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    The Americans for Legal Immigration forum

    When I was there the were 24 members and 814 lurkers! A Ron Paul presence (and a debunking of Fred Thompson) there would help for any of you who are passionate about this issue. They also welcome frustrated Freepers and even have a folder dedicated to them.


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    Ron Paul's stance is to remove the incentive for illegals to come here and have kids by repealing birthright citizenship via a Constitutional amendment.

    What I don't understand is why the Good Dr wants to make doing so harder than it is.

    The 14th Amendment stipulates that US citizens meet the two following requirements:
    1) the person has to be either born or naturalized in the United States; and
    2) the person must be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

    Section 5 of the Amendment gives to Congress the power to enforce the Amendment with appropriate legislation--i.e. Congress has the power to declare who is subject to the jurisdiction of the US and who is not. Congress has yet to do this. This has left the Supreme Court to decide, and they have yet to make a firm stance either. Only one case has come near to a decision, in Plyler v. Doe, but they didn't. They only declared that the illegal immigrant, John Doe, was "within the jurisdiction" of the State of Texas and thusly could not be denied Equal Protection Rights.

    The answer to the issue is simple: Congress must make law clearly delineating who is and who is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

    Other than that Congress could easily change this law whenever it suited them, I don't get the reason that Dr Paul wants an amendment (unless it's to keep the definition from blowing in the wind).
    "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free." -Göthe
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    I believe Dr. Paul wants to amend the constitution to repeal birthright citizenship (to people whose parents weren't born here). While he's at it, I think there is more from the 14th amendment that underpins government tyranny and definitely needs to be revisited/reverted to they way it was before.
    Last edited by johngr; 06-13-2007 at 02:10 AM.

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