Topic Split: Windows, Mac or Linux

[speciallyblend]

The point is for somebody on a budget, who only needs to do web browsing, homework and watch movies on a laptop, can buy the same processing power, same memory, same basic specs for under $400 where a Mac will cost upwards of $1,000 or more. They can install linux/Ubuntu and basically have the same interface as a Mac with as good or greater reliability and speed. I'm not just saying they are overpriced for personal computers, they are overpriced for personal computers.

Now if you're a DJ, I have yet to see a DJ at a club or a concert who didn't have a Mac laptop. I have to assume there's a good reason for that.

not really i have serato live this is what your seeing most djs use but i use a pc, just they spent more! serato live operates basically the same on a pc or mac.. nothing but image and saying i have mac look at me hehe, propaganda and they bought hook line and sinker!!

mine is better then a mac anyway it has Ron paul 2008 sticker on it instead of some silly overpriced apple!

[speciallyblend]

LMAO.... You destroyed me?? You have SUCH a wonderful imagination. Have you thought of writing children's fairy tales? Oh wait, YOU ALREADY DO!!!

you have an apple now go leave us commoners alone while you sit on top of your own hill!

[OrigSEOH]

Good freedom flick.

"Revolution OS"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjaC8Pq9-V0

[Inkblots]

I've got a dual boot Vista/Fedora 12 box here.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20

ROTFLMAO.... If I may but take the liberty... "GAME OVER"...




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[dannno]

not really i have serato live this is what your seeing most djs use but i use a pc, just they spent more! serato live operates basically the same on a pc or mac.. nothing but image and saying i have mac look at me hehe, propaganda and they bought hook line and sinker!!

mine is better then a mac anyway it has Ron paul 2008 sticker on it instead of some silly overpriced apple!

Oh that's cool to know.

[speciallyblend]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20

ROTFLMAO.... If I may but take the liberty... "GAME OVER"...




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proves nothing ,except both mac and pc users have to read instructions instead of cutting the computer on and using it!!

[dannno]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20

ROTFLMAO.... If I may but take the liberty... "GAME OVER"...




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I'm pretty sure most people just click on their wifi logo in their system's tray and select McDonalds on PC as well, but giving those instructions guarantees that they reach the correct location as the wifi logo may appear different or be temporarily hidden.

[speciallyblend]

mod note it was rpv that started this sheep crap and hi-jacked the original prodigy thread but now he has his own love fest i gotta mac thread for himself ,so go love it rpv love it good.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

proves nothing ,except both mac and pc users have to read instructions instead of cutting the computer on and using it!!

Actually, the Mac will just connect to it. Unless a user has manually configured their Mac not to connect automatically.

[dannno]

Actually, the Mac will just connect to it. Unless a user has manually configured their Mac not to connect automatically.

That sounds awesomely secure.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

That sounds awesomely secure.

Um, a Mac is not Windows. It is pure UNIX. Good luck trying to hack it over WiFi.

[iHumanist]

I use both Windows and Mac.

[dannno]

Um, a Mac is not Windows. It is pure UNIX. Good luck trying to hack it over WiFi.

I'm willing to bet that some unsuspecting Mac users have shared folders without passwords on their laptop and occasionally take it on the go. If you're connecting up to a network you know about, you'll probably be fine. But if somebody is fishing for Macs that automatically connect to their network and happen to have shared folders, then they will get access. Most people don't share private stuff. Most people. Then there may be other issues as well.. the point is you should probably at least choose to connect to networks the first time so you aren't hooking up to random networks all the time. I know my iphone asks me the first time I hookup to a network, then after that connects automatically, which is fine.

[speciallyblend]

Actually, the Mac will just connect to it. Unless a user has manually configured their Mac not to connect automatically.

yeah let me go waste 1000 and buy all new softwaRE OVER THAT!! nonsense no need to, i can connect automatically to

[specsaregood]

Um, a Mac is not Windows. It is pure UNIX. Good luck trying to hack it over WiFi.

There is so much lose in that ^ statement that I am at a loss of where to begin.

Edit: begin down exploit lane:
http://www.exploit-db.com/platform/?p=osX

[TheViper]

I run Windows and Linux. Sadly the poll does not allow multiple options so I've not voted.

Um, a Mac is not Windows. It is pure UNIX. Good luck trying to hack it over WiFi.

You do know that macs are always the first thing to get cracked at the COMSEC?


As for the Mac vs PC debate, I build computers. And a PC with a clean Windows install (not bloated crap like HP, Dell and others) will last just as long as a Mac, cost far less in the process and are more powerful $ for $.

Why are Macs popular with DJ's and movie developers? Tradition. Back in the Pentium 4 and Windows XP days, the Mac definitely had a leg up on applications that were highly parallel in processing. Not only is that no longer the case but Windows 7 and high end Intel chips have well surpassed the performance of the Mac in those conditions now.

Keep in mind that a Mac is just a PC with very selective and limiting hardware and a different OS. Considering all the hardware components are actually consumer grade PC parts, the costs are not very consumer friendly.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

There is so much lose in that ^ statement that I am at a loss of where to begin.

Edit: begin down exploit lane:
http://www.exploit-db.com/platform/?p=osX

Oh, let's take a little closer look at that shall we...

The Mac has 5 pages of exploits. Five. Now I wonder how many pages of exploits Windows might have? 10? 20? Surely not 50?

Try 166 pages of exploits.
CASE IN POINT!

Talk about LOSE alright!!!

Thank you!

And with that, I rest my case. Goodnight.

[afwjam]

This is a classic argument that will never end. Dont worry, Apple is not hurting for the argument to change. I believe they are the second largest corporation in the world by market cap.(Profit margins are nice) I have a PC, the desktop I built.(Core i5, 8 gb ram, 460 GTX FTW edition) Windows 7 is pretty nice. My main computer is my Macbook Pro. I challenge you this PC users:

Try using a Macbook for 1 month, then see if you think the mac is overpriced. Its the little things that count. I cant imagine a world without two finger scrolling. PC's are great, Macs are great, they are not comparable. If you like your Toyota, thats great! Other people will continue to drive there Mercedes what ever you think.

[dannno]

This is a classic argument that will never end. Dont worry, Apple is not hurting for the argument to change. I believe they are the second largest corporation in the world by market cap.(Profit margins are nice) I have a PC, the desktop I built.(Core i5, 8 gb ram, 460 GTX FTW edition) Windows 7 is pretty nice. My main computer is my Macbook Pro. I challenge you this PC users:

Try using a Macbook for 1 month, then see if you think the mac is overpriced. Its the little things that count. I cant imagine a world without two finger scrolling. PC's are great, Macs are great, they are not comparable. If you like your Toyota, thats great! Other people will continue to drive there Mercedes what ever you think.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-...ndows-laptops/

Any other little things that are worth hundreds of dollars to you?

[dannno]

I think a better analogy is saying that, yes, Mac is like Mercedes. They don't have any cheap $#@!ing cars, all they have are expensive ones. PC's are like Toyota, Suburu and BMW, you can choose what class you want, but you probably will never quite reach the luxury and convenience found in a Mercedez unless you do some customizing, but you have the option of going more affordable, or higher performance for less money, or much higher performance for about the same amount of money, all with slightly less luxury and convenience.

[TheViper]

Oh, let's take a little closer look at that shall we...

Thank you!

And with that, I rest my case. Goodnight.

Do please explain to my why Mac computers are cracked first at COMSEC every year.

Also noted that exploits are a product of exposure just as much as they are a product of actual faults. Given that MacOS is far less exposed than Windows, exploits will be far less in number.

I cant imagine a world without two finger scrolling

Funny, my Windows 7 based laptop has 2 finger scrolling. Say, how do you like that fancy 2 button mouse?

[afwjam]

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-...ndows-laptops/

Any other little things that are worth hundreds of dollars to you?

What a joke, You obviously don't get it.
I have had friends show up with pcs loaded with many different hacks for two finger scroll. Its not the same, trust me. Mac scrolls like butter! Within the small things there are even smaller things. Like acceleration, responsiveness, pinch to zoom, multi finger swipes, two finger rotations....

[afwjam]

Funny, my Windows 7 based laptop has 2 finger scrolling. Say, how do you like that fancy 2 button mouse?

As I responded before, its bastardized two finger scroll. It does not scroll like butter, with acceleration, and system wide responsiveness.
Macs dont have any buttons, they have a multitouch surface which can accept any number of commands through various gestures.

The thing is, most mac users have used a PC and prefer a mac. Most PC users have used a PC and are blind to anything else, except the iPhone they claim as an exception.

[dannno]

What a joke, You obviously don't get it.
I have had friends show up with pcs loaded with many different hacks for two finger scroll. Its not the same, trust me. Mac scrolls like butter! Within the small things there are even smaller things . Like acceleration, responsiveness, pinch to zoom, multi finger swipes, two finger rotations....

[dannno]

As I responded before, its bastardized two finger scroll. It does not scroll like butter, with acceleration, and system wide responsiveness.
Macs dont have any buttons, they have a multitouch surface which can accept any number of commands through various gestures.

The thing is, most mac users have used a PC and prefer a mac. Most PC users have used a PC and are blind to anything else, except the iPhone they claim as an exception.

I used a Mac for a year in school learning graphic design, and more recently I had a Mac mini as the house media center plugged into the main tv for about 2 years.

They work pretty well, and are stable. Ever since they switched to a Unix based OS and intel processing I think it has made out to be much better as a personal computer.

I like that they aren't as vulnerable even if it is only because they are such a small percentage of the market. If linux was out of the picture, I would consider installing Snow leopard on a PC (hackintosh) over windows, or have a dual boot, if only to help keep my system cleaner.

I just think it's overpriced hardware, unless I had a bunch of extra money lying around I don't think I'd buy one. Linux is a much better solution, unless you want to pay hundreds of dollars for gestures and such.

[Revolution9]

Wrong, and I've already destroyed you in the other thread. Go back to sucking your thumb and let the adults play.

You are hardly an adult. You sound just like the snot nosed, bad boyz gamer PC brats on the game engine forum who want to make an MMORPG/FPS. You desytroyed nothing except the concept of viewing your posts as though they are from an adult.

HTH
Rev9

[Revolution9]

That sounds awesomely secure.

It certainly is. You do not have to go under the hood and mess with $#@! for it to be secure either.

HTH
Rev9

[Revolution9]

yeah let me go waste 1000 and buy all new softwaRE OVER THAT!! nonsense no need to, i can connect automatically to

I would have to spend about 45K USD to replace the software on my macs and would be crazy to as what I have works flawlessly together. I still have files from my first mac in 1992. I have been forced to use PC's and dreaded it. Something always effed up or the blue screen of death stopped work dead in its tracks. This has never occurred on a mac. I kept a note above my station when I brought my own computer in to avoid their workstations. While the others around me cussed and raged about crashes I would just point at my sign every time the question "why?" was popped. "Because its a Mac" my sign said. I develop iOS games and apps, desktop and web games and apps, use a few dozen API's, about 4 IDE's, ZBrush, Cinema 4D, Unity Pro, Unity iPhone Pro, CS5 bundle, Shake, LogicPro, SILVIA(AI interactive speech), XCode, MonoDevelop, 3D-Coat, MMO serverware, Line6 Gearbox, Filter Forge, Substance Designer and a couple of dozen supporting apps and plugins. PC's cannot even handle much of the stuff I work on such as iOS games and apps, nothing comes close to Logic from my scoring and composition needs. Furthermore I had to run the SILVIA app on our one windows machine and after three months of teaching it about an entire game world involving thousands of entries, many unretrievable from human memory as they came during writing sessions on the fly the damned OS decided that the extension meant it was made by an internal OS routine and refused to write to or read the file ever again. 3 months and over 8500 in dev costs down the tubes. That is why I do not use windows.

Best Regards
Rev9

[speciallyblend]

i got a mac nanananananana, that is how mac users sound really!! bottom line is macs are overpriced, especially since they have the same hardware under the hood. all 3 have uses for sure but one is overpriced!!