Rand Paul goes On the Record with Greta Van Susteren tonight at 10 pm ET

[Traditional Conservative]

I think it depends on what you mean by that statement.

Ron may be the more articulate speaker for libertarians, viewers of ronpaulforums.com, and those who have read the literature of the movement. Let's just say he doesn't mince words and says exactly what needs to be said, even if it goes above the head of your average person.

Rand is unequivocally the better speaker for mainstream America and for those who don't necessarily identify as a "libertarian"... hence why so many blowhard neo-cons and Bush Republicans LOVE Rand but hate Ron...it's really not even close tbh. The brilliance of Rand is how well he understands this and packages his message to reach more people...Rand's ability to "play politics" is also why he is the number 1 public enemy of progressives, while Ron isn't even on their radar.

Yes, that's very true. While I think that Ron is still the best candidate in the GOP primaries, I'm probably one of the few people on these forums who's a bigger fan of Rand than Ron. Rand simply comes across as being more mainstream, and he also has a few slightly different positions than Ron on the issues where I don't agree with Ron. Gitmo, military tribunals, and the death penalty are a few I can think of. Overall, I think that Rand just does a much better job of reaching out to conservative Republicans than Ron does.

[Sola_Fide]

That was great.

Rand is one of those clear-speaking and clear-thinking communicators like Reagan who has the power to effectively persuade opinion and frame the debate. Like Reagan, Rand has the ability to communicate libertarian ideas in a way that average people who don't have a background in Austrian economics can understand.

It's not very often that you have the twin virtues of 1. principle and 2. being able to effectively communicate the ideas of principle.

[georgiaboy]

Of course the vice versa is that Rand often goes under the heads of the "intellectually-curious" Ron fans; who can't manage to read between the lines.

fixed for ya?

[georgiaboy]

Last couple of answers captured here. So right on.

What can the president do to show to your satisfaction ... that he is leading on this issue [regarding the debt ceiling negotiations]?

Well, the first thing he would do if the president were a true leader is he would take default off the table. It shouldn't even be considered. It's really an obligation, a constitutional obligation, to pay for your debts, to pay the interest on your debt.

How does he take that off [the table] if we don't have any more money to borrow to pay our bills?

Well, it's interesting that we actually do. We bring in about $200 Billion a month in tax revenue, our interest payment is about $20 Billion. We have more than enough money that comes in every month in tax revenue to pay the interest on our debt. We can't pay for everything, [but] we can pay for Social Security also; [the president] should quit scaring the senior citizens. And we can also pay for our soldiers' salaries. And we can pay for another $70 or $80 Billion dollars worth of government; we just couldn't pay for all of government.

But [the president] could take default off the table and then this wouldn't be such a crisis situation. He's manufactured a crisis, and if we don't have an arrangement by August 2nd, and there is a dip in the stock market, the blame lies squarely on his shoulders for allowing this crisis to happen and actually encouraging this crisis.

[specsaregood]

fixed for ya?

I don't think so. it displays an inability to parse the statement correctly; so I think "over" is still the correct word to use.

[georgiaboy]

yeah, I caught your innuendo and agree - just playin' around.

[123tim]

Did she really say "how can you take that off though, if we don't have any money to BORROW to pay our bills" @ 4:25?

[Eric21ND]

Rand really breaks it down for the average person to understand.

[smithtg]

i have always wondered what is wrong with her mouth

[smithtg]

that was a great video wow