can a libertarian nation survive

[Reactionary]

guess you have a libertarian nation with open borders

how can this libertarian nation survive tribalism and ethnic networking by a group that is very hostile to the libertarian majority, and that has somehow managed to convince the same libertarian majority that tribalism to their favor is morally evil?

for the hostile group it may be very easy to gang on each libertarian individual to take them off their way one by one until an oppressive state has been established

imagine this hostile group importing millions of semi-slaves from highly socialist countries, keeping them inside of the libertarian nation with minimal inversion, i.e. making them sleep in little rooms, minimal food provisions

and imagine they manage to convince the semi-slaves that their lives would be far better, if only the libertarian majority could share some of their wealth. Now the hostile group arms the semi-slaves with all kind of war weapons and waits until the numbers are finally in their favor to launch an all-out statist revolution

what kind of measures you would take to avoid this problem?

Imagine that you have closed borders, but the hostile group and the semislaves are already inside the country

[silverhandorder]

Kill the fuckers everyone of them. What you thought a libertarian nation can not take action against imminent invasion? The security firms will make short work out of such people.

edit: But let me ask you what would your own current government do against such a highly organized group? It would fold in days should they be in the place of this libertarian nation.

[madfoot]

I don't think a 100% ideologically libertarian nation is feasible, but a country with policies of non-inteventionism in military and economic affairs doesn't have any problems as I see it.

I don't really get the scenario that you're proposing. Sounds a lot like the "Islamofascism" scare to me.

[Philhelm]

In a libertarian nation, the borders would mostly constitute of private property, and trespassers would be lawfully shot.

So, these invaders couldn't be arrested, or defeated in battle if they were to initiate agression against the citizenry? It sounds more like you are speaking of a nation that is in a state of anarchy. And why wouldn't a libertarian nation have tribalism or ethnic networking of its own? It's not like people would be forced to associate with others one way or the other.

[nobody's_hero]

In some ways, this is like what happened to the native americans.

[Reactionary]

In a libertarian nation, the borders would mostly constitute of private property, and trespassers would be lawfully shot.

here is the problem, if you have a powerful hostile ethnic network then they may have access to unlimited resources coming from an enemy country, they only need to buy their own airport to bring the semislaves and then bribe some libertarians to get access or right away buy land in the heartland

once their power concentration reaches critical mass, they can attack individual libertarian landowners and overwhelm them with firepower

[Reactionary]

What you thought a libertarian nation can not take action against imminent invasion? The security firms will make short work out of such people.

The hostile group will not attack right away. They will build up their power slowly, and try to buy the mass media as quickly as they can, no matter the cost, as they may have access to "infinite" resources from an enemy country


Once in control of mass media they can use it as a tool to create panic and demonize people that try to warn against their conspiracy

[johnrocks]

If open borders was the definition of a libertarian; George Bush would be friggin Hayek and John McCain would be Murray fucking Rothbard!

Instead of worrying about what a "pure" libertarian government would act, how about we start with not intervening all over the damn world and end the welfare state and see how that works!

Perhaps if we did that,defended our own borders,ports and waterways, allowed people to legally do drugs as long as they didn't harm others, not have the welfare state so that the Americans here would have a choice to pick fruit or not get paid to eat in the first place; we would not even have to concern ourselves with how a "pure" libertarian society could exist!

[pcosmar]

For what reason would this "Tribe" have to attack in a free and open society?
Why would the other armed and equipped citizens not defend themselves from an attack?

Why do people with NO concept of Liberty post dumb questions and absurd scenarios?

[specsaregood]

I don't think a 100% ideologically libertarian nation is feasible,

since you appear to be an expert, please explain for us exactly what is a "100% ideologically libertarian nation". thanks in advance