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    USA becomes Food Stamp Nation but is it sustainable?

    Republicans want to cut food stamps.

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Genna Saucedo supervises cashiers at a Wal-Mart in Pico Rivera, California, but her wages aren't enough to feed herself and her 12-year-old son.

    Saucedo, who earns $9.70 an hour for about 26 hours a week and lives with her mother, is one of the many Americans who survive because of government handouts in what has rapidly become a food stamp nation.

    Altogether, there are now almost 46 million people in the United States on food stamps, roughly 15 percent of the population. That's an increase of 74 percent since 2007, just before the financial crisis and a deep recession led to mass job losses.

    At the same time, the cost doubled to reach $68 billion in 2010 -- more than a third of the amount the U.S. government received in corporate income tax last year -- which means the program has started to attract the attention of some Republican lawmakers looking for ways to cut the nation's budget deficit.
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    "..and on Earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out...while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited Earth." -- Jesus of Nazareth



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    I think all the money taxed for the food stamps program would be better used to start/expand businesses and create jobs. Don't see why half of the nation should be enslaved feeding the other half. It would probably be efficient to give them a few live chickens and a small vegetable garden.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    - Edward R. Murrow

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    - which means the program has started to attract the attention of some Republican lawmakers looking for ways to cut the nation's budget deficit.

    Right, don't end the wars, take the poor peoples food away, they eat too much anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    It would probably be efficient to give them a few live chickens and a small vegetable garden.
    Then they wouldn't dependent on the state, can't have people being self sufficient.

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    working, and no housing expenses? still can't feed herself? what does she do with her pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    working, and no housing expenses? still can't feed herself? what does she do with her pay?
    Uses it for gas to get to work and pay for a babysitter.
    "..and on Earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out...while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited Earth." -- Jesus of Nazareth

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    working, and no housing expenses? still can't feed herself? what does she do with her pay?
    According to the info above she make $1008.8 a month before taxes, now i don't what her bills are but i would assume shes helps her mother out with what ever she can. On top of that she has 12 year old son.

    I'm not making excuses, just saying we dont know all the facts. Maybe she games the system maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    working, and no housing expenses? still can't feed herself? what does she do with her pay?
    gas. who knows how far she lives from work, since she can't afford to rent her own place.

    A thousand bucks won't get you very far if you don't know how to utilize every single dime and be terribly frugal. I could blow that in a couple of minutes just paying 1/4 of my monthly bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie View Post
    gas. who knows how far she lives from work, since she can't afford to rent her own place.

    A thousand bucks won't get you very far if you don't know how to utilize every single dime and be terribly frugal. I could blow that in a couple of minutes just paying 1/4 of my monthly bills.
    Especially not with a 12-year-old kid. School trips, team uniforms, school uniforms, car insurance, clothes, books, etc. I will not criticize her because she's working, she moved back in with mom, and I doubt she's living some lavish lifestyle.

    I will never defend ripping out the "safety net" programs until we've ended the massive spending on our deadly foreign policy and corporate welfare.
    Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi



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    Fine

    A fine mess we have gotten ourselves into, isn't it?
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    A fine mess we have gotten ourselves into, isn't it?
    It certainly is.
    Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    I will never defend ripping out the "safety net" programs until we've ended the massive spending on our deadly foreign policy and corporate welfare.
    I'd rep you if I could. Ending the wars has to be priority #1 in both restoring fiscal sanity and our liberties. We cannot be a free people (free as in liberty or free as in debt) so long as we are entangled in vicious wars.

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    but is it sustainable?
    No. Lol.

    Its too bad the average person doesn't really understand how such programs exist. They think its some kind of magic or something that they are able to just get "free" things from the government.

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    but is it sustainable?
    Well of course it is! Have we learned nothing from the Fed? Just print more food stamps!

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    they might as well just keep the food stamps program, because they won't save money by cutting the size of it. They'll just give the money they save to their criminal friends, so we still pay the same tax.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    Especially not with a 12-year-old kid. School trips, team uniforms, school uniforms, car insurance, clothes, books, etc. I will not criticize her because she's working, she moved back in with mom, and I doubt she's living some lavish lifestyle.

    I will never defend ripping out the "safety net" programs until we've ended the massive spending on our deadly foreign policy and corporate welfare.



    Root cause is fake money. Fix that, and the others will naturally fall into place(with a little help from us).

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    I'm tempted to say $#@! her, not that I blame her, mind you. A few years ago I was making roughly the same income as she is and going to school, and didn't get food stamps. I wasn't getting food stamps when I was unemployed for awhile either (nor unemployment). I'm now working full time in a better job, but the money I've paid in taxes is already missed. Where's my handout? Oh yeah, people who actually try to better themselves don't get one...not that I'd ask for one anyway. I will concede that food stamps are the least of our concerns at the moment though. On the other hand, nobody has starved in the U.S. since Jamestown, aside from that one expedition in which one of the guys had to eat his mates.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon



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    No different than the king trying to win favor by opening up "his" grain reserves and throwing it out among the hands of "his" huddled masses.
    Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne,--
    Yet that scaffold sways the future, and, behind the dim unknown,
    Standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above his own.
    ‫‬‫‬

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    if there were no food stamps, no medicaid then Wal-Mart would have to pay a living wage. seems everyone else is subsidizing Wal-Mart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I'm tempted to say $#@! her, not that I blame her, mind you. A few years ago I was making roughly the same income as she is and going to school, and didn't get food stamps. I wasn't getting food stamps when I was unemployed for awhile either (nor unemployment). I'm now working full time in a better job, but the money I've paid in taxes is already missed. Where's my handout? Oh yeah, people who actually try to better themselves don't get one...not that I'd ask for one anyway. I will concede that food stamps are the least of our concerns at the moment though. On the other hand, nobody has starved in the U.S. since Jamestown, aside from that one expedition in which one of the guys had to eat his mates.
    You didn't have a kid (that you know of.) Not an equal comparison.
    Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    You didn't have a kid (that you know of.) Not an equal comparison.
    I always add "that I know of" myself. However, I can't justify using "it's for the children" to promote wage slavery.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

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    Saucedo, who earns $9.70 an hour for about 26 hours a week and lives with her mother, is one of the many Americans who survive because of government handouts in what has rapidly become a food stamp nation.
    I love how this sentence implies that she is only alive because of the government food stamp program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    Especially not with a 12-year-old kid. School trips, team uniforms, school uniforms, car insurance, clothes, books, etc. I will not criticize her because she's working, she moved back in with mom, and I doubt she's living some lavish lifestyle.

    I will never defend ripping out the "safety net" programs until we've ended the massive spending on our deadly foreign policy and corporate welfare.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to amy31416 again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    You didn't have a kid (that you know of.) Not an equal comparison.
    Kids aren't a phenomenon that just happen; the government also gives away contraceptives. Phil is just tempted; I've already succumb. Zero sympathy for her.

    To answer the OP, yes it's sustainable because people like me will continue to work and we will continue to be forced to support people like her.
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    You'll continue to work as long is there is a job available to do work for. Cant work if there is no job, which is a problem for quite a few Forum Members here.
    1776 > 1984

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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    You'll continue to work as long is there is a job available to do work for. Cant work if there is no job, which is a problem for quite a few Forum Members here.
    I'll give you a job if you want one.
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    Im afraid to even ask...
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    All I can say is without rental expenses and earning over $1k/month, she and/or her son must have a Large appetite.

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    I bet some of that is going to bills. The problem is that if you report it you get stripped of some of the help they have made it that you have to have to get by at those levels of income.

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    Any reason she is just working 26 hours a week? If she could work at least 40 that would likely make the difference between feeding herself or not.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    Thomas Paine

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    school trips are not required, and only private schools require uniforms. if she can't afford to buy food she should walk or take the bus.

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