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    New study says New Hampshire and South Dakota are the freest states; meanwhile, New York and New Jersey are the least free.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hamps...ry?id=13791773

    Live free or die? New Hampshire may be on to something, according to researchers at George Mason University's Mercatus Center.

    They used a variety of statistics to rank the 50 states for their just-published report on which states are the freest -- and least free -- from taxes and government regulation.

    Their horserace has ranked New York as the "least free state in the Union" followed by neighboring New Jersey. New Hampshire and South Dakota were in a virtual tie for most "free" state. ...
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    Freedom is also good for you health.

    NH ranks six in greatest life expectancy by state.

    http://www.npr.org/news/specials/longevity/


    Good for your personal safety:

    NH has lowest US violent crime rate:

    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nhcrime.htm


    Good for your economic well being:

    NH has third lowest unemployment rate nationwide.

    http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm


    Freedom works, it's good for your body, mind, soul and bank account, statism kills, physically and psychologically.

    It's no more difficult than that.

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    God damnitt I can't wait to move to NH.

    High fucking property taxes though. But that's bout it. The benefits farrr outweigh this (no income tax, no sales tax, no capital gains tax, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentient Void View Post
    God damnitt I can't wait to move to NH.

    High fucking property taxes though. But that's bout it. The benefits farrr outweigh this (no income tax, no sales tax, no capital gains tax, etc).
    Search closely my brother.

    NH property taxes can vary widely by town. http://www.nh.gov/revenue/munc_prop/...elatedData.htm

    Mine just went down, again, for the fourth year in a row.

    And for what I have, land and home, I guarantee I'm paying half of what you would be in Mass. especially in the Boston area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentient Void View Post
    God damnitt I can't wait to move to NH.

    High fucking property taxes though. But that's bout it. The benefits farrr outweigh this (no income tax, no sales tax, no capital gains tax, etc).
    I'm sure this new immigration law will destroy my business. When it does, I'm heading that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaAla View Post
    New study says New Hampshire and South Dakota are the freest states; meanwhile, New York and New Jersey are the least free.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hamps...ry?id=13791773
    I live in NY in the burbs and travel in rural parts of the state also. I can say first hand that it is a police state here. You cannot go anywhere, even a hike in the woods or throwing a line in along the Hudson river without the police looking over your shoulder. There is so many police wherever you turn it is like they are a standing army. Despite the reputation NYC gets, the suburban and rural areas I speak of there is not much crime or anything for the police to do to warrant such a heavy presence. DWI road blocks are common. One weekend I went through 5 different road blocks.

    We also have the highest property taxes in US and the world. So no one really owns property here. For example you can expect to find the lower Hudson Valley homeowners charged on average a $1000 a month or more in property taxes. Much of this is for the public schools of course in this Democratic party dominated state. We have the highest paid teachers in the country and some of the schools are like palaces. There are several Socialists parties that run the same candidates as the Democrat party and you have the Republican party which is about as Socialist. There is a Conservative party that essentially runs the same Socialists that the Republicans do. The Conservative party also has some scary authoritarian police state stuff in their platform.

    Despite NY having a reputation of being very liberal it is really only the politics of NYC, Albany and Buffalo that ruins the state. Immigration plays a huge role in keeping the state Democratic. Probably a little bit of voter fraud going on to boot. I and my friends have seen the fraud first hand with being switched to the Democrat against our will and having to complain to the board of elections.
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    The actual report is here, http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011 It includes information about all 50 states, a video, a ranking list and even a pdf version of the publication.

    And NH is getting freer this year with several pro-liberty bills having already passed:
    NH passes HB 544 the Knife Preemption Law http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Preemption-Law
    NH House passes HB 651 to relegalize Quaker Parrots in NH http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-Parrots-in-NH
    NH House passes bill to eliminate the gambling tax http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...e-gambling-tax
    Evergreen law repealed in NH http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...repealed-in-NH

    With many, many more bills still being debated or waiting for the Governor to act.
    Last edited by Keith and stuff; 06-09-2011 at 01:58 PM.

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    Dang. Texas is only in the middle...

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    Oklahoma, a state which has some of the best concealed carry laws, and the best homeschool laws, in the nation, is not ranked as highly as Indiana, the first state to simply write off the Fourth Amendment. Why? Because you can't buy liquor in a drug store in Oklahoma?

    Somebody's criteria on this thing is, well, certainly not my criteria.
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    I'm planning on moving to New Hampshire once I graduate
    "Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie

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