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This goes out to all those in this thread who helped spawn and inspire a new meme. Couldn't have done it without you. Thanks soundboard.
Last edited by Conza88; 03-30-2012 at 12:36 PM.
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
There's so many anarchistic undertones in those small selections alone.
If government is completely out of our lives, one could easily take this to mean it ought not to even exist. If government is not involved in anyone's lives at all, how can it exist, and for what purpose?keeping government out of our lives
Spontaneous order in absence of the State = a direct reference to anarchy.spontaneous order that emerges when the state does not intervene in human volition and human cooperation
So not even national defense or police protection.many people are deceived into believing that government can make them safe from all harm
Again, anarchist phraseology.monopoly on the use of force
Common anarchist argument against government and the State.history shows that that power will be abused. Every single time
Was there ever really any doubt? Aside from Statists trying to justify their world view by asserting the RP holds the same.
Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard
Just in case you missed it: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Private-Courts
I plan to edit sometime and add the other stuff he said about Spooner.
Question: "You're frequently an advocate for the Constitution. What are your thoughts of the Lysander Spooner statement: "But whether the Constitution really be one thing or another, this much is certain: that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
Ron Paul: "I'll tell you what: I don't criticize Lysander. His point is very well taken, and someday maybe we will mature to that point. His claim was that if he himself didn't agree to the Constitution, why should somebody in a remote body agree to the Constitution and he be pushed under it? It is a good idea, but under today's circumstances, I have to work with the best that we have. Because who knows, I might have been an anti-Federalist at the time the Constitution was being written. But fortunately we ended up with a good Constitution [at least tries to limit government], and our problem is more that we don't obey the good parts about it. I think it's a very interesting philosophic issue, and I hope that someday we mature enough to have that argument."
What if courts or PDAs become corrupt,criminal, etc?
Answering the Warring Defense Agencies Objection
Tom Woods Says Limited Government is an Oxymoron
The most important attempt in this century to rebut anarchism and to justify the State fails totally and in each of its parts.
Contract Law Explained in One Video
Anarcho-Capitalist Reference/FAQ List
Ignored: Xerographica+Travlyr.
Found this gem while reading through the Medical Care chapter:
Also fun is this, in the marriage section:In fact, the greater the importance of anything, the stronger the reason not to depend on a government redistributionist system. A government system of anything has a nearly perfect record of failure - whether it's stopping war, preserving liberty, guaranteeing sound money, or generating economic prosperity.
It is typical of how government intervention in social issues serves no useful purpose.
The epitome of libertarian populismOriginally Posted by Ron Paul
Bump.
Looky what I found:
http://www.theenc.org/img/print/RP&V.pdf
Haha, yep... lot of good work from those here in the forums have managed to find a lot of gems. Nicely put together.
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
LE, just for you
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
Originally Posted by Ron PaulHere he expresses the explicitly Rothbardian view that governments get away with initiating violence because of their perceived legitimatacy:Originally Posted by Ron Paul
(For the Rothbardian summary see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqo7XMkbtEk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpCy0gmWMCM )Originally Posted by Ron Paul
Here he echos Lysander Spooner:
( also see Ron Paul on Lysander Spooner here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQWz2zQ9OmI )Originally Posted by Ron Paul
Here he mentions three positions:
1. economic interventionism
2. social interventionism
3. voluntarism
Then rejects two of them.
Originally Posted by Ron PaulOriginally Posted by Ron Paul
Originally Posted by Ron Paul
What if courts or PDAs become corrupt,criminal, etc?
Answering the Warring Defense Agencies Objection
Tom Woods Says Limited Government is an Oxymoron
The most important attempt in this century to rebut anarchism and to justify the State fails totally and in each of its parts.
Contract Law Explained in One Video
Anarcho-Capitalist Reference/FAQ List
Ignored: Xerographica+Travlyr.
that is true.
ron did talk about the two choices... but had a government... but what was different in each example was the people.
a moral people will bring about a moral government.
a society of people that boo the golden rule produces the government we have today.
rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler
His entire speech today was a resounding advocacy of NAP and voluntaryism as far as I can tell.
Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard
This is actually a common anarchist argument in so many words: "The only good government is one comprised entirely of angels."
The reality is people are not angels, and some people are not moral. This will always hold true. So if everyone must be moral and everyone in the government must be an angel for 'good' government to exist, well... that strikes rather Utopian.
Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard
What if courts or PDAs become corrupt,criminal, etc?
Answering the Warring Defense Agencies Objection
Tom Woods Says Limited Government is an Oxymoron
The most important attempt in this century to rebut anarchism and to justify the State fails totally and in each of its parts.
Contract Law Explained in One Video
Anarcho-Capitalist Reference/FAQ List
Ignored: Xerographica+Travlyr.
Government Security is Just Another Kind of Violence. - Ron Paul
HMMMM, I wonder if anyone would interpret this headline as pro-government security?
http://paul.house.gov/index.php?opti...rticle&id=2037
What if courts or PDAs become corrupt,criminal, etc?
Answering the Warring Defense Agencies Objection
Tom Woods Says Limited Government is an Oxymoron
The most important attempt in this century to rebut anarchism and to justify the State fails totally and in each of its parts.
Contract Law Explained in One Video
Anarcho-Capitalist Reference/FAQ List
Ignored: Xerographica+Travlyr.
What if courts or PDAs become corrupt,criminal, etc?
Answering the Warring Defense Agencies Objection
Tom Woods Says Limited Government is an Oxymoron
The most important attempt in this century to rebut anarchism and to justify the State fails totally and in each of its parts.
Contract Law Explained in One Video
Anarcho-Capitalist Reference/FAQ List
Ignored: Xerographica+Travlyr.
Last edited by Cabal; 10-14-2013 at 10:01 AM.
Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard
What if courts or PDAs become corrupt,criminal, etc?
Answering the Warring Defense Agencies Objection
Tom Woods Says Limited Government is an Oxymoron
The most important attempt in this century to rebut anarchism and to justify the State fails totally and in each of its parts.
Contract Law Explained in One Video
Anarcho-Capitalist Reference/FAQ List
Ignored: Xerographica+Travlyr.
OMG... Ahahah... LE, where are you? How about Trav? Newbitech?
I'm waiting for all of your apologies, or to admit you were wrong.
It cannot literally get anymore clear than that video. You know who else was wrong? Stefan Molyneux.
Notice: Ron Paul is no longer running for office, this time he has NO issue accepting the label.
I prefer not to regardless, but that is his prerogative. Just wow... I mean, I knew it, we and others said it, it was always as clear as day... but to hear it again is so sweet.
Ron Paul... putting all of you in your intellectually strategically stunted places.
#overthetop #responseto4yearsofmindlessattacksfromStatist trollsheredenyingreality
Last edited by Conza88; 08-08-2014 at 08:24 PM.
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
It would appear from the latest video posted by Wesker that Ron Paul is, in fact a voluntarist, and is fine with the label of anarchist, so long as he can make it clear that the version of anarchism he is talking about is different than the violent, brick-throwing (leftist) version of anarchism.
So, libertygold, is Ron Paul "one of his haters"? A hater of himself?
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
Once he started broadcasting Ron Paul Channel he really began speaking a lot more bluntly.
I was pointing out various episodes as they were coming out (and people were whining that Ron Paul is not an anarcho-capitalist, or that the things people post here might drive away conservatives).
Klamath might remember all of the transcripts I typed and posted that would have been chastised had I made the exact same point.
https://www.facebook.com/Anarchast/?...7CS_mM&fref=nf
@LibertyEagle - what say you?
Last edited by Conza88; 08-22-2017 at 04:58 PM.
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
Can I get an answer - who changed the title of this thread?
It was: "Ron Paul re-confirms his voluntarism"
BTW
Not photo-shopped...
I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard. ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
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