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Thread: So I was playing poker with a Iraqi vet....

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    So I was playing poker with a Iraqi vet....

    And he started bragging about neing disabled. He says that he had hurt his back and was collecting 3K per month disability. Then he goes on to say that he is fine and added that he brings in an additional 2K in California unemployment. I watched him run around and he did look undamaged. This guy rakes in 5K every month tax free....he said he was 28 and would collect this for life. Makes me hope for a US bankruptcy....and laughing about it.

    And to top it off there is a young guy in a wheelchair playing on our same table....definatley disabled.

    F#@k!
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    Damn that sucks.
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    $3k per month means he's getting 100% disability. This probably includes ringing of the ears and PTSD, in addition to whatever back injury he claimed. If you think it's clearly a bogus claim, you can always report fraud to the VA.

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    He will get what he deserves, soon enough.
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.

  6. #5
    Get his running around on camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctb619 View Post
    $3k per month means he's getting 100% disability. This probably includes ringing of the ears and PTSD, in addition to whatever back injury he claimed. If you think it's clearly a bogus claim, you can always report fraud to the VA.
    Yea sure....thanks for the info.

    Most folks on this board have ptsd
    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
    James Madison

    "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams



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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    Yea sure....thanks for the info.

    Most folks on this board have ptsd

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctb619 View Post
    $3k per month means he's getting 100% disability. This probably includes ringing of the ears and PTSD, in addition to whatever back injury he claimed. If you think it's clearly a bogus claim, you can always report fraud to the VA.
    Exactly. I'll be willing to bet that his backinjury accounts for 100% of his disability. He probably doesn't want to share the real cause for his percentage. All the same, it's obscene.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctb619 View Post
    PTSD from being abused by government for so long. At least, that's what I had taken it to mean.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

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    Just a sign of the times puppet. What is utterly amazing is that the ponzi society has been able to be propped up so long. I just can't figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    PTSD from being abused by government for so long. At least, that's what I had taken it to mean.
    +1
    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
    James Madison

    "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams



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    Actually, I have wondered what the psychological effects of living under oppression would be. Think about how crazy our society is; is it natural, or is it the result of years of indoctrination, violence, and oppression?
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Actually, I have wondered what the psychological effects of living under oppression would be. Think about how crazy our society is; is it natural, or is it the result of years of indoctrination, violence, and oppression?
    Both: A Natural result of the oppression?
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    Both: A Natural result of the oppression?
    *mind blown*

    ....I bet someone even had a double rainbow experience:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan4Life View Post
    *mind blown*

    ....I bet someone even had a double rainbow experience:
    I've seen quite a number of double rainbows.

    Yet I can't say I've ever had that reaction before.
    "Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Actually, I have wondered what the psychological effects of living under oppression would be. Think about how crazy our society is; is it natural, or is it the result of years of indoctrination, violence, and oppression?
    The psychological effects are extreme in my opinion. Don't you feel it?

    I mean, let's just take the current situation -- regardless of what did, or did not, actually happen, the current line of thought on OBL is:
    if you do not believe the ever changing gov't story without evidence, you are a conspiracy theorist.
    if you insist on evidence, then you are a crazy conspiracy theorist that will not believe evidence anyway.
    this 'logic' is then used to justify not providing evidence -- since anyone sane already believes it to be true, and anyone who doesn't will reject any and all proof anyway, there is no need to provide proof.

    and this is the narrative being spun across all media... the same media filled with "journalists" who are supposed to be hard hitting truth seekers. yet they gleefully 'update' the story with whatever the latest adjustment is.

    this is no different that being forced to believe 2+5 = 5.
    over and over again.
    2+2=5
    or you are crazy.
    2+2=5
    or you are insane.

    but if you admit 2+2=5, if you accept it, then you are sane again. you will no longer be an outsider. you will no longer be marginalized.
    sad state of affairs. it's hard to hold on.

    and that's not even getting into the psychological impact that has created a populace that is actually -resistant- to being show evidence to prove what they already believe to be true.



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    Last time I played poker with an Iraq vet, the guy would smoke cigarettes, and put them out by snuffing the cig on his arm or hands giving himself a third degree burn each time he did it...and doing it multiple times.

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    The military does crazy stuff to people... rightly so, many of them are crazy. I don't know of a single sane person making it out of basic after 2001. Those of you who know what I am talking about knows this.... That being said, the whole 100% disabled thing is hard to believe. Report him if he is not physically disabled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    Yea sure....thanks for the info.

    Most folks on this board have ptsd
    Nah , no ptsd for me ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan4Life View Post
    *mind blown*

    ....I bet someone even had a double rainbow experience:
    I like rainbows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Nah , no ptsd for me ....
    Wouldn't admit it, even if I did have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by affa View Post
    The psychological effects are extreme in my opinion. Don't you feel it?

    I mean, let's just take the current situation -- regardless of what did, or did not, actually happen, the current line of thought on OBL is:
    if you do not believe the ever changing gov't story without evidence, you are a conspiracy theorist.
    if you insist on evidence, then you are a crazy conspiracy theorist that will not believe evidence anyway.
    this 'logic' is then used to justify not providing evidence -- since anyone sane already believes it to be true, and anyone who doesn't will reject any and all proof anyway, there is no need to provide proof.

    and this is the narrative being spun across all media... the same media filled with "journalists" who are supposed to be hard hitting truth seekers. yet they gleefully 'update' the story with whatever the latest adjustment is.

    this is no different that being forced to believe 2+5 = 5.
    over and over again.
    2+2=5
    or you are crazy.
    2+2=5
    or you are insane.

    but if you admit 2+2=5, if you accept it, then you are sane again. you will no longer be an outsider. you will no longer be marginalized.
    sad state of affairs. it's hard to hold on.

    and that's not even getting into the psychological impact that has created a populace that is actually -resistant- to being show evidence to prove what they already believe to be true.

    *nods like an obedient little slave, er citizen*

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    dont report your friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFPVet View Post
    The military does crazy stuff to people... rightly so, many of them are crazy. I don't know of a single sane person making it out of basic after 2001. Those of you who know what I am talking about knows this.... That being said, the whole 100% disabled thing is hard to believe. Report him if he is not physically disabled.
    Yeah, ok. turn on the other mundanes. What you should be doing is figuring out how to get SSI as well and maybe some insurance payments from your employers insurance. Drop a box on you foot, lift something with your left hand, and bam, you too can get free $$$$!



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    Quote Originally Posted by LibForestPaul View Post
    Yeah, ok. turn on the other mundanes. What you should be doing is figuring out how to get SSI as well and maybe some insurance payments from your employers insurance. Drop a box on you foot, lift something with your left hand, and bam, you too can get free $$$$!
    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    Yea sure....thanks for the info.

    Most folks on this board have ptsd

    Pssh, I don't think most folks have ptsd. They probably have Paranoid Personality disorder though..given some of the comments/posts around here.
    Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

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    As for the money he gets for free. Hell, I'd want money too if I signed up for the military thinking I was going to DEFEND the country and then got shipped off to some foreign country and almost killed.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by libertybrewcity View Post
    As for the money he gets for free. Hell, I'd want money too if I signed up for the military thinking I was going to DEFEND the country and then got shipped off to some foreign country and almost killed.
    I don't really think of ignorance as an excuse. We've known from day 1 the Iraq war was unjust and not in our own self defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarepusher View Post
    dont report your friend
    Agreed.

    Humans are competitive by nature and will take what they can get. Convincing people to work in a market that can barely be productive with all the taxes and regulations we have is not very attractive and makes it difficult to be self-reliant (since half your stuff is being taken). That doesn't mean he shouldn't try or that you can't have the discussion, in context you can show him how in a free society he probably wouldn't be taken care of to the extent that he is but could better take care of himself.. but reporting him and seeing the benefits disappear isn't going to really do anybody any good.
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    This is a poker game at a casino, no friends here. Dont know the guy and dont care to, but he is part of the problem. I have the soultion
    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
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