Dr. confesses Cancer & other Viruses is found in Vaccines

[donnay]

[Zippyjuan]

It is true that some vaccinatations use live viruses for the virus they are intended to fight against. The Sabin vaccine for example was a live virus (though still weakened) for polio. It was administered orally. Dr. Hellerman also helped develop some live vaccines. The Salk vaccine used killed viruses. The video also points out that what he was finding was in the early days of vaccines "This was in the days of very crude science" when little was known (even how vaccines worked was being tested). It also points out that they were trying to learn how to deactivate the other viruses found in vaccines.

An important contribution by Dr. Hillerman to vaccinations (he helped create more vaccines than anybody) was the purification processes. We don't get to hear more of this interview, but he probably was going from describing some of the problems encountered with trying to develop early vaccines to the successes of later ones.


From his obituary in the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/na...2hilleman.html

Dr. Hilleman overcame immunological obstacles to combine vaccines so that one shot could protect against several diseases, like the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella.

He developed about 40 experimental and licensed animal and human vaccines, mostly with his team from Merck of Whitehouse Station, N.J. His role in their development included lab work as well as scientific and administrative leadership. His colleagues said he routinely credited others for their roles in advances.

Vaccine development is complex, requiring an artistry to safely produce large amounts of weakened live or dead micro-organisms. "Maurice was that artist: no one had the green thumb of mass production that he had," Dr. Offit said.

Dr. Hilleman also discovered several viruses and made fundamental discoveries about the way the influenza virus mutates.

Because scientific knowledge about viruses was so limited when he began his career, Dr. Hilleman said that trial and error, sound judgment and luck drove much of his research.

Ron Paul has said that vaccines can offer benefits but people should be free to choose to get them or not. Here hc calls the Polo and Small Pox vaccines "fantastic"- refering to friends who died from them. "If you aren't getting a vaccine, you aren't endangering me, you are endangering yourself" he says here.

[donnay]

SV40 was a live cancer virus!!

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/sv40.htm

[Zippyjuan]

That is correct- it was undetectable in early polio vaccines based on technology available at that time so they did not know it was there. Once they became aware, they took steps to be sure it wasn't in the vaccine any longer. It has not been found in polio vaccines in the US since at least 1963. Some of that batch were used in the USSR and eastern Europe as late as 1980 though.

http://www.virology.ws/2010/04/13/po...-human-cancer/

Deep sequencing – which identified a viral contaminant of the rotavirus vaccine Rotarix - could have revealed the presence of simian virus 40 (SV40) in the poliovirus vaccine, had the technique been available in the 1950s. Exposure of over 100 million Americans to SV40, and many more worldwide, could have been avoided, as well as the debate about the role of this monkey virus in human cancer.

SV40 was discovered by Maurice Hilleman in 1960 as a contaminant of poliovirus vaccine. It was present in batches of both the Salk and Sabin poliovirus vaccines produced and distributed from 1954 to 1963. The source was the rhesus and cynomolgous monkey kidney cells used to produce the vaccine. Even more troubling was the observation that SV40 could cause tumors in hamsters. By 1963 screening procedures were instituted to ensure the absence of SV40 in poliovirus vaccines. Ironically, monkey cells were used for poliovirus vaccine production because it was feared that human cells might contain unknown human cancer viruses.

SV40 does not cause tumors in its natural host – monkeys – because it kills infected cells. However, in the wrong host- such as a hamster – the viral replication cycle is incomplete and virions are not produced. At a very low frequency, pieces of the viral DNA become integrated into the host chromosomal DNA. Problems arise if these viral DNA fragments encode the viral T (tumor) antigen. This protein is essential for lytic replication (which takes place in monkey cells) because it kick-starts cellular DNA synthesis. The cellular DNA synthetic machinery is then co-opted for replication of the viral DNA. When only T antigen is present, the cells divide without stopping – they are transformed, and on the way to becoming a tumor. SV40 does not need to cause tumors as part of its life cycle; they are an aberrant result of having T antigen push the cells to divide. SV40 T antigen can transform human cells, and therefore in theory the virus could cause human tumors.

The results of epidemiological studies initiated in the 1960s through the 1970s, in which thousands of poliovirus vaccine recipients were studied, indicated that this population did not have an increased risk of developing cancer. More recent reports that SV40 viral DNA is present in human tumors have led to a debate on the contribution of this virus to human cancer. Some of the arguments for and against presence of SV40 in human cancers are presented below.

Evidence that SV40 is present in human tumors
■SV40 DNA has been detected in several human tumors, including osteosarcoma, mesothelioma, and non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Similar tumors are induced by the virus in hamsters.
■Poliovirus vaccine produced in 1954 contained a variant of SV40 that can be distinguished from common laboratory strains. This viral variant has been found in three non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma patients

Evidence that SV40 is not present in human tumors
■SV40 DNA is not present in all samples of a cancer, and in some studies of mesotheliomas, it has not been detected in any.
■SV40 viral DNA has been detected in tumors of those who could not have received contaminated poliovirus vaccine.
■In a comparison of mesotheliomas and normal tissues, SV40 DNA has been detected as frequently in both.
■Analysis of the SV40 sequences in mesotheliomas showed that the viral DNA was derived from a laboratory strain which contains a gap that is not present in the wild type viral genome.

Even if SV40 DNA were definitively shown to be present in human tumors, this would not answer the question of whether the virus caused the cancer. The debate on the role of SV40 in human malignancy illustrates the difficulty in establishing cause and effect, and provides ample impetus for using genomic technologies to ensure that vaccines and other biological products are free of adventitious agents.

Garcea, R., & Imperiale, M. (2003). Simian Virus 40 Infection of Humans Journal of Virology, 77 (9), 5039-5045 DOI: 10.1128/JVI.77.9.5039-5045.2003

[Magicman]

That is correct- it was undetectable in early polio vaccines based on technology available at that time so they did not know it was there. Once they became aware, they took steps to be sure it wasn't in the vaccine any longer. It has not been found in polio vaccines in the US since at least 1963. Some of that batch were used in the USSR and eastern Europe as late as 1980 though.

http://www.virology.ws/2010/04/13/po...-human-cancer/

Making the vaccine safe: 1961 In the original vaccine, the SV40 survives, contaminating up to 30 million Americans. But after 1961, African green monkeys are used to grow bulk vaccine and SV40 is eliminated.

You have to wonder how Merck is still around developing vaccines after you find out information like this.

[Magicman]

It is true that some vaccinatations use live viruses for the virus they are intended to fight against. The Sabin vaccine for example was a live virus (though still weakened) for polio. It was administered orally. Dr. Hellerman also helped develop some live vaccines. The Salk vaccine used killed viruses. The video also points out that what he was finding was in the early days of vaccines "This was in the days of very crude science" when little was known (even how vaccines worked was being tested). It also points out that they were trying to learn how to deactivate the other viruses found in vaccines.

An important contribution by Dr. Hillerman to vaccinations (he helped create more vaccines than anybody) was the purification processes. We don't get to hear more of this interview, but he probably was going from describing some of the problems encountered with trying to develop early vaccines to the successes of later ones.


From his obituary in the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/12/na...2hilleman.html




Ron Paul has said that vaccines can offer benefits but people should be free to choose to get them or not. Here hc calls the Polo and Small Pox vaccines "fantastic"- refering to friends who died from them. "If you aren't getting a vaccine, you aren't endangering me, you are endangering yourself" he says here.

Ron Paul has been against putting toxic ingredients in vaccines. I think you need to be more intectually honest on your facts before you say he is pro-vaccine. He is far different then you who defends toxic ingredients in vaccines.

[Shorting]

It's scary, and why I never take immunizations and am fine..

[Septimus]

People not have the awareness about the cancer.
Such types of the thread are really helpful to give the awareness to those people who have not proper informaiton.