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Last edited by low preference guy; 03-29-2011 at 11:13 PM.
Reason asserted that "a half-dozen longtime libertarian activists—including some still close to Paul" had identified Rockwell as the "chief ghostwriter" of the Ron Paul newsletters published from "roughly 1989 to 1994." According to Reason, Rockwell has denied responsibility for the disputed material and has called the accusations "hysterical smears aimed at political enemies."
I don't know anything about libertarian internal politics, and maybe Rockwell didn't write them; but who did? Wasn't Rockwell responsible for overseeing all the letters going out?
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Rome is burning and your worried about Lew being polite to the arsonists. Shakes head in wonder.
Lew is abrasive. Its a style that we diehards love but regular people don't respond to.
That ^ I don't spend much time there anymore as
(A) I already know what everybody is going to say because there is nothing new
(B) Well reasoned analysis of why libertarianism provides the best solution to most of the problems of "public policy" is lacking. It is easier to rant than put forth the effort into dissecting the liberal and conservative positions that lead to increased tyranny of the government over the individual.
Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.
I'd say we already dissected the liberal/conservative positions that lead to tyranny. We already did that years ago.
So either we can repeat it constantly, sounding like a broken record. Or we can just have some fun and stroke our egos.
"Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie
Lew is an anarchist. I like him. Libertarians who think that anything can be done through the political process are usually turned off by him. Im all in for the Ron Paul 2012 thing, but in my heart of hearts I know it wont change anything and government is essence will continue to grow, I dont care what you put in a constitution.
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.” -Lysander Spooner
Many people have questioned why I support Ron Paul and other liberty candidates by going to CPAC and posting here and such. I don't view it as trying to get a political victory, but I view it as trying to get an educational victory.
"Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie
LRC might turn some people off...who cares? That wasn't the voice of reason for that particular person. We shouldn't sit here wringing our hands over something or someone we cannot (should not) change. We need to worry about those that continue to applaud the burgeoning size of the US gov't that seeks to oppress us. Lew is one of the good guys. We can talk about "refining liberty" when we actually win, not cut our own throats because we don't like the delivery of someone's message.
Either people are too thin-skinned to take LRC (or any liberty-type for that matter) or they are more resilient than we are giving them credit for...and will have to seek someone else they can relate to. If they are reading LRC at all - at least that means they are searching for an answer. You don't just flip the switch on liberty because you dislike a person's commentary.
"In the beginning, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." ~ Mark Twain
Hyperbole won't help our movement at all. Also, these days Lew is looking like a homeless man, not sure what happened but he really let himself go. Image is everything, and his poor image won't help the movement either.
It really gets on my nerves that so many apparently are so worried about "What will the mainstream think about us *wring handkerchief in worry*"
All of us are on the morally right side. We shouldn't have to worry about "sanitizing" our message. The only people who will care about this are those who we will never "win over" to begin with, like Mark Levine.
Even if we get rid of the "offensive" material, they will still find something to attack us on.
Last edited by Vessol; 03-30-2011 at 09:47 AM.
"Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie
Q F T! I keep saying this too, getting RP in front of as many people as possible with his message is the goal, not numbers of votes. You never know who he may light a fire under when he's on CNN or Fox and speaking about taxes or the war on drugs or another radical platform of his.
"Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie
"In the beginning, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." ~ Mark Twain
no
Even people I may have many disagreements with, I still don't mind being associated with them.
I remember when I was at CPAC I spent about 20 minutes at the John Birch Society stand, talking with them. I believe they were wary of my big 'ole Anarcho-Capitalist button I had, but they seemed to get along with me. I even shook the hand of the President of the JBS, John F. McManus and had a small discussion on the history of the JBS which I knew little about.
"Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie
FWIW: I have a podcast playing of the jason lewis show (from monday where he talks about libya) and he plugged lewrockwell.com, postively.
Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.
I think we need people of all walks. Rand is speaks in milder tone and Lew is the raw truth. People use different methods I suppose to achieve desired ends.
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