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    Free State Wyoming vs. Free State Project (New Hampshire)

    I have visited the websites of both and admittedly dont know much about either one. Which do you think would be better to join and why?
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    I vote Wyoming. Smaller state, more of a chance to do good. I wish there was also a Free State project for the Dakotas

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    Having recently been to Wyoming, I can say that I'm afraid that the biggest obstacle is the fact that the land is probably the least productive land in the USA. Homesteading Wyoming is a good way to starve to death slowly, and their economy is dismal. It's sparsely populated for a reason.
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    New Hampshire is a much bigger project in terms of the number of activists involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icymudpuppy View Post
    Having recently been to Wyoming, I can say that I'm afraid that the biggest obstacle is the fact that the land is probably the least productive land in the USA. Homesteading Wyoming is a good way to starve to death slowly, and their economy is dismal. It's sparsely populated for a reason.
    That's why I'd like to see a Free State North Dakota. great place for farming, has oil and a booming economy. Tiny population too.

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    The problem with new hampshire is that it's sandwiched between the most socialist states in the country and eventually it will be overrun in my opinion. Not sure what I think about wyoming. North Dakota seems like a better choice if you want to be in the middle of nowhere since it's economy is booming and has one of the lowest unemployment rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    That's why I'd like to see a Free State North Dakota. great place for farming, has oil and a booming economy. Tiny population too.
    People complain about New Hampshire being too cold; North Dakota makes it seem like the tropics.

    You're right about the tiny population though. I remember reading an article a few years back where some ND town held an election and no one (not even the mayor) showed up to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schiff_FTW View Post
    People complain about New Hampshire being too cold; North Dakota makes it seem like the tropics.

    You're right about the tiny population though. I remember reading an article a few years back where some ND town held an election and no one (not even the mayor) showed up to vote.
    Cold = lots of time to stay indoors and breed more liberty babies



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    Huh.

    I'll have to admit, I didn't know about Free State Wyoming, and I had thought I was pretty well up on this sort of thing. I know that the Free State Project had, at one time, considered Wyoming as well as Alaska before finally settling on New Hampshire as their target. I was totally unaware of the Free State Wyoming effort.

    JFK III, I'm assuming you're talking about:

    http://www.freestatewyoming.org/

    is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schiff_FTW View Post
    People complain about New Hampshire being too cold; North Dakota makes it seem like the tropics.

    You're right about the tiny population though. I remember reading an article a few years back where some ND town held an election and no one (not even the mayor) showed up to vote.
    Lol thats awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    That's why I'd like to see a Free State North Dakota. great place for farming, has oil and a booming economy. Tiny population too.
    Perhaps we can start a Free State North Dakota
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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Cold = lots of time to stay indoors and breed more liberty babies
    Thats how we can restore Liberty. Have so many kids that in 18 years we will win everything.
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    I'm not sure about land prices in NH but WY prices always seemed high for what you were getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCIndy View Post
    Huh.

    I'll have to admit, I didn't know about Free State Wyoming, and I had thought I was pretty well up on this sort of thing. I know that the Free State Project had, at one time, considered Wyoming as well as Alaska before finally settling on New Hampshire as their target. I was totally unaware of the Free State Wyoming effort.

    JFK III, I'm assuming you're talking about:

    http://www.freestatewyoming.org/

    is that correct?
    Thats the one.
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    Bump for the night crowd.
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    I probably say NH. I'm a Northeasterner though. Why not Montana maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingles View Post
    I probably say NH. I'm a Northeasterner though. Why not Montana maybe?
    Hmmm. What would make Montana a good choice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rifleman View Post
    I'm not sure about land prices in NH but WY prices always seemed high for what you were getting.
    Half of the land in Wyoming is owned by the state.

    ETA: 48% is owned by the feds and 6% by the state of Wyoming.

    I used to live in Casper and Sheridan.
    Last edited by TexMac; 10-05-2011 at 09:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Perhaps we can start a Free State North Dakota
    There was a vote by the top liberty activists (lol, well, those involved with the FSP) back around 2003 b/t the 10 states that the FSP was seriously considering because there was a possible chance of positive change in those states. NH came in first. ND came in last. Feel free to start such a project but I don't think anyone else will get involved. Besides, while ND is perhaps freer than WY, SD is freer than both of those states and it borders both of them.
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    I actually plan to buy an acre in North Dakota here pretty soon. Either for an investment, to move to if times get tough, or for a shtf type scenario. Oil and food will never go out of fashion, and having a stake in that state I think will be good if things get too bumpy here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    I have visited the websites of both and admittedly dont know much about either one. Which do you think would be better to join and why?
    Whichever state you think is better for YOU!

    I am a member of FSP (NH) and plan on moving there in a few years.
    "We do have some differences and our approaches will be different, but that makes him his own person. I mean why should he [Rand] be a clone and do everything and think just exactly as I have. I think it's an opportunity to be independent minded. We are about 99% [the same on issues]." Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Cold = lots of time to stay indoors and breed more liberty babies
    Yes!

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    North Dakota is the way to go.



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    Wyoming = Gov't Owned Land

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoluntaryAmerican View Post
    Whichever state you think is better for YOU!

    I am a member of FSP (NH) and plan on moving there in a few years.
    When i get home today (finally), i am going to look up NH, ND, SD and Montana and see which one i like best. Economy, laws, politics will be major factors.
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    North Dakota has a lot of taxes. South Dakota has almost no state taxes, but doesn't have the oil or coal ND does. Also I believe the largest employer in SD is the federal government. They have a huge air force base there. The tax issue I don't think is so bad, because if we were serous about a FS project in North Dakota, that can easily be changed. Not to mention ND has the means to fund itself without any taxation on it's citizens, they have lots of oil and the second largest coal deposits in the nation, not to mention some of the best land for agriculture

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    North Dakota is sounding really good. And i think it would be great to do a Free State North Dakota. We could take it over if we get enough people. And i think it should be a specific goal to get liberty minded people elected at all levels.
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    New Hampshire is where it's at. Over 10,000 have pledged to move and almost 1000 have already moved. If you have any serious interest at all, you owe it to yourself to come visit - most people who do, decide to move. Two great times to come visit are the NH Liberty Forum (Feb 23-26, 2012) and Porcupine Freedom Festival aka "Porcfest" (summer 2012)

    If you haven't already, check out this page on why Ron Paul supporters should join the Free State Project, and 101 Reasons to Move to New Hampshire.

    No disrespect to Wyoming or any other liberty efforts, but I don't think they can hold a candle to what is happening in NH.
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    Free State Wyoming started out of the decision which made NH the chosen state. Boston T. Party, one of those who prefered WY, started the project.

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