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    I'm curious about the military and the Constitution. Considering the wars since World War 2 have all been illegal technically, why doesn't the military just refuse to go to Libya or anywhere unless the Congress has passed a declaration of war? What would be the blowback on that?



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    ron paul should make some commercials and get some of the donors to join the commercial and endorse? It would be great or at least bring up the fact of the support!

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    Quote Originally Posted by realtonygoodwin View Post
    I joined the Air Force to become an intelligence analyst to help find Osama bin Laden. I see no problem with that.

    Also, some people may reject these numbers. For some reason, they think people who donate to Ron Paul are marking down the military as their employer, when in reality they aren't in the military. That's the problem with it being self-identifying. Lame, I know.
    easily rejected if they can make a commercial with veterans and some of the donors?? start showing some cards and calling the neo-cons bluff!
    Last edited by speciallyblend; 07-17-2011 at 12:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by independentnc View Post
    Here is what I cam up with for Ron Paul

    USAF *30351.28
    USAF (RETIRED) 226.2
    US MILITARY * 551.20
    US NAVY * 2,320.28
    US NAVY RESERVE * 801.20
    US ARMY * 11,057.44
    US ARMY RETIRED * 201.20
    US COAST GUARD * 451.20
    USMC * 713.61
    USN * 1,201.20
    USNR * 500.00
    US AIR FORCE * 3,026.32
    US AIRFORCE * 212.00
    UNITED STATES AIR FORCE * 451.20
    UNITED STATES ARMY * 302.20
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS * 301.20
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS / GSSC * 329.00
    UNITED STATES MILITARY * 380.00
    UNITED STATES NAVY * 2,877.80
    U S NAVY * 250.00
    NAVY * 50.00
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE * 701.20
    DEPARTMENT OF NAVY * 250.00
    DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE * 227.60
    DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS * 667.20
    DEPT ARMY * 100.00
    DEPT OF DEFENSE * 1,000.00
    DOD * 1,869.60
    DOD - US NAVY * 400.00
    ARMY * 554.50
    ARMY RESERVE * 201.20
    Total 35,222.83
    I wish that I had time to go through them all.
    Rep +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Fantastic job, I owe you a rep when get some more ammo.

    Shamelessly cross posting this:
    REP +1 for me too! will share info as well and hope for the graph development and press release also

    great job!

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    This news is probably one of, if not the most important news to come out for the campaign to date. If the military vote is with Ron Paul, even as he battles the military industrial complex, then his chances of becoming the Commander in Chief will grow very significantly.
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by dusman View Post
    Hi, I just wanted to comment on this. I made that difficult to decision to get out of the Army soon as possible and had to fight the system to do it. Ron Paul had inspired a new interest for me - the Constitution. However, with that interest, it was inevitable that I would come to this conclusion:

    To be a soldier whom puts his oath as the superior order of their duty, is incompatible with our current military system. The only choice to be an honorable, oath-keeping soldier is to either spend half a lifetime trying to change it from the inside or get out of the military and change it from the outside.

    On that conclusion, I chose the latter of the two. It was a tough fight to get out, but I was able to get out early on a general, under honorable - upgraded to an honorable. The only thing I lost was the GI funds for college.

    For reinforcement, I expressed in good faith to my First Sergeant what it meant to me to be a soldier and that it wasn't compatible with the kind of soldier they seem to wand. I asked for his support in a smooth transition out of the military for this reason, because I wasn't changing my mind. He backed me up and I fell in line for 2 months and played good soldier, then got out.

    It was a tough decision, but I don't regret it whatsoever. I feel like I made the right choice as a soldier. I am much happier knowing I stood up for what I believed in and didn't back down.

    So in a way, Ron Paul not only changed my life - perhaps he may have saved it.

    Ron Paul 2012
    That's beautiful, man.

    Puts a tear in my eye, and I'm not even military. I wish there was a whole thread like this titled "Military For Ron Paul Speaks" or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgadget View Post
    That's beautiful, man.

    Puts a tear in my eye, and I'm not even military. I wish there was a whole thread like this titled "Military For Ron Paul Speaks" or something.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgV6VUinDEA
    2016 gop est business as usual, rules do not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpdsapuser View Post
    I'm curious about the military and the Constitution. Considering the wars since World War 2 have all been illegal technically, why doesn't the military just refuse to go to Libya or anywhere unless the Congress has passed a declaration of war? What would be the blowback on that?
    some answers for you:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...lare-war/page3

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...or-Libya/page4

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    Looks good to me, so I tweeted

    Ron Paul from FEC reports has 2X the individual military contributions to his campaign than all other GOP candidates combined #tcot #gop2012
    “We have it in our power to begin the world over again.” - Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    So i remember last election Dr. Paul had more military donations then all candidates combined ( both R's and D's)

    So ran through the numbers on FEC site http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2011/Q2/
    I based these numbers off the employer section. Anyone who described their employer as military.
    Army, Navy ,Air Force, National Guard ,Costa Guard, Marine Corps and Dept of Defense.


    An this is what i have come up with so far.

    *Now these numbers are not 100% accurate, i may have missed one here or there. *


    Cain $6223
    Romney $4350
    Bachmann $2550
    Newt $1025
    Pawnlety $250
    Santorum $250
    Johnson $0

    Total $14648.00



    The Good Doctor comes in more than double all the other Republican candidates combined.

    Paul $ 31822.21

    Add in Obama's total of $14849.00 to the others ($29497.00) and Ron still beats em!
    If only I could +rep eight times, one in honor of each person who doesn't come close to touching Paul's totals.

    This needs to be made viral. I've been pushing it heavily with people. This speaks volumes about the election. The troops want to come home. And they believe in Paul, as former member of the military, to help them. Even Ronald Reagan said Paul knows what our military needs, as a former member. This is all there in Paul's favor. And without him pushing it, we the grassroots need to do so.

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    Fantastic
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    Have these numbers been double, (triple?) checked? I promoted the article to the front page with a slight disclaimer, and posted it to facebook/twitter yesterday (with lots of reposts/retweets ) but would like to post an article elsewhere and need to have confirmation on the accuracy here. Sorry I don't have time to go through the whole thing myself... Thanks
    Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.

    What others do pales beside what YOU do.

    Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...

    "Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

    ~ C.Coolidge

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    I noticed that both mine and my wife's donations aren't listed. I checked by employer, and neither of our employers were listed and then I checked by zip code and there were no donations for our zip codes. That's weird. I'm assuming if you donated through the ronpaul2012.com website it would be listed, right?

    - ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Landon View Post
    I'm assuming if you donated through the ronpaul2012.com website it would be listed, right?
    If you donated through ronpaul2012.com and you donated at least $200, it should be listed. Smaller donors don't get listed; I guess privacy trumps corruption concerns in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exponent View Post
    If you donated through ronpaul2012.com and you donated at least $200, it should be listed. Smaller donors don't get listed; I guess privacy trumps corruption concerns in that case.
    Oh, I don't think I reached the $200 minimum yet. Is it $200 and above in a single donation or is it $200 and above in total of all donations? I'm thinking I'm close to the $200 total.

    Thanks.
    - ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Landon View Post
    Oh, I don't think I reached the $200 minimum yet. Is it $200 and above in a single donation or is it $200 and above in total of all donations? I'm thinking I'm close to the $200 total.

    Thanks.
    - ML
    $200 is the mandatory minimum for disclosing one's employer so I guess it doesn't get leaked until the threshold is met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSP-Rebel View Post
    $200 is the mandatory minimum for disclosing one's employer so I guess it doesn't get leaked until the threshold is met.
    Well, it looks like I'll be listed in the next quarter then.

    - ML

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    Went over the numbers for Paul again. I used independentnc's numbers (removed donations from DVA) and double checked my own.

    ARMY 554.50
    ARMY RESERVE 201.20
    DEFENSE DEPT 244.32
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 701.20
    DEPARTMENT OF NAVY 250.00
    DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE 227.60
    DEPT ARMY 100.00
    DEPT OF DEFENSE 1,000.00
    DOD 1,869.60
    DOD - US NAVY 400.00
    INDIANA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 100.00
    MILITARY 1,452.40
    NAVY 50.00
    NEVADA AIR NATIONAL GUARD 250.00
    U S NAVY 250.00
    UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 451.20
    UNITED STATES ARMY 302.20
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 301.20
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS / GSSC 329.00
    UNITED STATES MILITARY 380.00
    UNITED STATES NAVY 2,877.80
    US AIR FORCE 3,026.32
    US AIRFORCE 212.00
    US ARMY 11,057.44
    US ARMY RETIRED 201.20
    US COAST GUARD 451.20
    US MILITARY 551.20
    US NAVY 2,320.28
    US NAVY RESERVE 801.20
    USAF 3,051.28
    USAF (RETIRED) 226.20
    USCG 137.74
    USMC 713.61
    USN 1,201.20
    USNR 500.00

    Total $36739.79


    Ill update the OP.

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    Santorum
    U.S. ARMY 250.00


    Pawlenty

    AIR FORCE 250.00

    Gingrich
    U.S.A.F. 525.00
    US ARMY 250.00
    US NAVY 250.00

    Total $1025


    Bachmann
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 300.00
    NAVY 500.00
    U. S. ARMY 250.00
    U.S. MILITARY 1,000.00
    U.S. NAVY 250.00
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 250.00


    Total $2550

    Romney
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 250.00
    DEPT OF DEFENSE 600.00
    DOD 500.00
    UNITED STATES ARMY 250.00
    UNITED STATES NAVY 2,500.00
    USAF-AMERICAN AIRLINES 250.00
    US NAVY 500.00
    USMC 250.00

    Total $5000


    Cain
    AIR FORCE 73.00
    DOD 250.00
    GA NATIONAL GUARD 500.00
    U. S. ARMY 500.00
    U.S. AIR FORCE 750.00
    U.S. ARMY 800.00
    US ARMY 1,000.00
    US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS 250.00
    US NAVY 600.00
    USAF 500.00
    USAF/TEACHER 250.00
    USMC 750.00

    Total $6223


    Obama
    AIR FORCE 242.00
    ARMY 750.00
    ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 250.00
    DEFENSE DEPARTMENT 225.00
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 3,900.00
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DEPENDENT SCHOOL 210.00
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DEPENDENTS SCHOO 1,050.00
    DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY 800.00
    DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY 625.00
    DEPT OF AIR FORCE 250.00
    DEPT OF DEFENSE 955.00
    DEPT. OF DEFENSE 212.00
    DOD 724.99
    DOD/OIG 225.00
    NAVAL MEDICAL CENTER SAN DIEGO 300.00
    NAVAL UNDERSEA WARFARE CENTER 300.00
    RETIRED MILITARY 130.00
    U.S. ARMY 1,775.00
    U.S ARMY CIVILIAN 525.00
    U.S. GOV'T/COAST GUARD 1,000.00
    U.S. MARINE CORPS 250.00
    U.S. NAVY 815.00
    UNITED STATE MARINE CORPS 425.00
    UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 1,750.00
    UNITED STATES ARMY 550.00
    UNITED STATES COAST GUARD 250.00
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 300.00
    US AIR FORCE 802.00
    US ARMY 3,025.00
    US DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 755.00
    US DEPT. OF DEFENSE 250.00
    US MARINE CORPS 250.00
    US NAVY 3,155.00
    USAF 1,600.00
    USAFR 225.00
    USN 825.00
    VI NATIONAL GUARD 400.00

    Total $28833.99
    Last edited by Lafayette; 07-17-2011 at 12:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    Went over the numbers for Paul again. I used independentnc's numbers (removed donations from DVA) and double checked my own.

    ...


    Ill update the OP.
    +rep - GREAT job! Thanks
    Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.

    What others do pales beside what YOU do.

    Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...

    "Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

    ~ C.Coolidge

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    I just noticed this thread has over 14,500 views. Good work!
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    Went over the numbers for Paul again. I used independentnc's numbers (removed donations from DVA) and double checked my own.

    ARMY 554.50
    ARMY RESERVE 201.20
    DEFENSE DEPT 244.32
    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 701.20
    DEPARTMENT OF NAVY 250.00
    DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE 227.60
    DEPT ARMY 100.00
    DEPT OF DEFENSE 1,000.00
    DOD 1,869.60
    DOD - US NAVY 400.00
    INDIANA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 100.00
    MILITARY 1,452.40
    NAVY 50.00
    NEVADA AIR NATIONAL GUARD 250.00
    U S NAVY 250.00
    UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 451.20
    UNITED STATES ARMY 302.20
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 301.20
    UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS / GSSC 329.00
    UNITED STATES MILITARY 380.00
    UNITED STATES NAVY 2,877.80
    US AIR FORCE 3,026.32
    US AIRFORCE 212.00
    US ARMY 11,057.44
    US ARMY RETIRED 201.20
    US COAST GUARD 451.20
    US MILITARY 551.20
    US NAVY 2,320.28
    US NAVY RESERVE 801.20
    USAF 3,051.28
    USAF (RETIRED) 226.20
    USCG 137.74
    USMC 713.61
    USN 1,201.20
    USNR 500.00

    Total $36739.79


    Ill update the OP.
    Is NAVY $500? only donations of $200 or more would be listed so $50 would be... not possible? Just double checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrambleLight View Post
    Is NAVY $500? only donations of $200 or more would be listed so $50 would be... not possible? Just double checking.
    $50.00 is what it shows on the FEC site, now it may be a mistake on their part but im just going by the info they provide.

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    First I put it here: http://www.maresco.us/news/ron-paul-...dates-combined. Will start work on the next one (am looking for the post that compared Paul vs. Obama PAC donations, have searched once, didn't see it. Can someone please post that if they know where it is, I'll need that for the next write up, Thanks)
    Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.

    What others do pales beside what YOU do.

    Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...

    "Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

    ~ C.Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I just noticed this thread has over 14,500 views. Good work!
    Wow. Reckon this thread is getting linked-to?
    If something bad happens, we will be blamed. If something good happens, we will get no credit. If nothing happens, we will be forgotten.

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    This is awesome. Romney raised 4X as much money as Paul, yet Paul raised more from members of the military. This is because the four wars are pointless, and American troops now it!

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