, the GCC remains key to a dwindling sense of U.S. hegemony.

    If this were an economic rewrite of Edgar Allen Poe’s story “The Pit and the Pendulum,” Iran would be but one cog in an infernal machine slowly shredding the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. Still, it’s the cog that Washington is now focused on. They have regime change on the brain. All that’s needed is a spark to start the fire (in — one hastens to add — all sorts of directions that are bound to catch Washington off guard).

    Remember Operation Northwoods, that 1962 plan drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to stage terror operations in the U.S. and blame them on Fidel Castro’s Cuba. (President Kennedy shot the idea down.) Or recall the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964, used by President Lyndon Johnson as a justification for widening the Vietnam War. The U.S. accused North Vietnamese torpedo boats of unprovoked attacks on U.S. ships. Later, it became clear that one of the attacks had never even happened and the president had lied about it.

    It’s not at all far-fetched to imagine hardcore Full-Spectrum-Dominance practitioners inside the Pentagon riding a false-flag incident in the Persian Gulf to an attack on Iran (or simply using it to pressure Tehran into a fatal miscalculation). Consider as well the new U.S. military strategy just unveiled by President Obama in which the focus of Washington’s attention is to move from two failed ground wars in the Greater Middle East to the Pacific (and so to China). Iran happens to be right in the middle, in Southwest Asia, with all that oil heading toward an energy-hungry modern Middle Kingdom over waters guarded by the U.S. Navy.

    So yes, this larger-than-life psychodrama we call “Iran” may turn out to be as much about China and the U.S. dollar as it is about the politics of the Persian Gulf or Iran’s nonexistent bomb. The question is: What rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Beijing to be born?
    A tyrant and the one who helps an oppressor as well as the one who is pleased with such injustice all the three are accomplices in the sin–Muhammad al-Baqir

    You the [dwellers] of the West, should know that the world of God is not a shop (of yours). Your imagined pure gold is about to lose it standard value (as fixed by you). Your civilization will commit suicide with its own daggers. For a house built on a fragile bark of wood is not long-lasting.-Iqbal 1908

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    The price of dollars rose 7 percent from Saturday, the last working day, to 20,500 rials, up 15 percent from last week. It has rallied almost 50 percent from a month ago, according to the financial website Mesghal.

    The rial's slide is likely to exacerbate inflation which is already at 20 percent and rising, as Iran is heavily reliant on imported consumer and intermediate goods whose prices have surged as the rial has depreciated.

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    They are killing the country without bombs, this is already a war they just haven't started shooting each other yet.
    My personality type: INTJ - please forgive my weaknesses (Not naturally in tune with others feelings; may be insensitive at times, tend to respond to conflict with logic and reason, tend to believe I'm always right, tend to be unwilling or unable to accept blame )

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazek View Post
    They are killing the country without bombs, this is already a war they just haven't started shooting each other yet.
    economic terrorism.

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