Did Ahmadinejad threaten to wipe Israel off the map?

[dannno]

He also is not a Holocaust Denier

*runs away*

[jmdrake]

1) That's an often quoted mistranslation.
2) He actually asked for regime change in Israel....which is what the U.S. asked for in Iran. (Pot calling the kettle black?)
3) As president he is not in charge of the Iranian armed forces. So he couldn't attack Israel even if he wanted to.
4) Israel can take care of itself.
5) Our stupid foreign policy has given Iran a new ally in the region....Iraq!

[No Free Beer]

either way, we need to take every leader's words seriously. It doesn't matter if it is President Obama's, Merkel's, or MA's, you have to take what they say seriously. I believe that he has said that he wants to go after the Zionists. I don't trust the guy, that being said, what can we really do to stop them from obtaining a weapon? I mean, honestly?

I do want to make one more quick point and I know I am going to receive a lot of crap for this, but here goes:

For all of those who support Dr. Paul's position on 9/11 and how OBL said on numerous occasions the reason behind the attacks was because ofholy land, Palestine, etc, all I would say is that you cannot be hypocrites about words. You can't sit there and say, "look at what OBL said here...", then when the President of Iran says something that raises eyebrows, just simply ignore it and say "it doesn't matter." You have to take everything anyone of any prominent position says seriously. IF Ahmadinejad said something (which I don't know exactly what he said) that was provocative, then yes...take it seriously and hold them accountable. BTW, holding them accountable doesn't nec. mean war. It means attention, however.

[No Free Beer]

He also is not a Holocaust Denier

*runs away*

source?

[Bruno]

source?

Source for him saying it?

You're asking him to prove a negative.

[No Free Beer]

Source for him saying it?

You're asking him to prove a negative.

He made a statement saying that "he is not a Holocaust Denier"

How does he know that? Source please.

I am not saying he is lying, I actually want the proof so I can defend my position on Iran to other people.

[Josalyn]

Mistranslated quote aside.

Ahmedinejad has still said this of his own words, mind you - موت لاسرائيل /Māwt-lī Isrāel - easily translated to "Death to Israel" not to a regime or governmental leader, the actual country's name.


Even if I believe letting Israel defend itself is the better option, no one can deny Ahmadinejads intentions toward Israel, as well as whether or not he's just giving lip-service on the matter.

He also is not a Holocaust Denier

*runs away*

Who cares? Even if I still believe he IS a denier of the holocaust -- he has said much crazier things like people stealing Irans rain or an Octopuss being an evil-such and such

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[anaconda]

Here's a couple of things:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=4527

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...IKML_blog.html

And here's the ADL site apparently lying about it:

http://www.adl.org/main_Internationa...ejad_words.htm

[economics102]

I sometimes get into conversations about this with people and when I inform them that it's a misquote (and one often used by politicians who are aware it's a misquote or at least a questionable translation), the rebuke is often "who cares? the guy's evil and he wants to get rid of israel."

My response to this is always the same: "If Ahmadinejad is such a bad guy, why do you feel the need to rely on a known false quote to demonstrate how bad he is? Don't you have something real to back up your claim that Iran is this huge existential threat?"

Of course, as others here have spoken to, Ahmadinejad certainly isn't a saint, but, I mean hey, I don't like Barack Obama, that doesn't mean I go around making false claims about him that are even more horrible than the truth.

[anaconda]

My response to this is always the same: "If Ahmadinejad is such a bad guy, why do you feel the need to rely on a known false quote to demonstrate how bad he is? Don't you have something real to back up your claim that Iran is this huge existential threat?"

Excellent. Air tight. Ron should cite Sean Hannity's continual use of the mis quote in the next debate. It would cause a firestorm in the press but the fact check would be revealed. Or, no one might care and it might cause blow back to Ron's campaign.