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    Default So, at what point will we have killed enough to get our freedoms back?

    Simple question.

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    Killing for peace is like drinking for sobriety.
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    When we have killed the disease that is rotting away everything the country once stood for.

    Luckily, no weapons are needed. Just votes. I can't wait to get back to the US to cast mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Simple question.

    :-/
    Reset button. There will never be enough killing to satisfy some people.

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    The problem is that many people think that killing in and of itself makes us free.
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    1.6 billion people should be enough to satisfy the right. Guess where i got that number.
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    When 95% of the worlds population as been killed.

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    I'm sorry but only a troll would ask that question, I never liked that guy cuz he's trying to paint us as extreme. WHAT AN IDIOT! and stupid question, toget what we want we need to be PEACEFULL, if I see retards like you in the crowd trying to throw rocks at police I'm going to beat your ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve005 View Post
    I'm sorry but only a troll would ask that question, I never liked that guy cuz he's trying to paint us as extreme. WHAT AN IDIOT! and stupid question, toget what we want we need to be PEACEFULL, if I see retards like you in the crowd trying to throw rocks at police I'm going to beat your ass
    Be careful, it is likely to be an undercover cop throwing the rocks in which case you'll find yourself in jail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Snowden;
    So its, I would say; illustrative that the president would choose to say, "someone should face the music" when he knows the music is a show trial.

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    I don't care, someone throwing rocks from the crowd needs to be dealt with by the crowd. otherwise the police will go after everyone,

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    we need to self-enforce peace when we are in large groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve005 View Post
    I don't care, someone throwing rocks from the crowd needs to be dealt with by the crowd. otherwise the police will go after everyone,
    Who is throwing rocks? or even suggesting it besides YOU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve005 View Post
    I'm sorry but only a troll would ask that question, I never liked that guy cuz he's trying to paint us as extreme. WHAT AN IDIOT! and stupid question, toget what we want we need to be PEACEFULL, if I see retards like you in the crowd trying to throw rocks at police I'm going to beat your ass
    LOL, what? So AF is suddenly a troll? LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve005 View Post
    I don't care, someone throwing rocks from the crowd needs to be dealt with by the crowd. otherwise the police will go after everyone,
    But if it is the police harming others, its a-ok then? You'll sit an laugh with delight as they make little girls scream in agony?
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Snowden;
    So its, I would say; illustrative that the president would choose to say, "someone should face the music" when he knows the music is a show trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve005 View Post
    I'm sorry but only a troll would ask that question, I never liked that guy cuz he's trying to paint us as extreme. WHAT AN IDIOT! and stupid question, toget what we want we need to be PEACEFULL, if I see retards like you in the crowd trying to throw rocks at police I'm going to beat your ass
    I believe AF is referring to Obama assassinating people for our freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    I believe AF is referring to Obama assassinating people for our freedoms.
    I'm pretty sure the rest of us think that too.

    So, at what point will we have killed enough "terrorists" to get our freedoms back?

    Edit:

    Of course we all know it's impossible to kill all of them. This of course means, if there isn't a minimum needed to die to end all of this, then we are stuck with a never ending war on "terror".
    Last edited by Dr.3D; 10-02-2011 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    I believe AF is referring to Obama assassinating people for our freedoms.
    I am 100% certain of that.



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    Default So, at what point will we have killed enough to get our freedoms back?

    Never. It is an endless war on terror.
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    according to the sustainability crowd, once the earth's population reaches about 500 million, they'll stop killing us, or whoever is left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve005 View Post
    I'm sorry but only a troll would ask that question, I never liked that guy cuz he's trying to paint us as extreme. WHAT AN IDIOT! and stupid question, toget what we want we need to be PEACEFULL, if I see retards like you in the crowd trying to throw rocks at police I'm going to beat your ass
    Christ, that's what I get for not s p e l l i n g i t o u t.

    As others have already noted, my question is rhetorical.

    Let me see if I can be more precise:

    How many more people will government have to kill, in our name, in order to declare the "war" won, and have our freedoms restored to, at the very least, a pre 9/11 level?


    I'll just point out in closing the laughable hypocrisy of "enforcing peace" by beating my ass.

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    What I want to know is, when do we get our souls back?
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    There will never be enough killing as long as those evil Muslim terrorists from half way around the world continue to legislate our freedoms away.
    Ron Paul let the cat out of the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGRP View Post
    There will never be enough killing as long as those evil Muslim terrorists from half way around the world continue to legislate our freedoms away.
    Yeah. Funny how they keep accomplishing that when neither I nor anyone else remembers voting for them. But then, it was not Congress but the UN that authorized Obama to bomb Libya...
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What I want to know is, when do we get our souls back?
    this is how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve005 View Post
    I'm sorry but only a troll would ask that question, I never liked that guy cuz he's trying to paint us as extreme. WHAT AN IDIOT! and stupid question, toget what we want we need to be PEACEFULL, if I see retards like you in the crowd trying to throw rocks at police I'm going to beat your ass
    he's talking about all the illegal wars and assassinations of US citizens, not starting a bloody revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary Man View Post
    this is how.
    Yes, that.

    Those that are aware and condemn this, and do what they can to stop or change this, I think retain or regain their souls.

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    Those who see what is happening and lament the loss of liberty are not among those who have lost their souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Simple question.

    :-/
    a simple question that you, mundane, may still have the freedom to ask, but you definitely do not have the right to know the answer.

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    Wars against ideologies are perpetual. That's why they want them.
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