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    *** I have a much bigger and better thread than this in the works. I'm thinking about starting a thread that will serve as a way to form a rough draft and to add/polish ideas. I'm considering giving it 2-3 sub threads so that everything will be organized and presentable. I will need alot of help though because I rely on my mobile phone internet even more than when I made this thread a year ago.***


    After a long slow process I have finally finalized my list to the best of my ability. One of my reasons for creating this list is to see what politicians we can support in future elections (for their current office or President, etc) and to see who is actually on our side and who we need to work to remove from office (all politicians not on this list need to be removed from office. Of course we also need to pay attention to those on the list, since they can backstab us at any time. This list is very short and we need to work to grow it in future elections.

    Drum roll please....

    The Senators:

    Out of 100 Senators there are only TWO that we can trust:

    Rand Paul (R-Kentucky)
    Mike Lee (R-Utah).

    The filters were: PATRIOT ACT, The Bailout, TARP, Obamacare, Federal Reserve, the Debt Ceiling vote (08/02/11) and National Defense Authorization Act (vote was December 1st).

    The Representatives:

    Out of 435 members of the House of Representatives there are only THREE that we can trust. They are:

    Ron Paul (R-Texas)
    Justin Amash (R-Michigan)
    Walter Jones (R-North Carolina)

    The filters were: PATRIOT ACT, The Bailout, TARP, Obamacare, Federal Reserve, the Debt Ceiling vote (08/02/11) and National Defense Authorization Act (House voted in May).

    The Governors:

    Out of 50 Governors there are only FOUR that we can trust:

    Robert J. Bentley (R-Ala)
    Butch Otter (R-ID)
    Jack Dalrymple (R-ND)
    Dennis Daugaard (R-SD)


    The filtering for Governors was largely arbitrary, I tried to eliminate them on issues similar to the filters I used on Senators and Representatives and whether they have acted like big government politicians or not.

    Please let me know if you feel this list is incomplete. Please give reasons why said politician should be included or removed.

    P.S. I know the left-right paradigm is a sham, but I find it interesting that ALL are Republicans.
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    Please let me know what you guys think

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    If you add in a non-interventionist foreign policy, Rand and Lee are out, on accord of voting for sanctions on Iran. And, I contend, for being okay with language in the pre-no-fly-zone Libya bill that called for Qaddafi's ouster and material support for undercover and rebel forces there and presumably in other places in Northern Africa/Middle East.

    Putting two and two together from Amash's statements on foreign policy - he's stated that he disagrees with Ron on some aspects, and voiced concerns about how Ron would prevent Iran from getting a nuke - Amash will also vote for the sanctions on Iran.

    That leaves us with Dr. Ronald Earnest Paul. That's it. That's the list.
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    Any opinions about the 5 governors on the list?

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    Didn't Mike Lee vote for the NDAA?

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    Wish I could help you add some people to the list.

    If you are just concerned with fiscal issues, DeMint is usually on our side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    If you add in a non-interventionist foreign policy, Rand and Lee are out, on accord of voting for sanctions on Iran. And, I contend, for being okay with language in the pre-no-fly-zone Libya bill that called for Qaddafi's ouster and material support for undercover and rebel forces there and presumably in other places in Northern Africa/Middle East.

    Putting two and two together from Amash's statements on foreign policy - he's stated that he disagrees with Ron on some aspects, and voiced concerns about how Ron would prevent Iran from getting a nuke - Amash will also vote for the sanctions on Iran.

    That leaves us with Dr. Ronald Earnest Paul. That's it. That's the list.
    Couldnt agree anymore with your post. Mike Lee voted for the National defence authorization act and listening to Rand talk about how suspect terrorist would definitely be found guilty of their crimes just makes me wanna throw up. But if we are going to reduce our standards to the point where Mike Lee is acceptable, then we might as well add Gov Scott Walker for the fight to save Wisconsin tax payersfrom being ripped off by the govt unions

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    While I dont always agree with his politics I do think Dennis Kucinich can be trusted with whatever he says.

    Is this trust, or similar ideologies?

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    Once again, if you are talking fiscal matters, Tom McClintock from California is not the worst...

    "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - Lord Acton
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, and we must reject those who spread fear." - B4L update of FDR
    "The Ministry of Truth can turn on a dime, and the fury of the ignorant masses can be redirected at will." - B4L
    "Marxists become Fascists the minute they become rich, yet they retain the Marxist rhetoric." - B4L
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Thing is, the world is full of a**holes." - ACPTulsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Once again, if you are talking fiscal matters, Tom McClintock from California is not the worst...
    I like the other Californian, Dana Rohrabacher too

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