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    I hope this wasn't posted yet. This was taken from the OWS website forum. It's brilliant and received many positive replies:


    I don't expect you to believe me. I want you to read this, take it with a grain of salt, and do the research yourself. You may not believe me, but I want your movement to succeed. From a former tea partier to you, young new rebels, there's some advice to prevent what happened to our now broken movement from happening to you. I don't agree with everything your movement does, but I sympathize with your cause and agree on our common enemy. You guys are very intelligent and I trust that you will take this in the spirit it is intended.

    I wish I could believe this Occupy Wall Street was still about (r)Evolution, but so far, all I am seeing is a painful rehash of how the corporate-funded government turned the pre-Presidential election tea party movement into the joke it is now. We were anarchists and ultra-libertarians, but above all we were peaceful. So, the media tried painting us as racists. But when that didn't work they tried to goad us into violence. When that failed, they killed our movement with money and false kindness from the theocratic arm of the Republican party. That killed our popular support.

    I am sharing these observations, so you guys know what's going on and can prevent the media from succeeding in painting you as violent slacker hippies rebelling without a cause, or from having the movement be hijacked by a bunch of corporatists seeking to twist the movement's original intentions. If you think this can't happen, it happened to the Independence Party and the tea party movement. Don't let it happen to your movement as well.

    Here's how they turned our movement into a bunch of pro-corporate Republican party rebranding astroturf, and this is how I predict they are turning your movement into a bunch of pro-corporate Democratic party rebranding astroturf. I believe many of these things are already happening, so take note.
    1- The media will initially and purposely avoid covering your dissenting movement to cause confusion about what your movement is about within mainstream audiences. It might feel like this is to enrage you and make you appear unreasonable. Perhaps you will feel even invisible.

    2- While the obsfuscation is happening, stooges will infiltrate and give superficial support, focus and financial backing to the targetted movement. In the tea party movement's case, it was the religious Republicans and Koch Brothers. In this case, it's the Public Sector Unions (the organizations as quasi-human entities, not the members themselves) and Ultra Rich liberals who pretend to care, but frankly do not serve liberators and freedom seekers but rather the interests of those who run the Public Sector Unions and the Democratic Party. Democrat, Republican, these parties are all part of the same corporate ruling system. Case in point: http://www.debates.org/

    3-The media will cover the movement only after this infiltration succeeds. Once the infiltration is completed the MSM will manufacture public media antipathy towards the movement by using selective focus on the movement's most repulsive elements or infiltrators on the corporate Conservative media side, while the corporate Liberal media will create a more sympathetic tragic hero image -- this is the flip side of the tea party, but same media manipulation tactics. I go into greater detail on this tactic: http://vaslittlecrow.com/blog/2011/0...-your-beliefs/

    4- Someone in the Democratic Party will feign sympathy for the movement and falsely "non-partisan" entities provide tons of funding and unwanted organization, just as was done with the tea party movement by Republicans. Once people assume that the pro-corporate government operatives are their friends, they will hijack the movement and the threat of your movement will be neutralized.

    If this new Occupy Wall Street movement is to survive, here's what needs to be done.

    1- Loudly denounce violence and disavow the violent rabblerousers of the movement. They do not help the cause.

    2- Be image conscious. Present your best face and call out those who act like fools within the movement. People are more likely to pay attention to you in your Sunday dress and bringing homemade food, than when you are drinking a bottle of Snapple and chomping on Big Macs while you are looking like a slacker rich hipster/unwashed hippie stereotype.

    3- Accept that you've already been infiltrated by the corporate-funded government, and work hard to say, and state what your movement is and is not about. "No, this isn't about unions or Liberals, conservatives or bored spoiled brats. This is about 99% of our population being exploited and manipulated for the sake of profit." "No we will not resort to violence." "Yes, all we want is for for the end of government collusion with corporate entities that are illegitimately recognized as people." And, so forth...

    4- Don't forget who you are as the illusions are thrown at you. Corporatists are masters of illusions. That's the most powerful weapon they have. That's how they sell products you don't need and convince you to justify accepting atrocities for the sake of products Don't fall for it. Otherwise, your cause will be lost. Be wary of large donations from special interest groups or non-profit corporations that were not involved this movement from the inception. Special interests groups are not your allies. Non-profit corporations are still corporations, and unfortunately, too many of them care more about donations than doing the right thing. Killing a movement with kindness is easy.

    5- Remain independent and focused. If you can, pick a face to represent your movement. Rosa Parks wasn't just a random lady in a bus. http://l3d.cs.colorado.edu/systems/a...a/bus-boycott/ -- She was chosen. You too can use the power of illusion against those who oppose you.
    [ADDENUM]

    6- On the web, you can prevent a lot of hijacking simply by checking the small print, or going to the about pages of a group or individual. Non-profits and political action groups are legally obligated to disclose a lot of things, and you need to be aware of this. If the information is nowhere to be found, do a whois page search -- if the information has a third-party privacy service or if it belongs someone in a partisan group, be alert. For example, I found one individual who was claiming to be non-partisan, but when I went to his website, I discovered that he wasn't an individual at all and that his organization was actually funded by the biggest partisan fundraiser organization of its kind in the United States. If someone says something fishy, it probably is.
    7- If you hear people who you know are part of the machine saying stuff like, "Progressives need to be more like the tea party," don't accept it on face value. Always follow the money, study past statements and groups they claim to be part of. If such people are suddenly telling you to emulate organizations that they once consistently denounced as evil or racist, without any rhyme or reason, they are lying to you.

    I wish your movement better luck than we had with the tea party movement before it got hijacked by the theocrats and corporatists. We used to be non-partisan too. We were the older version of you. But, I believe that as the media apparatchik and infiltrators start to twist your cause, you will understand the frustration us early adopter tea partiers felt and that we were not your enemy after all. A fascist oligarchy on the verge of winning is our common enemy. This should be your focus. Don't be dazzled by the illusion as we were. For the sake of our future, know who you are.




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    YES! I just called into the radio today about the last couple of paragraphs.
    Terminus tela viaticus!

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    A brilliant thing, from the Blue Republican point of view. Props to the author.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    A brilliant thing, from the Blue Republican point of view. Props to the author.
    Really? Because it seems to me like some of the things the author says "here's what needs to be done." is what was being told to the TP and might have even aided in its takeover...

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Really? Because it seems to me like some of the things the author says "here's what needs to be done." is what was being told to the TP and might have even aided in its takeover...
    But what if they knew, that we knew, that they knew, that we knew those plans are put in place so they go for giving us plans they want us to brake knowing we know, that they know, we know its a bad plan when really it is only a ploy to get us to go against their plan and really just end up doing what they wanted us to do, which was there plan in the 1st place?

    Then what? Then how would we escape their retched deeds?
    Last edited by Carehn; 10-05-2011 at 07:13 PM.
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    Sorry but ows is being taken over by Unions and communists not corporations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Really? Because it seems to me like some of the things the author says "here's what needs to be done." is what was being told to the TP and might have even aided in its takeover...
    Not saying you're wrong. Not even saying this comes soon enough to count as forewarning. Just saying that, one, it needed to be said to set the historical record straight, two, if they have no clue there's no hope, and three, it does show what they and we have in common.

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Sorry but ows is being taken over by Unions and communists not corporations.
    Communism exists only in Unionism in this nation these days, and suffers from the same disease that killed it in Soviet times. Otherwise there is only fascism, and I think it is as primed and ready to feed on the Occupy movement as on the Tea Party movement. And fascism is, of course, just another word for corporatism.

    Don't underestimate the enemy.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 10-05-2011 at 07:27 PM.
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    'An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem. Thatís what SEP means. Somebody Elseís Problem. The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot.'
    This government is Not Somebody Else's Problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    Communism exists only in Unionism in this nation these days, and suffers from the same disease that killed it in Soviet times. Otherwise there is only fascism, and I think it is as primed and ready to feed on the Occupy movement as on the Tea Party movement. And fascism is, of course, just another word for corporatism.

    Don't underestimate the enemy.
    This, same pile different spot, or something.
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    Remain leaderless. DO NOT allow any to take lead. Remain as individuals.

    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

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    If you can, pick a face to represent your movement.
    Um, perhaps you don't know where you're posting? Ron Paul is the bedrock of this movement.

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    If this new Occupy Wall Street movement is to survive, here's what needs to be done.
    Pretty bold claim, coming from somebody claiming to be part of a movement that failed.

    1- Loudly denounce violence and disavow the violent rabblerousers of the movement. They do not help the cause.
    No, don't. Just by doing this, you are admitting it exists. And the media will run with it, they won't run with "protestors are hungry" they will run with "protestors denounce violent demonstrators" That will backfire.
    Also, by denounce any violence you may take the high road; but you give up the valuable defensive weapon. Yes, the potential for violence for defensive purposes should be there! The government certainly uses violence and threats of violence, the corporations do as well. Every single demonstrator there should have some weapon for DEFENSE. Bats, pepper spray, guns damnit. You think that cop would have peppersprayed that girl if all the demonstrators were armed? Let's see them disarm a couple thousand peaceful but armed protestors.

    2- Be image conscious. Present your best face and call out those who act like fools within the movement. People are more likely to pay attention to you in your Sunday dress and bringing homemade food, than when you are drinking a bottle of Snapple and chomping on Big Macs while you are looking like a slacker rich hipster/unwashed hippie stereotype.
    Screw that. What better way to let the elite's shills move in than to try to dress like them. Was this movement/demonstration started by people dressed like mormons? (no offense to mormons). It didn't look that way to me. These people are protesting about not having money or jobs; but rather piles of debt and you want them to call out people that aren't dressed in starched shirts and ties? Yeah, kill the fun with a dress code, that will work. It is real fun to demonstrate in dress pants and shoes. Big Mac and snapple is the sign of a rich person? Really? LOL. Eat what you want, the media is going to pick out negative stereotypes no matter what you do,dress or say.

    3- Accept that you've already been infiltrated by the corporate-funded government, and work hard to say, and state what your movement is and is not about. "No, this isn't about unions or Liberals, conservatives or bored spoiled brats. This is about 99% of our population being exploited and manipulated for the sake of profit." "No we will not resort to violence." "Yes, all we want is for for the end of government collusion with corporate entities that are illegitimately recognized as people." And, so forth...
    But of course, so why would you want to change to try to fit in? Again with the "not resort to violence". Good little sheeple. Don't be the cow, be the poisonous pufferfish -- you eat me and you will die too.

    4- Don't forget who you are as the illusions are thrown at you. Corporatists are masters of illusions. That's the most powerful weapon they have. That's how they sell products you don't need and convince you to justify accepting atrocities for the sake of products Don't fall for it. Otherwise, your cause will be lost. Be wary of large donations from special interest groups or non-profit corporations that were not involved this movement from the inception. Special interests groups are not your allies. Non-profit corporations are still corporations, and unfortunately, too many of them care more about donations than doing the right thing. Killing a movement with kindness is easy.
    And yet this person is advocating people change to fit in, to put on a good image, to call out their own members. pfft.

    5- Remain independent and focused. If you can, pick a face to represent your movement. Rosa Parks wasn't just a random lady in a bus. http://l3d.cs.colorado.edu/systems/a...a/bus-boycott/ -- She was chosen. You too can use the power of illusion against those who oppose you.
    And being independent doesn't mean taking the advice of some random douche on the internet, it means doing what you think is best, that is if it is your own protest, your own movement, your own reason for being down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napolitanic Wars View Post
    Um, perhaps you don't know where you're posting? Ron Paul is the bedrock of this movement.
    Freedom and Liberty is the Bedrock. Ron Paul is our representative.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    I think the Tea Party's strength was also its biggest weakness: no leadership. As such, establishment celebrities were able to proclaim themselves to be the leaders, the establishment was able to take over events, and the media was able to cover it as if the establishment was in charge, giving no coverage to the dissent or message of the core members.

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    Oh well.

    They stole our banner, but we keep right on marching. Didn't miss a step.
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    'An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem. Thatís what SEP means. Somebody Elseís Problem. The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot.'
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