November 11, Veteran's Day Money Bomb (let's stand united! and get to work!)

[TexMac]

I'm just frustrated with Facebook for moneybombs. There's no way to send everyone reminders, etc. and lots of people have notifications turned off so they don't even get event notifications. I wish we could just push the moneyomb website.

Plus, what happened to Bring them Home for a name? I thought that was agreed already.

[Shane Harris]

save a soldiers life moneybomb. we need to make voters think that if they vote for/donate to ron paul they are saving a soldiers life. maybe even someone close to them who might get drafted to fight one of santorums wars if he were president. i just think its a good meme to get across with all of this. save a soldiers life. vote ron paul.

[greeksta59]

So, is this the official next big money bomb? I like the idea. I LOVE the idea of a veterans day MB. but i just wish the day was a little farther away than BTO. People might not have had enough time to recharge their wallets? Thoughts?

[Chainspell]

Thanks Josh.

Future note: the different sub sections should be able to hold it's own, even if some info needs to be repeated in every section.

Also I like the sound of let's say the voice over saying "for more information on how you can support our troops go to bring our troops home.com"

Or "to support veterans for Ron Paul go to support our troops.com"

Or "let's bring them home go to end the wars.com"

So when you hear it in your head it sounds normal. It doesn't sound weird that the domain is different.

[Birdlady]

The whole point of the website was to stop the bickering between people. So you want us to go back to bickering and not get the moneybomb setup?

Did we read the same thread? My point was that if others are already doing the veteran's day moneybomb, someone else could run with this idea with NO connection to the moneybomb itself. Don't have pledges and redirect traffic to the moneybomb website. Make it a content website that could be run indefinitely up until the primaries/general election... I dunno why you reacted the way you did. Bad day?

My thoughts was spurred by these 2 comments below:

Aleady all done.

http://vetsforpaul.com
http://tinyurl.com/vetsforpaul
http://twitter.com/vetsforpaul

Well, I think that Gage was telling you that he was doing it. And that he and Dusman are working together, and everything is hunky dory.

However, I personally agree that different people can use different URLs to get to different pages in a site. I think that's a good idea, and I think it's something
that dusman and Gage and maybe justinpagewood can work on.

[Chainspell]

Lol could people please stop attacking other supporters. Everybody here means well a little more respect and value in the opinions of others couldn't hurt.

And I say that with love..

[seawolf]

Recommend to all a two-day Veterans Day Money Bomb......BTO proved the success of a second and even a third day.

Remember this Money Bomb will be compared to the others very closely by RP's adversaries because of our efforts to show that Active Duty Members support Ron Paul with their dollars more than any other candidate by far....if this Money Bomb does not live up to expectations they will surely pounce!!!!

A November 11th and November 12th Money Bomb should be considered...... by two cents worth as a Veteran!!!

[kojirodensetsu]

How about a goal of 1.1 million, to go with the 11.11.11 date?

I don't think we really need to have the goal be related to the date. I think we should at least shoot for 2 mil.

[Chainspell]

the website is done we just need to slap in the PHP code and change a bunch of stuff like
- pledge box should be where the facts are
- persuasion (text) to our cause should be where the upcoming events are

we don't have to have a prize for the contest for promoters, but we should have that leaderboard again

we will have team leaders responsible for shaping the message of their theme and the stuff (images, facts, info, video, etc) that goes on to their page.

- lucent will head up the bring them home theme
- gage will do veterans
- sganet will do end the wars
- ?? who wants to head support our troops?

- and I.. *gulp*... I will make a video for each theme, alongside other talented video editors of RPF!
- we can have graphic artists design desktop wallpapers, flyers and posters.
- we need writers to write video ads and also write a couple of paragraphs for the pledge page that will help persuade people to pledge.
- we need people to compile a list of facts and make sure we have up to date and correct info to use on our articles, website and videos

i think everyone is in agreement to no facebook event. we can promote it via facebook but link to the actual money bomb site.
money bomb goal is not important, campaign will determine goal later on.

okay if you are any of the above we can start this now even before the domain is chosen. let's get to work!! bold items are priority. especially the facts. message me if you have any questions, or post here.


*Josh has expressed interest in doing it like this, but he said he's talking to the key people right now
*dusman is working on something right now, rest assured he is still working very hard to get RP elected.


I will pledge on making a video for each theme in the shortest amount of time possible! but it would really help if I have a page of facts to draw from! Let's all pledge to get this done on or before Friday, Oct 28. That will give us 2 weeks to promote!

and then the Promotion Bomb can commence!!

bombs away! lol ironic picture i know

[IndianaPolitico]

Bump!

[Sganet]

Looks good OP, I currently have the vetsforpaul link on ETW's page / events.

We should direct people to the pledge site, but FB event is also very useful on reminding people when an event is coming up. I think now days, people check their facebook more often than they check their emails, so having both will make sure they'll remember to donate.

[Chainspell]

Looks good OP, I currently have the vetsforpaul link on ETW's page / events.

We should direct people to the pledge site, but FB event is also very useful on reminding people when an event is coming up. I think now days, people check their facebook more often than they check their emails, so having both will make sure they'll remember to donate.

sent you a PM along with some others.

I'm currently nailing down 4 visual styles for the videos, already got one that I really like. and also I've downloaded some HD war footage from youtube. So I'll hit the ground running when everything is in place. I will need people who can write dialogue or the voice over script for the ads. We will post it on the forum and make adjustments, so it doesn't need to be perfect right away.

if you're reading this and you feel you can write something, please do!

[Chainspell]

what do you guys think should be the tone of the videos? or how should we appeal to the viewer?

here are some different ways of appealing to the viewer:

The most important types of advertising appeals include emotional and rational appeals. Emotional appeals are often effective for the youth while rational appeals work well for products directed towards the older generation. Here are just some of the various different kinds of advertising appeals seen in the media today:
http://www.articleswave.com/advertis...g-appeals.html

I always make videos that appeal to emotions, for some reason... but I can also make other ones, I just need a script. i really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSTKo...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJi1v...eature=related

Just watched parts 1, 2 and 3... going outside to cut down trees with my chainsaw while drinking beer and wrestling a bear to make up for all the crying I just did...

we can have a voice over going on while those clips are playing, and the voice over is giving them ron paul's reasoning for ending wars... let's see if they don't agree with us then!! we can use new clips from http://welcomehomeblog.com/ to increase emotional impact.

but for older folks we're gonna need some rational appeal. like ridiculous facts about the war.

[Chainspell]

This is one of my favorite movies "Thirteen Days"

when the generals were clamoring for war, JFK instead chose to communicate to the Russians in the form of a blockade.

watch at about 2:00:


imagine ron paul as president starting a new "form" of handling conflicts or problems. Man he will be an awesome president!

[TexMac]

Watch Aravoth's and eLib3rty's videos. They were super-popular last campaign.

[linusPAULing]

bump

[linusPAULing]

what do you guys think should be the tone of the videos? or how should we appeal to the viewer?

here are some different ways of appealing to the viewer:



I always make videos that appeal to emotions, for some reason... but I can also make other ones, I just need a script. i really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSTKo...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJi1v...eature=related



we can have a voice over going on while those clips are playing, and the voice over is giving them ron paul's reasoning for ending wars... let's see if they don't agree with us then!! we can use new clips from http://welcomehomeblog.com/ to increase emotional impact.

but for older folks we're gonna need some rational appeal. like ridiculous facts about the war.

I think the 80/20 rule applies here. 80% emotional appeal, 20% rational. Once folks have an emotional attachment to something they are more open to a few brief, concise rational appeals.

Also, time is short and emotional appeals are often immediate, particularly with this theme, while rational appeal alone tends to take some time.

[linusPAULing]

Regarding domain name... I presume this is well on its way to having been settled. If not, while my favorites for some time have been either BringThemHome.com or BringTheTroopsHome.com, another catchy name is the double entendre EndTheseBloodyWars.com.

[speciallyblend]

Ron Paulin, Ron Paul vs Status Quo /2 way Race in the GOP Primary

[seawolf]

RP Campaign released Black This Out Money Bomb Statistics!!!!

Great information for planningthe Nov. 11th Money Bomb.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron...ion-2011-10-14

Big push needs to be obtaining more donors due to average donation of $61.92 being just about half of the 2007 Money Bombs.

[ItsTime]

Where is the facebook event?

[IndianaPolitico]

Where is the facebook event?

Some are saying we will have none, but there is one going. I think Gage made it, but I could be wrong. http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php...63195827101460

[IndianaPolitico]

Do we have an "official" thread?

[chris41336]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone spoken to the campaign about this?

I'm sure they might have an opinion for the best "politically correct" name for the moneybomb to appeal to the broadest crowd.

Not to mention they will have to set up their site that day.

[ItsTime]

Some are saying we will have none, but there is one going. I think Gage made it, but I could be wrong. http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php...63195827101460

Thanks, just posted it on black this out facebook page.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone spoken to the campaign about this?

I'm sure they might have an opinion for the best "politically correct" name for the moneybomb to appeal to the broadest crowd.

Not to mention they will have to set up their site that day.

There was a poorly named one earlier in the year and the campaign just changed the name on their website to Ron Paul Vs Romneycare.

[FreeTraveler]

Please, please, please, please, please.

Get that image that shows donations to Ron Paul vs Obama and all the other candidates FRONT AND CENTER on the web site, the facebook page, and everywhere, and push, push, push that theme.

The first thing we should be selling is that Dr. Paul is the TROOPS FIRST CHOICE, and the event is being held in honor of that distinction.

The last thing we want is an interpretation that we're taking advantage of Veteran's Day to raise money for an anti-war political candidate. By stressing the TROOPS choice, we can avoid that.

Otherwise, the warmongers will use this as a chance to rake us over the coals.

I'm not sure if I've made the distinction clear, so ask if I didn't.

ETA: This is the image.

[anewvoice]

Once this is all settled, I am hoping the owner of BTO is going to image edit 1 more time to ask all BTO attendees to attend the 11/11 monybomb... Plus, campaign has 40k+ e-mail addresses to e-mail

[linusPAULing]

Please, please, please, please, please.

Get that image that shows donations to Ron Paul vs Obama and all the other candidates FRONT AND CENTER on the web site, the facebook page, and everywhere, and push, push, push that theme.

The first thing we should be selling is that Dr. Paul is the TROOPS FIRST CHOICE, and the event is being held in honor of that distinction.

The last thing we want is an interpretation that we're taking advantage of Veteran's Day to raise money for an anti-war political candidate. By stressing the TROOPS choice, we can avoid that.

Otherwise, the warmongers will use this as a chance to rake us over the coals.

I'm not sure if I've made the distinction clear, so ask if I didn't.

ETA: This is the image.

I agree that RP's military donations should be heavily emphasized but I don't think we need to shy away from the antiwar message. Ron Paul has never avoided it, even in nationally televised the debates.

Being against war profiteering is a sound principle and Ron Paul is the champion of standing firmly on principle. We should do the same!

[FreeTraveler]

I agree that RP's military donations should be heavily emphasized but I don't think we need to shy away from the antiwar message. Ron Paul has never avoided it, even in nationally televised the debates.

Being against war profiteering is a sound principle and Ron Paul is the champion of standing firmly on principle. We should do the same!

Agreed, and I didn't mean to overstress the issue, but I think it's very important people get that we're solidly in agreement with the troops.

I also think the idea of a separate site aimed directly at the anti-war movement is a great idea. I'm among that contingent, personally.

I just don't want to see a "Ron Paul Uses Veteran's Day to Demoralize Troops" headline popping up all over the place in the legacy media.

It needs to be obvious that we're asking people to follow the troops lead by their support, not undermining their desire to fight forever (the neocon spin). The donation graph makes that abundantly clear.

We're not trying to undermine the troops desire to fight and convince them to come home. We're respecting their wishes and trying to meet their needs. The difference is critical.

[linusPAULing]

Agreed, and I didn't mean to overstress the issue, but I think it's very important people get that we're solidly in agreement with the troops.

I also think the idea of a separate site aimed directly at the anti-war movement is a great idea. I'm among that contingent, personally.

I just don't want to see a "Ron Paul Uses Veteran's Day to Demoralize Troops" headline popping up all over the place in the legacy media.

It needs to be obvious that we're asking people to follow the troops lead by their support, not undermining their desire to fight forever (the neocon spin). The donation graph makes that abundantly clear.

We're not trying to undermine the troops desire to fight and convince them to come home. We're respecting their wishes and trying to meet their needs. The difference is critical.

You make a good point. We don't want to do ANYTHING to offend any troops in active duty. The Ron Paul movement probably appreciates their service more than most imo, and we need to make that absolutely clear!