Herman Cain - Expose His Fed and TARP Links Before his Momentum Builds!

[Anti Federalist]

I sometimes read FreeRepublic for the LOLs and they are creaming themselves over Cain. It is unreal, if you are bored go to FR and type in Cain on the search function and read the hundreds of comments.

I just think he will get a lot of free promotion and this will help his popularity a lot

Makes sense.

Cain, like Freepers, talk about standing up for the Constitution and abiding by it.

They only want to talk about the parts they like.

That's why a man like Dr. Paul infuriates both "left" and "right".

[BlackTerrel]

I sometimes read FreeRepublic for the LOLs and they are creaming themselves over Cain. It is unreal, if you are bored go to FR and type in Cain on the search function and read the hundreds of comments.

It's easy on the internet to get lost in the "hundreds of posts". I doubt even 0.1% of Americans post on FreeRepublic. It's not so representative.

I just think he will get a lot of free promotion and this will help his popularity a lot

http://news.google.com/news/search?a...%22ron+paul%22

http://news.google.com/news/search?a...herman+cain%22

Ron Paul is getting about 4 times more free publicity than Herman Cain in the MSM. Don't buy the hype.

[Liberty Shark]

Initially, the biggest threat is Bachmann. Not that she'll get more votes, but that she'll take Iowa straw poll votes Ron might otherwise get, slowing his momentum. Cain is infuriating because he is a fraud. I dislike Bachmann's Patriot Act vote, and she's a nonstarter to me because of that, but I don't despise her actively the same way I do someone who is pretending to be someone he isn't, someone like Ron on the fed, when he is really a central banker's dream.

Exactly. I've been trying to explain that to people.
A potential Bachmann candidacy, avoiding any major gaffes, should do extremely well in Iowa, especially with Huckabee out.
The interesting thing about Bachmann is that I haven't heard her say too much on foreign policy. Is she an airhead like Palin, who will get brainwashed by neocon advisors? Or is she a total neocon already?

Also, that Ames straw poll is gonna be the absolute key for RP. If the supporters can't win it, or at least come in second, then we have a serious problem to say the least.

As for Cain, its hard to tell at this point because there aren't any reliable polls out recently. Obviously there are some establishment people from somewhere (Koch?) pushing this guy, judging by the front-runner type treatment Fox gave him at the first debate. And I'm not talking just about the focus-fraud group, but also the fact that he received many more questions than RP at the debate.

[sailingaway]

It's easy on the internet to get lost in the "hundreds of posts". I doubt even 0.1% of Americans post on FreeRepublic. It's not so representative.



http://news.google.com/news/search?a...%22ron+paul%22

http://news.google.com/news/search?a...herman+cain%22

Ron Paul is getting about 4 times more free publicity than Herman Cain in the MSM. Don't buy the hype.

Not if you just make it last 24 hours, but it is the quality that is the big gap. Cain is going to be on Huckabee's show, AND is on Wallace this weekend like Ron, and I bet he doesn't get the same kind of questions about drugs and getting rid of social security. For the primary audience, that is more quality exposure.

However, I think Cain isn't going to be our big problem because I think he is a fraud and it will be discovered.

[HarryBrowneLives]

Exactly. I've been trying to explain that to people.
A potential Bachmann candidacy, avoiding any major gaffes, should do extremely well in Iowa, especially with Huckabee out.
The interesting thing about Bachmann is that I haven't heard her say too much on foreign policy. Is she an airhead like Palin, who will get brainwashed by neocon advisors? Or is she a total neocon already?

Also, that Ames straw poll is gonna be the absolute key for RP. If the supporters can't win it, or at least come in second, then we have a serious problem to say the least.

As for Cain, its hard to tell at this point because there aren't any reliable polls out recently. Obviously there are some establishment people from somewhere (Koch?) pushing this guy, judging by the front-runner type treatment Fox gave him at the first debate. And I'm not talking just about the focus-fraud group, but also the fact that he received many more questions than RP at the debate.

I'd be willing to bet that the Koch brothers have a hand in this. I know they have been having Cain speak at some astroturfed Tea Party events that they helped pay for. I've despise the Koch guys for years. This kinda stuff is like a game to them. If the Koch brothers are in any way involved with a candidate ... don't walk away ...RUN!

But, despite all the astroturf, Cain's not going anywhere and will have a lot of trouble getting above the primary noise after his few minutes of fame, raising enough money to keep up in the long run, etc.

I agree with some of the other posters ... the only one's that have a real chance to be left alive politically viabale by Super Tuesday will hypothetically be Ron, Bachmann (IF), Romney, Palin (IF) ...maybe somebody like a TPAW (maybe) or Daniels (because he's go the ole Busch team to help) to fill that slot in the primary. Flip a coin on those two. This is a marathon not a sprint. That's your ballgame right there.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Cain has won a couple TP straw polls now, and he's cutting into the territory we should be taking. I don't have faith in teaocons seeing through his BS. They will likely take his words at face value, especially since he is getting a big push by TPTB.

[cindy25]

Cain is not going to win anything; he is not a serious threat; TPTB want him on stage to show GOP not racist (remember Alan Keyes)

he is a prop. concentrate on Bachmann, she is the threat.

[speciallyblend]

No WE CAIN'T

[speciallyblend]

I'd be willing to bet that the Koch brothers have a hand in this. I know they have been having Cain speak at some astroturfed Tea Party events that they helped pay for. I've despise the Koch guys for years. This kinda stuff is like a game to them. If the Koch brothers are in any way involved with a candidate ... don't walk away ...RUN!

But, despite all the astroturf, Cain's not going anywhere and will have a lot of trouble getting above the primary noise after his few minutes of fame, raising enough money to keep up in the long run, etc.

I agree with some of the other posters ... the only one's that have a real chance to be left alive politically viabale by Super Tuesday will hypothetically be Ron, Bachmann (IF), Romney, Palin (IF) ...maybe somebody like a TPAW (maybe) or Daniels (because he's go the ole Busch team to help) to fill that slot in the primary. Flip a coin on those two. This is a marathon not a sprint. That's your ballgame right there.

the more i see your posts. The more i wish Harry Browne was here today

[Napoleon's Shadow]

However, I fully think he may start strong, as trump did, but the TARP bit is going to destroy it.

Some, not all, but some of the tea partiers have bought into his talking point that "well I didn't know what it was before it was implemented, and I had a problem with how it was implemented"

[Napoleon's Shadow]

Cain is not going to win anything; he is not a serious threat; TPTB want him on stage to show GOP not racist (remember Alan Keyes)

he is a prop. concentrate on Bachmann, she is the threat.

But, despite all the astroturf, Cain's not going anywhere and will have a lot of trouble getting above the primary noise after his few minutes of fame, raising enough money to keep up in the long run, etc.

Well though, like Huckabee or Fred, he might be the guy who takes votes away from Ron thus allowing a neocon like Romney to win. Remember Cain and Romney were somewhat chummy there for a while, Cain even endorsed him. In fact, it wouldn't suprise me at all i f there was some sort of unspoken deal going on where Cain is in the race simply to stop Ron or the others from gaining traction so that Romney can pull a victory. Remember, Fred was only in the race to ensure that Huckabee went no where; McCain won as a result.

So no, I don't think Cain can win the nomination, but he might prevent Ron from winning it.

[Napoleon's Shadow]

Not your job. And it didn't work last time. I made a "why McCain sucks" flyer last time, and McCain still won.

As was pointed out putting a "sucks" flyer out isn't going to be good enough, you have to know your audience and talk to them on their level.


But the only people who are apt to support Cain at this point in time are the tea partiers. Fortunately they all have e-mail lists and spread and forward e-mails all of the time. If you have been doing your job over the last couple of years then you have been getting yourself embedded within these groups. This means that now you can politely point out the the negatives of supporting Herman Cain to these people and hopefully they will listen.

Isn't part of the strategy this time to wait and listen to instructions. To actually act like a campaign volunteer, and help the campaign do what the campaign wants to do?

Of course, but getting yourself trained on political strategy (via the CFL perhaps) is what you should've been doing too. That way you have a better idea on how you can be effective on the local level. The CFL didn't bring in all of these experienced guys to train everyone because they all want foot soldiers. They did it so that people could be largely autonomous and given guidance on local politics. It's about empowerment.

So no it is not quite time to go door-to-door for Ron yet, but you should already be plugged into your local political scene. Even if you aren't a player yourself, you should at least know who the players are. That in itself will make you very effective when it comes time for action.

Yeah, the point is to not attack them and their chosen candidate, but simply slip in the evidence and allow them to make their own decision on the matter. Attacking their man will turn people off to what you're trying to communicate. Unfortunately, sometimes I can't help but point out the guy is crooked.

Yes it has to be done carefully. But it does need to be done swiftly and hard before Cain can pick up any more momentum.

If we can get Cain's negatives spread around so far (specifically his support for the bailouts and endorsement of Romney) ideally to the tea party crowd, then we will gain a tremendous advantage. But we must do it before these people decide upon him, latch on, and become emotionally entrenched and thus irrational which I fear is starting to happen already. Most of the teaocons don't care or understand that much about The Fed. However they DO care about the bailouts and if they know that Cain supported the bailouts and has quasi-flip-flopped on them then they will be a lot less skeptical of him. Right now their guard is down.

[Paul4Prez]

I'm only slightly more worried about Herman Cain than I am about Top Tier Tim Pawlenty, which is to say, not very much. Romney is the biggest threat, really, the only one right now.

[KingRobbStark]

I'm the biggest threat.

[HarryBrowneLives]

the more i see your posts. The more i wish Harry Browne was here today

I thank you for that. Harry was a great person. He lived close to me during and after the 2000 campaign in Franklin, TN just outside of Nashville. One of the most original thinkers ... maybe the most ... the libertarian movement ever had. Brilliant man. My avatar is a tribute to his memory.

[HarryBrowneLives]

Well, newswires say Daniels is out so I can scratch him off the list. I guess the Bush Team will hafta find a new pal. Boy, the neocons are scrambling these days.

[LisaNY]

Well, newswires say Daniels is out so I can scratch him off the list. I guess the Bush Team will hafta find a new pal. Boy, the neocons are scrambling these days.

WOW! I was getting really nervous about him for some reason. Would he make a good vp for Ron?

[speciallyblend]

Well, newswires say Daniels is out so I can scratch him off the list. I guess the Bush Team will hafta find a new pal. Boy, the neocons are scrambling these days.

I see the gop as the only hurdle to a Ron Paul nomination!! They can Win with Ron Paul but they are fighting to elect obama unless they nominate Ron Paul. If i can see it? Why can't they??

[HarryBrowneLives]

I see the gop as the only hurdle to a Ron Paul nomination!! They can Win with Ron Paul but they are fighting to elect obama unless they nominate Ron Paul. If i can see it? Why can't they??

With this cast of clowns as is its Ron in 12 or Obama and Rand in 16 ... answer is ... they don't want to ... they want to continue to believe the fantasy that Rule The World Productions can still win elections. America's middle has left the building on that issue and they're still standing at the party with the punch bowl waiting for their dates to arrive.

[ronpaulitician]

I thank you for that. Harry was a great person. He lived close to me during and after the 2000 campaign in Franklin, TN just outside of Nashville. One of the most original thinkers ... maybe the most ... the libertarian movement ever had. Brilliant man. My avatar is a tribute to his memory.

I have to admit that "Liberty A-Z" was a better (and easier) read than Liberty Defined.

And I still hope Paul writes an article similar to Harry Browne's The president's first day in office. He somewhat did in Plan for a freedom president, but I really think he could show everyone just what his prioritiies are by telling us what he would do on day 1.

[rawful]

No joke, I had a nightmare last night that Herman Cain won the NBA Slam Dunk contest. lol

[wgadget]

We should be sure to hit the big national papers, times, post, financial times, usa today, etc.

Yes, and the Iowa papers, too. I wouldn't mention Ron, just point out the facts about this guy that TPTB are ignoring.

[wgadget]

And another thing....Cain is obviously going after the Tea Party fundamentalist neocon Christians that Huckabee would have garnered, judging by his rhetoric. Pretty big group.

[angelatc]

Some, not all, but some of the tea partiers have bought into his talking point that "well I didn't know what it was before it was implemented, and I had a problem with how it was implemented"

Breaks my heart.

[angelatc]

With this cast of clowns as is its Ron in 12 or Obama and Rand in 16 ... answer is ... they don't want to ... they want to continue to believe the fantasy that Rule The World Productions can still win elections. America's middle has left the building on that issue and they're still standing at the party with the punch bowl waiting for their dates to arrive.

That's just it. Seeing the TEA Party suddenly decide that TARP was ok, it was just implemented wrong has got to be pleasing the old guard GOP to no end.

[FrankRep]

Herman Cain, an Exposé of his Statist, Unconstitutional Positions

Former Federal Reserve insider Herman Cain, being touted by various media outlets as a “Tea Party favorite,” officially announced on May 21 that he would be seeking the 2012 Republican nomination for President.

Fed Insider Herman Cain Announces 2012 Bid


Alex Newman | The New American
22 May 2011

[libertygrl]

Since we don't have the power that the media does, we should immediately jump into action whenever we start to see FAUX NEWS crowning a candidate as "THE GUY" by the use of internet forums. Maybe even sign up now and become a regular to some conservative/Republican/Tea Party political forums. We don't have to bash Cain or tell people we're Ron Paul supporters at first. I've been posting on my local Tea Party forum since last year. I started posting alternative media articles and having discussions. Even though it got heated at times, I developed a connection with these people to where they actually enjoyed the information I provided because it wasn't being reported in the MSM. I started posting Ron Paul articles as well and many of them came over to some of his positions.

Make connections with people so that they start to trust you and don't feel like your a troll. It's worked for me. But always be RESPECTFUL & COURTEOUS. Even when you feel like pulling your hair out at times! Believe me, you'll get a lot of converts that way. Here are the links. We should start posting this information immediately:

Herman Cain praised TARP bailouts, chided "free market":
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...-market-purist
http://www.unitedliberty.org/article...ut-herman-cain

Herman Cain supports big-government liberal Republican Mitt Romney:
http://classic-web.archive.org/web/2....com/hc098.htm

Herman Cain Tries to Be "Outsider" But Is Really A Political Establishment Insider:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011...de-status.html

Herman Cain supported the bailouts:
http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm
http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc129.htm
http://www.newworldradical.com/2011/...rman-cain.html

Herman Cain doesn't think the Federal Reserve should be audited (he's a former Fed chair himself):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAke...layer_embedded

Herman Cain has flip-flopped on the issue of the Federal Reserve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caeNX...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Mqi...layer_embedded

Herman Cain doesn't think the Federal Reserve should be audited but yet the Fed bailed out foreign banks, including Libya (Col. Gaddafi):
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gues...ost-from-feds-...

More secrets about the Federal Reserve recently discovered that Herman Cain doesn't think the American People should know:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...rs-secret.html

What else is the Federal Reserve hiding from the People that Herman Cain doesn't want people to know:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2009/0...52624P20090308

CONCLUSION?
Herman Cain is a Federal Reserve apologist, an establishment opportunist, and big-government RINO politician who puts bankers first and Americans last.

[FrankRep]

Since we don't have the power that the media does, ...

Help spread this article far and wide. Hit all the Tea Party and Republican groups!

Fed Insider Herman Cain Announces 2012 Bid
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/pol...unces-2012-bid

[ An Exposé of the Statist, Unconstitutional Positions of Herman Cain ]

[doodle]

harmless thing

link

[BlackTerrel]

No joke, I had a nightmare last night that Herman Cain won the NBA Slam Dunk contest. lol

That's odd