Liberty Defined - Dr. Paul on Abortion

[White Bear Lake]

On Amazon, you can read the table of contents, introduction, and first chapter of Liberty Defined. The first chapter is on the topic of abortion:

http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Define...der_145550145X

Some really good stuff there.

I just ordered the book - can't wait for it to arrive!

(BTW, it's currently #48 in books and #4 in politics)

[tangent4ronpaul]

SHIT! - we just lost a ton of dem/independent support

[fisharmor]

SHIT! - we just lost a ton of dem/independent support

Probably, but not for the reason you are thinking.
I think the chapter could have been a lot more coherent. He does make some great points, but this particular chapter isn't pulling the grand argument together like he does normally.
I love him because he's convincing. He addresses the opposition, and constructs arguments for why that position isn't as good as the one he espouses.
I don't think he did - or generally does - as good a job with the topic of abortion as he does with, for instance, empire building.

[Sola_Fide]

SHIT! - we just lost a ton of dem/independent support

No. Dems/Independents might now wake up to true Liberty

[Krugerrand]

SHIT! - we just lost a ton of dem/independent support

There are a lot of pro-life democrats. Plus, they tend to also be the anti-war democrats. So - the issue helps with the DEMS he stand a chance of getting. The pro-abortion DEMS were never going to vote for him anyway.

[Lothario]

his argument is pretty reasonable - it's not easy for dem/independents to address and refute his arguments and remain unmoved.

[SWATH]

SHIT! - we just lost a ton of dem/independent support

Yes because true defenders of liberty champion our God given Constitutional right to extract an infant from the womb prematurely and place it in a bucket and pretend not to notice that it is crying and fighting to breathe, then after it suffocates to death, throw it in the trash.

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Yes because true defenders of liberty champion our God given Constitutional right to extract an infant from the womb prematurely and place it in a bucket and pretend not to notice that it is crying and fighting to breathe, then after it suffocates to death, throw it in the trash.

Now that just made me feel bad....

[FrankRep]

SHIT! - we just lost a ton of dem/independent support

Ron Paul, CPAC 2011 Straw Poll Winner


Flashback:

H.R.1094 - Sanctity of Life Act of 2007

Sponsor: Ron Paul

(1) human life shall be deemed to exist from conception, without regard to race, sex, age, health, defect, or condition of dependency; and
(2) the term "person" shall include all such human life. Recognizes that each state has authority to protect the lives of unborn children residing in the jurisdiction of that state . Amends the federal judicial code to remove Supreme Court and district court jurisdiction to review cases arising out of any statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, or practice, or any act interpreting such a measure, on the grounds that such measure:

(1) protects the rights of human persons between conception and birth; or
(2) prohibits, limits, or regulates the performance of abortions or the provision of public funds, facilities, personnel, or other assistance for abortions. Makes this Act applicable to any case pending on the date of enactment.

[tangent4ronpaul]

There are a lot of pro-life democrats. Plus, they tend to also be the anti-war democrats. So - the issue helps with the DEMS he stand a chance of getting. The pro-abortion DEMS were never going to vote for him anyway.

Not true. in the early days of the campaign last time fully a third of our support came from that camp and they loved his "It's a state issues, not federal" stance. That support evaporated when he started talking about the issue, and just like in the book - goes on at length about his personal views, mentioning his political stand as an afterthought - in this case after 6 pages, at the end.

That and it's the first chapter. Most pro-choice people are going to be totally turned off by that an put the book down before they start reading.

Most liberals think he wants to ban abortion at a federal level because he presents the topic so poorly. He really needs to keep his personal views out of it, and address the matter politically. That would be the last 2 paragraphs of the chapter. Period!