Nationalism is nauseating
This gratuitous display of nationalism is beyond nauseating. Nationalism is of course defined as the worship of one's government, usually accompanied by an aggressive impulse toward other countries. Patriotism on the other hand is the love of one's people and land.
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I couldn't agree more. It makes me sick to my stomach.
Oh really? :collins: You have the option to leave the country then.
You're right Matt, many people don't know much about Patriotism.
No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.
Socialism with a Flag.
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Thank-you! That is what I thought... but did not think i could say, given I am not American. Vomit iconOriginally Posted by Matt Collins
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I really don't get it. How could you possibly be so emotionally connected like that? It's just weird, IMO.
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Were the celebrations on VE DAY patriotism or nationalism?
The mafia with a flag.
Nationalism, Socialism and Propaganda
Goebbels would be proud.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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It's all about Freedom
The US government had no legitimate excuse to being involved in either of the World Wars.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Even with us having war declared on us and being attacked in WWII?
I completely agree in regards to WWI, but what about WWII? We were attacked by Japan, and I remember hearing the Hitler declared war on us.
If the U.S. didn't enter WWI, WWII wouldn't have happened.
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Oh, yeah, getting bombed isn't a legitimate excuse.
I can understand VE and VJ day since everyone in the country was involved in the war. This fighting hasn't really effected us in quite the same way. We didn't have to ration, hundreds of thousands didn't die, daily life didn't stop. Life basically came to a stand still in WWII, it hasn't in this war.
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It's a bit too late to complain about that when you're getting bombed. At that point, you kind of just have to live with your mistakes and defend yourself.
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I don't disagree with that.
Celebrating an end of war and troops coming home.
I see neither of those happening today.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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It's all about Freedom
Hardly
WWII occurred because the British and French wanted to punish the Germans despite U.S. objections
Ok. Was it right to celebrate Hitler's death?
Well, it was blow back from the oil embargo but, I agree it was an act of war.
Last time I was at a base-ball game, and everyone got all religious during the national anthem, I felt like I was suddenly thrown in to a nut house. Its just creepy, and sad, and yeah.. nauseating..
Sorry if I'm turning anyone off by saying that, but you can always go to this thread to become red-white-and-aroused again.
matt, thanks for this message board. it does a heart good to see that all of America isn't filled with sheep waving American flags.
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"Celebrating an end of war and troops coming home. I see neither of those happening today. "
We have to make it happen because the people out there celebrating believe its happened and want it to happen. I have no problem celebrating OBL's death for what it can do to liberate the country's mindset from the fear its been under for the last 10 years. And with this mindset free from fear, perhaps RP can influence more people to say "It's over. We've won. Let's come home."
I agree with you. Like I said, when the bombs drop, you just have live with your mistakes and defend yourself. You shouldn't make those mistakes again, though.
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Yeah there was one huge $#@! who even released a statement:
“I commend our troops, the intelligence community, and the military leaders involved in both the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama for their perseverance and courage in pursuit of this most grievous enemy of the United States of America.”
What a tool whoever that is.
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"Celebrating an end of war and troops coming home. I see neither of those happening today. "
We have to make it happen because the people out there celebrating believe its happened and want it to happen. I have no problem celebrating OBL's death for what it can do to liberate the country's mindset from the fear its been under for the last 10 years. And with this mindset free from fear, perhaps RP can influence more people to say "It's over. We've won. Let's come home."
Speaking for nationalism in general, not necessarily toward the military, I don't think it is bad at all. Although I would like the country to be freer, I do take pride in the fact that I do live In one of the freest countries. Plus I love watching international sports and I love rooting for the USA!!
It is only temporary. It is only temporary. This will die down when people cannot afford to pay their bills.
It is only temporary. It is only temporary. This will die down when people cannot afford to pay their bills. Give it some time!
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