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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    They would if I could have gotten to it. It went over a 10 foot embankment at 2AM. I went back at first light and couldn't find it. Not that I could have done much, I've never cleaned a deer in my life. I'd be all...

    pointers-
    cut behind the knees of the hind legs, there is a tendon there with skin gaping toward the leg.
    this is where you will use hook(for each leg) and chain(rope). toss the chain over a tree branch and raise the deer.
    cut the skin in the creases, like leg pits, arm pits, around tail.
    once all seams are made, grab hold of hide and pull down.
    that will remove hide from the animal.
    afterwards, if the animal isn't field dressed- you should take a sharp hooked knife, starting the bottom(the bottom side of neck and cut up toward the breastplate.
    you will need a saw to cut the breastplate.
    from there, continue upwards until you can take all the innards at once and remove from deer. (some people will use a tub or bucket of some sort at the bottom to collect and dispose)
    from there, you are basically done. remove the head unless you are really hard up for food.
    quarter and store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    I started buying at $14 and I'd still be buying now if'n I could.
    Alas, I wasn't economically aware when it was $14/oz. What's more I wouldn't have had much money to buy with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Did they let you keep the meat? (Some states do- I have relatives in PA and they don't mind not having to clean up the carcass- or did is survive and get away?). That would help defray some of your costs with good meat to eat.
    Lol

    People make fun of WV because that's legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Thanks, and sorry about the guy from your town. Deer can certainly be deadly.

    I'm usually very good at avoiding them. I've only been hit by a deer once before in my life, and that was 23 years ago. And I didn't hit it, it hit me. In the side.

    This time, the thing jumped out of a ditch right in the middle of a hairy s-curve and went right in front of me. I slammed on the brakes as hard as I could, but my car has ABS. (I can stop faster WITHOUT ABS)

    Without ABS I might have managed to avoid it entirely, adding another half second before impact.

    But I hit this critter HARD. The deer went airborne and was doing a flat spin, launched off another 30 foot off the other side of the road and down the aforementioned embankment. It was pretty bad. And it's a lot of damage.

    If I were to go to a normal body shop, it'd cost me $4000 or better. Instead, I can get parts and do the work, and be back to normal for around $700

    But I did NOT want to sell $700 in silver when it's in a dip like it is now. So I sold just enough to do the mechanical repairs (headlights, hood) and I'll worry about the fenders later.
    I find that interesting. How does one stop faster without ABS? I had an '87 oldsmobile and the thing would slide at the smallest tap of the brakes no matter what the weather. My new Soob does a lot better with ABS.
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    Silver and gold moving up today. Was the bottom yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Silver and gold moving up today. Was the bottom yesterday?
    It's entirely possible. However, the Ron Rosen chart shows the low range for this move has until 6/30/13 to be made. The range for new highs to be made starts Sept '13 and runs through July '14. So we're getting damn close to the breakout starting. I'd guess this move should take silver to $100, then trade back down to $50 before the next move up to $100+. The Silver market will price many people out on this next move. Get it cheap while you still can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    I find that interesting. How does one stop faster without ABS? I had an '87 oldsmobile and the thing would slide at the smallest tap of the brakes no matter what the weather. My new Soob does a lot better with ABS.
    If you know how to modulate brakes properly you will always stop faster with regular brakes than ABS. That 87 Olds if fitted with ABS would have taken even longer to stop than using a proper brake modulation technique on non-ABS brakes.

    The problem you have is that electronic or hydraulic ABS use a 'theoretical' maximum rather than an 'actual' maximum, and ABS modulation is mechanical not intuitive.

    So in ABS your brake pressure goes to 90% max and then modulates precisely between 93% and 85% in quarter second intervals.

    Doing it PHYSICALLY on regular brakes you can take it up to 98% max and then modulate with your foot between 95% and 97% in random intervals dictated bu road traction and conditions.

    While it's true that someone who does not know how to do a proper emergency stop with regular brakes will always do worse than ABS, it is also true that someone who DOES know how to do a proper emergency stop with regular brakes will always outperform ABS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    If you know how to modulate brakes properly you will always stop faster with regular brakes than ABS. That 87 Olds if fitted with ABS would have taken even longer to stop than using a proper brake modulation technique on non-ABS brakes.

    The problem you have is that electronic or hydraulic ABS use a 'theoretical' maximum rather than an 'actual' maximum, and ABS modulation is mechanical not intuitive.

    So in ABS your brake pressure goes to 90% max and then modulates precisely between 93% and 85% in quarter second intervals.

    Doing it PHYSICALLY on regular brakes you can take it up to 98% max and then modulate with your foot between 95% and 97% in random intervals dictated bu road traction and conditions.

    While it's true that someone who does not know how to do a proper emergency stop with regular brakes will always do worse than ABS, it is also true that someone who DOES know how to do a proper emergency stop with regular brakes will always outperform ABS.
    How do you tell the difference between 95% and 97%? When do you use 95 and when do you use 97?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    How do you tell the difference between 95% and 97%? When do you use 95 and when do you use 97?
    You don't. Those were just examples. Who knows what the real numbers are. It's all seat of the pants, feeling, intuition, and experience.

    Ask anyone experienced at performance driving. I bet you they will all, or almost all say the exact same thing I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    You don't. Those were just examples. Who knows what the real numbers are. It's all seat of the pants, feeling, intuition, and experience.

    Ask anyone experienced at performance driving. I bet you they will all, or almost all say the exact same thing I am.
    Yep, I hate those dang ABS brakes. I don't know how many times they have gotten me into trouble. They drive me crazy. I hope I never get into an accident with someone over these things.

    I have tried to get them to stop their crap by pumping, doesn't work. I want my control back. And like you say, it's a "seat of the pants" thing with real brakes, but it works. Trying to tell someone who has never experienced using them well is like trying to tell a person that has never driven a stick shift how you know when to shift and use that other pedal.

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