Yes, and all you offered was your highly contrived re-interpretation of scripture to rationalize and justify the sins (very common among landowners) of pride, sloth and avarice. I'm not going to argue interpretations of scripture, as it is known that the devil can quote it to his own purposes -- which certainly include yours.
That's just indisputably false, as already proved. The MOST you can possibly claim is that God gave Adam and his descendants a TENURE right to the earth. There is nothing anywhere in scripture to indicate that God was granting a title of ownership rather than a right of tenure, and plenty to indicate that tenure was all God intended to grant, as Leviticus 25:23 shows.God gave Adam the title rights to the earth, and Adam passed those rights to his children, and so on and so on. So the earth is declared by God as a specific sphere of human ownership, just like other earthly temporal possessions.
Nope. That's just a flat-out fabrication. Boundary stones indicate only the limit of tenure rights, not a title of ownership. This is proved, repeat, PROVED by the fact that in the ancient Celtic tradition, where there was no landowning, they were widely used to delimit the portions of village commons that were to be used by the various households in the village, who DID NOT OWN the land thus delimited and had to relinquish it to someone else in a succeeding year. Legal historians are broadly agreed that while exclusive land tenure dates from the earliest settled agricultural societies, the institution of private property in land similar to the long-recognized property in products of labor was unknown before it was created under Roman law.This is why there were laws against moving your neighbors boundary stones...ownership is implied in the commands against land theft.
That's a flat-out fabrication. The Biblical description of the jubilee explicitly states that the LAND is to be reapportioned from those who claim to own it to the heirs of the original holders -- land and nothing else. Here:In regards to ownership, there is no distinction between land and other property in Scripture like you are making.
"On the Knesset Web site, the Basic Law on Israel Lands (1960) states: "The ownership of Israel lands, being the lands in Israel of the State, the Development Authority or the Keren Kayemeth LeIsrael [Jewish National Fund], shall not be transferred either by sale or in any other manner." Along comes a ministerial committee headed by the new prime minister, which hastily decides that Israel's lands will henceforth be marketed for sale and not for lease. Once again, the cabinet - a ministerial committee decision, as is known, is the same as a cabinet decision - has not responsibly and comprehensively scrutinized the initiative's significance.
The Israel Lands Administration needs basic reforms. But the decision to sell and not lease lands has far-reaching national-Zionist implications that could bring about grave fundamental changes. Not only is the decision a clear infraction of a Basic Law, it goes against one of the Jewish people's most ancient national and religious laws, the prohibition against selling the nation's land, even to its own people."
The people who wrote that law have been studying those passages of scripture for over 3000 years.
And neither is land.Biblically, the sun is not specified as an entity that is possible to be owned by humans,
What does it even mean to say that God owns everything, material and immaterial both? That doesn't solve anything.but the sun is still owned. That is why I said that you are fighting an entire universe of ownership. The Creator is the owner of every molecule of His material creation. Even alphabets and thoughts and those kinds of things are, in the final eternal sense, owned...because God is the ultimate cause of thought itself. God used the Hebrew and Greek alphabets, for example, as instruments to communicate His Word to men. Nothing, not even immaterial things like laws and thoughts, exist independent of the Creator's will.
Dominion is only tenure, not ownership; and God specifically told you that land was NOT to be sold forever, "voluntary" title transfer or no voluntary title transfer. If you can't sell it forever, it isn't your property.So, as a Christian, I can take a step back and consider all the arguments for or against IP for example, and not have to make a specific declaration about it, even though I have my opinions on it. But ownership in regards to land on this earth is something that I as a Christian have to make a specific declaration about, because God has given me the specific command of earthly dominion in Scripture and there are actual voluntary title transfers.
Not quite deep enough, though...Well, anyway.... I have to thank you Roy, because you have really made me dig deep into my worldview to provide a justification for the things I am talking about.
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