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No we do not. We need a president who supports the United States of America. What you said there is solely a talking point of the far religious right and it is a cancer upon American politics and foreign policy. It is absolutely absurd to make the affairs of another nation x1,000 miles away in another hemisphere a priority above our own. Turn off Glenn Beck and tune in to reality.
Last edited by COpatriot; 06-03-2011 at 07:34 PM.
I'm a little confused here.
Would those people just say "Jews are planning to attack?" Seems more proper to say "The Jews are planning to attack."
During WWII, would the people of the United States have said "The Japanese are planning to attack." Or would they have said "Japanese are planning to attack."?
I have trouble seeing how it would be more proper to say "the Jews" in your first example if it were really just some Jews and not all Jews. I can't see any explanation for saying it with "the" that's not anti-semitic.
I also wouldn't take the typical American mindset of the 1940s as an example of how not to be racially prejudiced. The reason they managed to justify in their minds the idea of putting innocent Japanese Americans in internment camps was that they thought they were at war with "the Japanese" instead of just Japan.
Last edited by erowe1; 06-03-2011 at 08:00 PM.
I think Israel may be better off under the European sphere of influence than America. Whether we like it or not, America's empire is certainly not going to last forever, due to our poor economic decisions at home. Israel learning not to be reliant on America could be the greatest thing to happen to it.
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The Israeli government would wipe out the Palestinians if they could. Does that count? Also, Israel's game is stealing land. They took Golan Heights because the Syrians had an advantage from a high position to attack Israel. Now, the Israelis are claiming that they cannot return the land they stole in the West Bank because it would allow the Palestinians to fire rockets at Israelis from a much shorter distance. Steal land, then claim it is done in the name of "national security". Cram all the Palestinians into Gaza and then poison them. If the Israelis can treat their neighbors this way, what would prevent them from treating anybody and everybody this way if it is to their benefit?
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Mr. Davis, Ron Paul has nothing to do with this website, and never has. It was started by a grassroots supporter before the last election.
Ron Paul's message of peace, liberty and prosperity attracts supporters from across the political spectrum and I can assure you that forum members often do not agree on a variety of things.
Dr. Paul's stance is that the U.S. government should not be giving foreign aid to any country. This is in keeping with the stance of our Founding Fathers. Read George Washington's Farewell Address where he warned us not to entangle alliances.
Are you sure that our current foreign policy is beneficial to Israel? Think about it for a minute, the way it stands now, the U.S. government gives aid to Israel and also to Israel's enemies. To keep getting that aid, Israel has to ask our government's permission before they defend themselves. How is this in Israel's best interest?
Dr. Paul wants Israel to be able to act in their own self-interest and make those decisions for themselves what they need to do to defend her. In addition, nothing is stopping any and all U.S. citizens, such as yourself, to send your own money to Israel.
If you stop and think about it sir, I think you will see that Dr. Paul is much more of a friend to Israel than those who have and are arming her enemies and forcing Israel to ask permission before they defend their own country.
In the end, the United States and Israel are two separate countries and the U.S. government's duty has to be to the United States.
Note: You may want to visit www.campaignforliberty.com. That is an organization founded by Ron Paul.
Last edited by LibertyEagle; 06-06-2011 at 11:51 AM.
LibertyEagle, I'm in agreement with you.
have you been folowing the news lately?Israel is the only democracy in the the Middle East
and what difference does Israel being a democracy make? Apartheid South Africa was ahead of most of it's neighbors in many ways and more "Western". It's a property issue. The arabs who had been there for the preceding 18 CENTURIES never agreed to zionism.
Israeli Zionists and economists agree with Rand Paul and Ron Paul that US Foreign Aid is bad for Israel.
Israeli Economists Agree with Rand Paul: End Foreign Aid
Daniel Sayani | The New American
07 February 2011
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Ron Paul says we should not take sides in Israel's wars and we get blowback for supporting Israel. He goes on to say Palestinians are living in concentration camp like conditions and mostly unarmed facing a strong Israeli military. Ron Paul says American weapons and funds are being used in Israel's killing of Palestinians and US has moral responsibility.
If that is supporting Israel, whole America should be Israel's supporter.
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