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    the administration tells us pakistan is our friend, so why did we have to leave so quickly? many of the news sources are saying china is our enemy and they want this peice of the helicopter.....funny, I thought china is our friendly banker? Looks like our gov is setting up ww3.
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    From the video "...residents in the neighborhood say that right before the choppers went in all electricity and cell phone service went out and came immediately back on after the choppers left..."

    Some new EMP weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    From the video "...residents in the neighborhood say that right before the choppers went in all electricity and cell phone service went out and came immediately back on after the choppers left..."

    Some new EMP weapon?
    whoa...that's our taxpayer dollars right there folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    From the video "...residents in the neighborhood say that right before the choppers went in all electricity and cell phone service went out and came immediately back on after the choppers left..."

    Some new EMP weapon?
    Thats old tech with details all over the web on it. It has nothing to do with EMP's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Or when it is declared a "drug op", like at Waco.

    My point is that people are not "nuts" for reporting military "black helicopters" involved in regular, long standing, operations in US airspace.
    They are only nuts for thinking it is unusual and a thinking every black helicopter out there is out to get them and it is a special one world government army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    From the video "...residents in the neighborhood say that right before the choppers went in all electricity and cell phone service went out and came immediately back on after the choppers left..."

    Some new EMP weapon?
    Prolly just some kind of jamming device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    The Chinooks would have been loaded with all of the people and stuff going away. Not enough lift capacity immediately available to pull the wreck out, too. BTW, Pakistan and AFG are relatively high altitude countries, so helos have problems with the thinner air, and extra weight on them for SF use, adds to the problem.

    Every Blackhawk ride I went on in Europe was scary enough - no way would I want to ride in one in AFG.
    Did we scare you that bad You had the sense to know that your life was in danger, We always laughed over the intercom system as the PAXs were hooping and hollering having a good old time when they thought they were getting the A ride when in reality they had almost all died.

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    Running with the theme of not trusting the govt or the media, how do we know it wasnt planted by the govt to look like we really killed OBL? Or how do we know those shots of the helicopter werent staged?

    No I dont really believe that. Just throwing speculations out there. I love the anti-big govt stance on this board, I also appreciate how the people on this forum are not biased for one party or another. It is refreshing and consistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    From the video "...residents in the neighborhood say that right before the choppers went in all electricity and cell phone service went out and came immediately back on after the choppers left..."

    Some new EMP weapon?
    That story would conflict with the guy that lived in the neighborhood who was tweeting about the helicopters while they were there...hard to do if power and cell service is down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    They are only nuts for thinking it is unusual and a thinking every black helicopter out there is out to get them and it is a special one world government army.
    Why is that nuts?

    We are here discussing an operation of the de facto "One World Army".

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Did we scare you that bad You had the sense to know that your life was in danger, We always laughed over the intercom system as the PAXs were hooping and hollering having a good old time when they thought they were getting the A ride when in reality they had almost all died.
    So do you think that the US Helicopters are as reliable as they could/should be? Seems like they have too many failures in critical situations. Hopefully they are more reliable than the Windows operating system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    So do you think that the US Helicopters are as reliable as they could/should be? Seems like they have too many failures in critical situations. Hopefully they are more reliable than the Windows operating system...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    So do you think that the US Helicopters are as reliable as they could/should be? Seems like they have too many failures in critical situations. Hopefully they are more reliable than the Windows operating system...
    Helicopters are 200,000 parts flying in loose formation and when some parts start flying in a different formation they fail. We will probably never know but I suspect this was pilot error. He asked to much of the helicopter while flying at the very edge of the flight envelope. It is quit possible the Crewchief was watching for incoming fire and didn't call the tail clear of the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why is that nuts?

    We are here discussing an operation of the de facto "One World Army".
    Nope it was commanded by our elected CIC. If it was one world the Pakistani's would have had their place in the mission as they are part of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Nope it was commanded by our elected CIC. If it was one world the Pakistani's would have had their place in the mission as they are part of the world.
    They just haven't been assimilated yet. What do you think these 'wars' are all about? I'm pretty sure, right about now, the U.S. believes them (Pakistan) to be a useful tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Someone should be on soon to explain the "Black Helicopters" don't exist and are just tin foil hat imaginations.
    Dale always told Bill and Boomhower that those black helicopters existed... UN helicopters
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    It is quit possible the Crewchief was watching for incoming fire and didn't call the tail clear of the wall.
    That was my first thought at the picture with the tail section on the wrong side of the wall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Did we scare you that bad You had the sense to know that your life was in danger, We always laughed over the intercom system as the PAXs were hooping and hollering having a good old time when they thought they were getting the A ride when in reality they had almost all died.
    There was one case where one of the pilots lost his lunch - which I took as a warning sign, in addition to the fact that we were flying more up, down, sideways, and backwards than forward.

    When a UH-1 took off, there was much more of a feeling of power running through the airframe.

    In a Chinook, I'm thinking - this is a big slow moving target.

    Everybody in the military rationalizes their choices. The infantry guys think they can hide in a hole in the ground, the armor guys figure if the vehicle breaks, I've got some armor protection, or I can get out and walk, and then hide in a hole in the ground, if I have too. I don't know what rotor heads were thinking .......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    I don't know what rotor heads were thinking .......
    The same as the airmen in planes... "if this thing goes down, I'm screwed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That was my first thought at the picture with the tail section on the wrong side of the wall...
    Which side was the wrong side?

    Seems to me they were in the wrong country to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFPVet View Post
    The same as the airmen in planes... "if this thing goes down, I'm screwed".
    Everything is a tredeoff, you get to eat on plates and sleep in a cot or bed, based on the assumption that you are going to make it back to base.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger29860 View Post
    Thats old tech with details all over the web on it. It has nothing to do with EMP's
    Ok. Could you clue me in as to what it is?

    Quote Originally Posted by ihsv View Post
    Prolly just some kind of jamming device.
    Except that jamming devices usually jam wireless communications. This also jammed wired electricity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    They just haven't been assimilated yet. What do you think these 'wars' are all about? I'm pretty sure, right about now, the U.S. believes them (Pakistan) to be a useful tool.
    I have no illusions that a group of people want a one world government. Neocon and interventionist progressives are exactly that. From the begining of time certain leaders have invisioned themselves to know what was best for the whole world. Far too many of them believe the end justifies the means. ie "The war to end all wars,etc."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger29860 View Post
    Thats old tech with details all over the web on it. It has nothing to do with EMP's
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That story would conflict with the guy that lived in the neighborhood who was tweeting about the helicopters while they were there...hard to do if power and cell service is down.
    Hmmm..... http://www.kvia.com/osama-bin-laden/...57/detail.html

    Maybe this tweeter was out of jamming range? Regardless this could be a super low tech version of celldar.

    (Real celldar : http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oc...s.mobilephones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    There was one case where one of the pilots lost his lunch - which I took as a warning sign, in addition to the fact that we were flying more up, down, sideways, and backwards than forward.

    When a UH-1 took off, there was much more of a feeling of power running through the airframe.

    In a Chinook, I'm thinking - this is a big slow moving target.



    Everybody in the military rationalizes their choices. The infantry guys think they can hide in a hole in the ground, the armor guys figure if the vehicle breaks, I've got some armor protection, or I can get out and walk, and then hide in a hole in the ground, if I have too. I don't know what rotor heads were thinking .......
    You don't think about it too much. You don't want to think about how many components are absolutely critical to your life. You console yourself with the thought, "at least I don't have to sleep in a hole in the ground tonight"

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