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    Default NH House passed bill requiring the NH AG to join a lawsuit challenging Obamacare

    Edit: HB 89 failed to become law. However, both SB 148 and HB 601 did become law. To read exactly what they do, follow this link, http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post3398527

    The NH House passed HB 89 requiring the NH AG to join a lawsuit challenging Obamacare by a vote of 259 to 107.

    http://www.nhliberty.org/bills/view/2011/HB89
    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/bill...illnumber=HB89

    HOUSE BILL 89

    AN ACT requiring the attorney general to join the lawsuit challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

    SPONSORS: Rep. Weyler, Rock 8; Rep. Reagan, Rock 1; Rep. Marshall Quandt, Rock 13; Rep. Ulery, Hills 27; Rep. Bettencourt, Rock 4; Sen. Barnes, Jr., Dist 17

    COMMITTEE: State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs

    AMENDED ANALYSIS

    This bill requires the attorney general to join the state of New Hampshire as a plaintiff in the lawsuit pending in federal court captioned State of Florida et al. v. United States Department of Health and Human Services et al.
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    The NH Senate passed a similar bill, SB 148, relative to health insurance coverage and declaring that the attorney general should join the lawsuit challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act by a vote of 17 to 6. The bill also declaims that the Federal Government cannot force people in NH to buy health insurance.

    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/bill...ponsors=209081

    STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

    In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Eleven

    AN ACT relative to health insurance coverage and declaring that the attorney general should join the lawsuit challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

    Be it Enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court convened:

    1 New Section; Insurance Department; Health Insurance Coverage. Amend RSA 400-A by inserting after section 14 the following new section:

    400-A:14-a Health Insurance Coverage. No resident of this state, regardless of whether he or she has or is eligible for health insurance coverage under any policy or program provided by or through his or her employer, or a plan sponsored by the state or the federal government, shall be required to obtain or maintain a policy of individual insurance coverage except as required by a court or the department of health and human services where an individual is named a party in a judicial or administrative proceeding. No provision of this title shall render a resident of this state liable for any penalty, assessment, fee, or fine as a result of his or her failure to procure or obtain health insurance coverage. This section shall not apply to individuals voluntarily applying for coverage under a state-administered program pursuant to Title XIX or Title XXI of the Social Security Act. This section shall not apply to students being required by an institution of higher education to obtain and maintain health insurance as a condition of enrollment. Nothing in this section shall impair the rights of persons to privately contract for health insurance for family members or former family members.

    2 Lawsuit Challenging the Federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The attorney general should, as soon as practicable, join the lawsuit (State of Florida et al. v. United States Department of Health and Human Services et al.) challenging the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

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    Today the NH House passed SB148: "Requires" AG to join healthcare lawsuit and returns exchange grant 261 to 104. The NH Senate tabled the HB89: Would require AG to join healthcare lawsuit, a similar bill.

    So a bill requiring the AG to join the healthcare lawsuit against the federal government has now passed both the NH Senate and NH House by a veto proof majority except the bills aren't the same so they will have to have a conference on this issue.

    Here is a free state project participant expressing his thoughts on the matter, http://amanuse.rlcnh.org/2011/05/05/...re-funds-back/
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    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...11/SB0148.html
    SB148 was amended so that it

    AMENDED ANALYSIS
    This bill provides that a resident of New Hampshire shall not be required to obtain, or be assessed a fee or fine for failure to obtain, health insurance coverage.
    SB148 became law without Democratic Gov. Lynch's signature.

    [Democratic Gov.] Lynch, who noted that the federal healthcare bill is still under challenge in federal courts in multi-state court suits, said SB 148 has no practical effect on New Hampshire residents because there is no way to enforce it.

    “The assessments for not obtaining health insurance will not be administered through the state but through the Internal Revenue Service. Legislators and the public should understand that this legislation would have no impact on the capacity of the state of New Hampshire to block the individual health insurance mandate or the federal assessments for not obtaining insurance,” he said.

    [Republican Speaker of the House] O'Brien said, “The vast majority of New Hampshire residents rejects ObamaCare and wants this outrageous federal takeover of our health care system to end immediately. These new state laws protect New Hampshire citizens from a blatant intrusion into their freedom by forcing them to buy health insurance or potentially go to jail.”
    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...11/HB0601.html
    HB 601 also became law without Gov. Lynch's signature. It does the following.

    AMENDED ANALYSIS
    This bill establishes an oversight committee to provide legislative oversight, policy direction and recommendations for legislation with respect to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2009 Public Law 111-148, as amended by the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, Public Law 111-152. This bill requires the insurance commissioner to obtain approval from the oversight committee before implementing any of the federal changes. This bill also directs the insurance commissioner to decline certain exchange planning grant funds [of $666,000 so far] and to indicate to the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services that the money is to be used to reduce the federal budget deficit.
    [Republican Speaker of the House O'Brien said], State agencies also will need to get legislative approval before they try to implement this seriously flawed federal law. Furthermore, given the strong possibility that the U.S. Supreme Court could find Obamacare unconstitutional, we are sending back the federal taxpayer dollars that they sent us to build an infrastructure for this law, so that they can be used to cut the federal debt, something our taxpayers certainly would support. Unfortunately, Governor Lynch could not find the courage to stand with our citizens and support these two important bills to defend New Hampshire citizens.
    Here is a Union Leader article about the two bills becoming law.

    Health bills become law without Lynch signature
    By TOM FAHEY
    State House Bureau Chief
    Published Jul 15, 2011 at 3:00 am
    http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS06/707159989

    CONCORD — Two bills meant to exert state control over federal health-care reform became law without Gov. John Lynch's signature Thursday.

    Speaker of the House William O'Brien and House Majority Leader D.J. Bettencourt said the two new laws are victories for New Hampshire consumers, the majority of whom reject so-called Obamacare and want it stopped.
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    Related to this issue, on 10-12-2011, the New Hampshire House passed HR13 258 to 112. Since it is a House Resolution, it doesn't need to pass anywhere else.

    This house resolution declares that the advisory opinion issued by the supreme court in response to SR 9 under New Hampshire constitution, Part II, Article 74 was incorrect and a dangerous addition to a series of decisions of the court inimical to the authority of the legislature and the right of the people to be controlled by no laws other than those to which they or their elected representatives have consented, and urging the senate to remove HB 89, a bill requiring the attorney general to join a lawsuit challenging ObamaCare, from the table and pass it.

    HR13 is the houses way of saying it is upset with the senate for not agreeing to vote to tell the NH Attorney General that he must join a lawsuit against ObamaCare. The Senate agreed to ask the NH Attorney General to please consider joining a lawsuit but refused to demand the Attorney General to do anything.
    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/bill...illnumber=HR13

    Here is how ObamaCare legally stands in NH right now.

    Depending on who you ask in NH, HB601 means that ObamaCare will be difficult, if not impossible to implement in NH. HB601 also rejects federal planning grant funds. Depending on who you ask in NH, the mandate in ObamaCare that says that you have to have health insurance doesn't not apply in NH because SB148 passed. HR13 is the Houses way of saying it is upset with the Senate for not agreeing to vote to tell the NH Attorney General that he must join a lawsuit against ObamaCare. The Senate agreed to ask the NH Attorney General to please consider joining a lawsuit but refused to demand the Attorney General to do anything

    As for future legislation, my guess is that either if NH elects a Republican governor next year or if the US elects a Republican president next year, ObamaCare will be completely finished in NH.

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    Does a law like this violate separation of powers provisions? Does the NH state constitution have such a provision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulpwns View Post
    Does a law like this violate separation of powers provisions? Does the NH state constitution have such a provision?
    No, it doesn't violate separation of powers. NH has a long history of the legislature "making particular orders to members of the executive branch." Then again, the NH Supreme Court disagrees.

    Oh well. I guess it all comes down to what I said in the last post, "As for future legislation, my guess is that either if NH elects a Republican governor next year or if the US elects a Republican president next year, ObamaCare will be completely finished in NH." I'm just glad that Democratic Governor Lynch is not running for reelection.

    http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll.../-1/fosopinion
    House should defend power delegated in the constitution by the people

    Thursday, October 20, 2011

    On Sept. 20, the Supreme Court was a no show at the public hearing for House Resolution 13 which repudiates the court's opinion the Legislature cannot order the Attorney General to join a lawsuit.

    Earlier this year, HB 89 was introduced directing the Attorney General to join 26 other states in a lawsuit against ObamaCare. Immediately, the Attorney General took the position that the Legislature does not have the power to direct him to engage in any particular lawsuit. Despite the Attorney General's objections, HB 89 received a positive policy recommendation from the State and Federal Relations Committee, and the House voted ought-to-pass.

    HB 89 was then sent to the Constitutional Review and Statutory Recodification Committee, which discovered that the Legislature has a history of making particular orders to members of the executive branch, including thirteen to the Attorney General. One, a 1994 bill sponsored by Senator Shaheen, ordered the Attorney General to engage in a federal lawsuit to take possession of Seavey Island, which he obeyed. The committee found HB 89 constitutional, and the House voted ought-to-pass again.

    The Senate could not reach a conclusion as to the constitutionality HB 89, and instead sought an opinion from the Supreme Court. The court opined that though the Legislature originally had this power, it ended with the adoption of the 1966 Amendment to Part II, Article 41 under of "separation of powers". To re-enforce this opinion the Supreme Court quoted part of Mr. Eaton's summary of the amendment (Resolution 58) to the convention, "Now we know the doctrine [of separation of powers] is essential to American Government and we know it requires constant implementation. Whenever the executive branch needs authority it cannot legislate one word. Only the Legislature manufactures authority. If the General Court [Legislature] needs better enforcement, it cannot enforce compliance or restrain violations. These are executive functions." From this the Supreme Court concluded, "This history reveals that the purpose of Part II, Article 41 is to grant to the executive branch the exclusive[sic] power to enforce[sic] the law." By this the Court means that the Legislature cannot direct the Attorney General to engage in a particular lawsuit.

    The Supreme Court seemed unaware of Mr. Eaton's introductory remarks in that same speech, "Now the purpose of this resolution is to protect the power of the general court. It makes explicit some statutory authority which the executive branch has already been using for many years ... The new Resolution 58 permits the governor to continue to direct the affairs of the state and now he must enforce respect for legislative mandates, powers, rights and duties." Could the Supreme Court have found their quotation of Mr. Eaton without first reading his introduction?

    Neither did the Supreme Court appear to notice Mr. Eaton's final remarks, "Now in conclusion, I have just one more reason for passing Resolution 58. As everyone knows, state legislatures have been losing power rapidly in recent years. And this is not a theory. It is an accepted fact that progressive decline of legislative power threatens representative government. Many forces aggravate the imbalance and every time a bureaucrat overspends his budget or ignores a statute, he shows disrespect for the Legislature. Resolution 58 declares all executive departments and agencies must respect all mandates, powers and rights of the general court and I hope as we close the 15th constitutional convention we can adopt Resolution 58 which says that whatever may happen in the other states, New Hampshire is still owned by the people and still operated by elected representatives of the people."

    In a necessary response, Rep. Greg Sorg, with others, introduced House Resolution 13, declaring the opinion of the Supreme Court to be incorrect, and urging the Senate to pass HB 89. At the public hearing of HR 13 on Sept. 20, all testimony was in favor of the resolution. The Court failed to attend the public hearing, not even sending their usual counsel. Did the Supreme Court choose not to attend out of disrespect for the people and their elected representatives, or because they recognized that their opinion was indefensible? In any other Court, the failure to attend a hearing without notice would be acquiescence.

    The Constitutional Review Committee voted HR13 ought-to-pass, and sent it to the full House for the Oct. 12 Session. Oct. 12, will be a defining moment in history for representative government in New Hampshire. Will the House defend the power delegated to them in the Constitution by the people, or let it be wrongfully handed over to unelected officials?



    State Rep. Dan Itse
    R-Freemont

    New Hampshire Representative Dan Itse is chair of the Constitutional Review and Statutory Recodification Committee.

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    Great news in NH. The legislative branch in NH already voted down Obamacare and it passed with so many voters that it didn't matter how Governor Lynch felt about the issue. Governor Lynch shares control of the executive branch with the 5 member executive council. On state contracts of over $5,000, the executive council gets a vote. Obama tried to give NH a federal grant of $1,000,000 to implement Obamacare in NH. The legislature voted the amount down to $333,000 and voted down the individual mandate. The executive council just voted to not take the $333,000 from the federal government to implement Obamacare. Now, not only is Obamacare illegal in NH, but there is no money to implement the program

    House Leaders Commend Executive Councilors for Rebuke of Obamacare
    http://nhhousegop.com/house-leaders-...e-of-obamacare

    CONCORD – House Speaker William O’Brien (R-Mont Vernon) and House Majority Leader D.J. Bettencourt (R-Salem) today commended Executive Councilors Daniel St. Hillaire (R-Concord), Christopher Sununu (R-Newfields), and David Wheeler (R-Milford) for their vote to table a contract that would bring in a $333,000 federal grant to begin implementing an ObamaCare insurance exchange in New Hampshire.

    House Speaker William O’Brien

    “Continually Americans and Granite Staters have demonstrated they are opposed to ObamaCare. Further, given the strong possibility that the U.S. Supreme Court could find ObamaCare unconstitutional, it makes no sense to waste $333,000 of the taxpayers’ money. We congratulate the executive councilors who took a principled stance in not approving this contract and hope that it will ultimately be rejected and the money sent back to Washington. We, in New Hampshire, are not interested in these costly mandates that persistently have federal strings attached. When the money gets back to Washington it should be used to cut the federal debt – an idea our taxpayers certainly would support.”

    House Majority Leader D.J. Bettencourt

    “Last November, a major reason why the voters repudiated the big-government Democrat agenda was because of their plan to take over Americans’ health care. Republicans campaigned on a clear message of restoring our freedom to make our own health care decisions and I commend the Executive Councilors who voted against approval for keeping their word. We will work hard to elect a Republican to the corner office in November as it is clear the likes of Maggie Hassan and any other Democrat gubernatorial candidate will remain in lock-step with Obama in forcing this disastrous healthcare takeover down our throats. Republicans will continue to take every opportunity to block this assault on our liberty.”
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    My last post on this subject said that at the November Executive Council meeting, the EC vote 3 to 2 to table the funding.

    Executive Councilors Daniel St. Hillaire (R-Concord), Christopher Sununu (R-Newfields), and David Wheeler (R-Milford) for their vote to table a contract that would bring in a $333,000 federal grant to begin implementing an ObamaCare insurance exchange in New Hampshire.
    The issue was removed from the table at the December Executive Council meeting. Guess how the vote turned out?

    Earlier this week the N.H. Executive Council voted 3-2 to reject a $333,000 contract, paid for with federal funds, to establish a health insurance exchange to implement the national health care reform law.
    Read more about this news if you want.

    Patch.com on Exec Council rejecting ObamaCare funds
    Posted by staff3 on Dec 15, 2011
    http://nhhousegop.com/patch-com-on-e...bamacare-funds

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