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    Default C4L re: recent vote on Rand's Libya res-Senators Terrified to Vote on Rand Paul Resolution

    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=41541

    Moments ago, the U.S. Senate voted overwhemingly to table (kill) Rand Paul's resolution that simply asserts that the Senate agrees with the following 2007 statement from then-Senator Barack Obama:

    The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.

    The Senate defines "tabling a motion" as:

    The motion is used to dispose quickly of questions the Senate does not wish to consider further.

    Not only has the Senate completely abdicated its constitutional duties when it comes to war, but it has now openly admitted it is scared to even hold a vote on a simple statement.

    Apparently, the Senate is a-ok with being steamrolled by President Obama and the United Nations. I guess they can only reserve enthusiasm for bills to tell the rest of us what to do with our lives.

    Meanwhile, the Air Force alone continues to spend $4 million dollars a day on a third war with no clear objective, no consistent leadership, and no constitutional authority.

    Only 9 other senators, including Mike Lee and Jim DeMint, were brave enough to stand with Rand Paul to defend the Constitution and common sense today.
    These were the votes on our side:

    Rand
    Lee
    De Mint
    Johnson (the tea party one)
    Sessions
    Moran
    Tooney
    Snow
    Collins
    Ensign
    Last edited by sailingaway; 04-05-2011 at 02:30 PM.
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    Pretty sad that only ten would side with the Constitution...another sign (as if we needed another) that Dems and Repubs are two wings on the same albatross around Liberty's neck. War is eternal.
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    Who voted to kill it?
    Ron Paul let the cat out of the bag.

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    Kudos to DeMint.

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    All Republicans. Some of them even support the previous interventions elsewhere. Interesting.

    I thought democrats were supposed to be for peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGRP View Post
    Who voted to kill it?
    Everyone else. It was 90 to 10.

    Here's the roll call: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00050
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    Kudos to Johnson too.

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    Sounds like its time to update the top 10 tea party crashers article.
    Ron Paul let the cat out of the bag.

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    Im a bit lost.

    A yea vote means they don't agree with Rand?

    I cant find where it states:

    The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.
    Ron Paul let the cat out of the bag.

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    Scumbags should be thrown on the front lines. Americans are too $#@!ing stupid to even notice, hopefully they'll bring back the draft and shove American rabble on the front lines so they can pay for their epic stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kah13176 View Post
    I thought democrats were supposed to be for peace.
    I'm glad that myth has finally been debunked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGRP View Post
    Im a bit lost.

    A yea vote means they don't agree with Rand?

    I cant find where it states:

    The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.
    They didn't vote on the "The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.", they voted to discard the question. This way they don't have to vote on senator obama's statement.
    Last edited by Diurdi; 04-05-2011 at 03:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGRP View Post
    Im a bit lost.

    A yea vote means they don't agree with Rand?

    I cant find where it states:

    The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.
    The precise motion was just to 'table' it which means banish it to limbo forever. A 'yes' meant they wanted to get rid of the issue Rand brought up. Our side voted 'Nay'.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear. -Ron Paul

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden

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    What a disgrace

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    Quote Originally Posted by kah13176 View Post
    All Republicans. Some of them even support the previous interventions elsewhere. Interesting.

    I thought democrats were supposed to be for peace.
    Well it's time to start calling in the talk shows and talking about it. Find conservative talk show hosts who have been questioning Obama not having the authority to do this unilaterally. (In other words, don't call that idiot Mark Levin). Start off talking about the hypocrisy of the democrats. Then add in that you're "so glad at at least some republicans were willing to stand with the constitution." You might want to attack Lindsay "Ban Koran burning" Graham while you're at it.
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    The GOP dissapoints, only 1/4th of them have a spine. That is par for them I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stary Hickory View Post
    The GOP dissapoints, only 1/4th of them have a spine. That is par for them I guess.
    the comments on hot air felt the missing anatomy was other than the spine.
    "Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear. -Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    the comments on hot air felt the missing anatomy was other than the spine.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/04/0...0-10/#comments

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