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    Exclamation SF - New local ordinance to require ID of all people at gatherings over 100 people

    Surveillance, San Francisco-Style
    by Jim Harper on April 6, 2011 · 6 Comments

    http://techliberation.com/2011/04/06...ontent=Twitter

    San Francisco’s Entertainment Commission will soon be considering a jaw-dropping attack on privacy and free assembly. Here are some of the rules the Commission may adopt for any gathering of people expected to reach 100 or more:

    3. All occupants of the premises shall be ID Scanned (including patrons, promoters, and performers, etc.). ID scanning data shall be maintained on a data storage system for no less than 15 days and shall be made available to local law enforcement upon request.

    4. High visibility cameras shall be located at each entrance and exit point of the premises. Said cameras shall maintain a recorded data base for no less than fifteen (15 days) and made available to local law enforcement upon request.
    Would you recognize a police state if you lived in one? How about a police city? The First Amendment right to peaceably assemble takes a big step back when your identity data and appearance are captured for law enforcement to use at whim simply because you showed up. (ht: PrivacyActivism.org)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wow, that is NUTS...
    it's California.
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    So if I go to the park and there are 99 people already there, I have to show ID before I can enter? Going to church on Sundays or school during the week? Even at work if there are over 100 people there? Attending a concert? Shopping at the grocery store if it is busy? Is a traffic jam considered a "gathering"? Not gonna work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So if I go to the park and there are 99 people already there, I have to show ID before I can enter? Going to church on Sundays or school during the week? Even at work if there are over 100 people there? Attending a concert? Shopping at the grocery store if it is busy? Is a traffic jam considered a "gathering"? Not gonna work.
    Heh, it'll work just fine.

    It'll be selectively enforced just like so many other things are.

    You be forced into compliance if you are holding rally that the powers that be decide is suspect for whatever reason.

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    This is in the city where the cameras and doors don't work on public transit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Heh, it'll work just fine.

    It'll be selectively enforced just like so many other things are.

    You be forced into compliance if you are holding rally that the powers that be decide is suspect for whatever reason.
    Yep. Plus they want to do it for the big gatherings that have had to be cancelled due to violence and shootings. Things like the big Castro District Halloween party. It always starts out as a "public safety" issue. Ironically, the SF Police are notorious for looking the other way for all kinds of crime, especially if it involves street people. They must need cameras since the Police always look the other way.

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    f san fran pollutitions


    keepers of the status-quo...

    you cant even buy a puppy in that cesspool!


    i hope we get a mulligan and we can redo the whole rotten coastline
    Last edited by jkr; 04-07-2011 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Would you recognize a police state if you lived in one?
    Could you help me out and describe what it would look like and how would I recognize it just in case I misplace my tin foil crystal ball?

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    I do believe they're trying to find a backhanded way to end the Folsom Street Fair.
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