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    Feds raid Ed Brown in New Hampshire - raid was aborted, Thursday 6/7

    Ed is the guy who's been holed up in his Plainfield NH home since January refusing to pay Fed income taxes.

    http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/p...TORY/706090329
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    Yeah, Whats crazy! Nothing like the US government Mafia trying to rob you at gun point when it's very clear there is NO law that supports anyone paying any personal income tax.

    IRS = big bullies with guns.

    "Energy and persistence conquer all things"
    Benjamin Franklin
    The greatest sins are those who remain silent in the face of evil.

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    Your thread title is a bit misleading, they were prepared to raid his home but they did not do it.

    Edit: Thanks for changing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    Your thread title is a bit misleading, they were prepared to raid his home but they did not do it.
    Whew! I got worried there. I've been waiting like a lot of people have to see how it plays out when they eventually move in and invade his home. It was some days ago now that they surrounded his property, shot at some guy walking his dog, and then just took over the dental office.

    Has the paramilitary presence actually moved off, or are they still there? Does anyone know what the situation is as of today? I'm sure I'll find out from AJ on tomorrow's show regardless if no one here knows...

    Wishing for the best for everyone, and that no one gets hurt in this situation!
    mdh - mdh (at) lpwv (dot) org
    Libertarian Party of West Virginia Chairman

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    The situation is very fluid and dangerous for the Browns. I agree with the commentary of others, this is quite likely an effort by the 'Powers that Be' to try to maneuver us into a position of hot resistance to the Feds. Ed Brown said that he would surrender if the government can present him the actual law that states he has to pay federal income taxes. Instead, our government has sent scores of storm troopers to lay siege to the family's house.

    This is such an example as to why we need to support Ron Paul to the best of our abilities because if we lose in 2008, changing things on the federal level will be nigh impossible. And we should all admire the courage of the Brown's to take a stand against the Federal Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTheoden View Post
    The situation is very fluid and dangerous for the Browns. I agree with the commentary of others, this is quite likely an effort by the 'Powers that Be' to try to maneuver us into a position of hot resistance to the Feds. Ed Brown said that he would surrender if the government can present him the actual law that states he has to pay federal income taxes. Instead, our government has sent scores of storm troopers to lay siege to the family's house.

    This is such an example as to why we need to support Ron Paul to the best of our abilities because if we lose in 2008, changing things on the federal level will be nigh impossible. And we should all admire the courage of the Brown's to take a stand against the Federal Government.
    Isnt it odd that all major news networks had ignorant this news story?
    well all the news networks were more focused on Pairs rather then this story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give me liberty View Post
    Isnt it odd that all major news networks had ignorant this news story?
    well all the news networks were more focused on Pairs rather then this story.
    you mean that stuff's not important?

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    Ok, first off I would never give the government a reason to shoot at my family. I would not even give the impression that I was resisting them.

    I would have been arrested freely. I would get a real lawyer and show the evidence in court that I don't have to pay taxes. Also the first thing I would do when they came for me is make a Freedom of Information Act Request for the law that states that I have to pay taxes.

    Ultimately if the bias jury put me in jail, I would gladly go. (lots of time to work on my doctorate in jail.)

    An informed jury would never put you behind bars.

    The real issue here is the lack of knowledge of juries. Juries can give you freedom no matter what the situation is. Remember O.J.



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    Quote Originally Posted by american.swan View Post

    I would have been arrested freely. I would get a real lawyer and show the evidence in court that I don't have to pay taxes.
    The problem is that the courts have repeatedly refused to rule on the "is it a law?" issue.

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    Tax courts operate under Admiralty Law, which is essentially at the disposition of the judge. I read Mary Elizabeth Croft's pdf book: "How I Clobbered Every Cash Confiscatory Agency Known to Man." http://www.natural-person.ca/pdf/mary_croft.pdf According to Croft's logic, all the Browns had to do was refuse to answer the charges of the court. Instead, they chose to go into the court and fight their case. The best they can do is spread awareness about the fact that there is no legal requirement to pay the income tax. However, they are either going to get killed or go to prison.

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    2nd Ed Brown raid may be imminent, says govt. watchdog

    From NHfree.com
    June 11, 2007

    Michael Hampton from HomelandStupidity.us says he believes another Federal raid or show of force is imminent in Plainfied, New Hampshire. He also says Washington agents are now occupying a room at the Lebanon Residence Inn.

    Hampton, a Manchester blogger who monitors Federal Internet usage, says the same patterns which preceded their June 7 show of force are recurring now.

    "Last week the day before the raid, they started reading (Ed Brown Internet discussions) from their laptops and their Verizon data cards," he says.

    "And they read...some of Ed Brown supporters' Myspace profiles a lot more frequently...Today they're doing it again, same pattern...And now they've switched over to the Verizon data cards, within the last minute or two, which means they're on the move. SOMETHING is imminent. Maybe another dry run, maybe a raid, I don't know."

    He continues:

    "At least one of them is operating out of the Residence Inn, 32 Centerra Parkway, Lebanon, as of earlier today,"

    Direct link to Hampton's posts:
    http://newhampshireunderground.com/f...9817#msg159817
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    thanks btw for all the supportive comments

    altho i guess technically i don't think of myself as a brown supporter (he's far from perfect)....I am glad to see many others who agree that he should not die or be caged.
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    Now I'm just being bitter, but I wish they'd evict the Mexican woman from the Chicago church.

    There's no doubt she broke laws.

    I wonder what would happen if we swapmed the 'net with Ed Brown discussions?

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    Plainfield: Armored vehicles, power shutoff trigger new concerns

    From NHfree.com
    June 11, 2007 5:34 p.m. Eastern Time

    Bloggers around New Hampshire are reporting additional evidence of a second Federal buildup against income tax protester Ed Brown.

    At 1:52 p.m. on June 11 Michael Hampton of HomelandStupidity.us relayed a radio report from Brown:

    "Ed Brown just said on the radio," he writes, "that there are men crawling around in his woods and that his (grid) power and Internet have been out for a couple of hours now."

    Source:
    http://newhampshireunderground.com/f...9881#msg159881

    Hampton also reports a pattern of Federal Internet activity similar to that which preceded Washington's June 7 show of force.

    Source:
    http://newhampshireunderground.com/f...9832#msg159832

    As of 5:06 p.m. June 11 the Brown's phone remained disconnected after intermittently working over the previous three days.

    Brown supporter Rob James reports a June 11 visit by Federal Marshals at his home in New Hampshire. He says officials missed him but left a business card.

    Source:
    http://forum.freestateproject.org/in...2308#msg172308

    Late on June 10 New Hampshire talk show host Gardner Goldsmith relayed a report from NH Public Radio which claimed armored vehicles were taking up positions near the brown property.

    Source:
    http://libertyconspiracy.com/feds_se...ation_likely_0

    The link I included with my last news release went obsolete right after I sent it due to a thread merge at NHfree.com...my apologies. The new links should stay solid for a while.

    - Dave from NHfree.com
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    Want NH independence? http://NHexit.us

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    This guy actually walks the talk of "Live Free or Die". He is my new hero (along with Ron Paul of course).

    Serious badass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadlighter View Post
    Tax courts operate under Admiralty Law, which is essentially at the disposition of the judge. I read Mary Elizabeth Croft's pdf book: "How I Clobbered Every Cash Confiscatory Agency Known to Man." http://www.natural-person.ca/pdf/mary_croft.pdf According to Croft's logic, all the Browns had to do was refuse to answer the charges of the court. Instead, they chose to go into the court and fight their case. The best they can do is spread awareness about the fact that there is no legal requirement to pay the income tax. However, they are either going to get killed or go to prison.
    I am reading that pdf now. Makes sense so far. Wow. Great stuff.



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    List of things you can do to help Ed and Elaine:

    Here is a list of potential action items which would be appropriate and practical to carry out during the first 48 hours after an attack. Some of them you can carry out now, some you can carry out regardless of location.

    1) Go to calendar.nhfree.com and see what types of local NH events have been scheduled to occur in response to the raid. Attend them or promote them if you can.

    2) Head to your nearest Federal facility with a sign of some type. Plan on being alone at first. Staples has good sign making material...big posterboards are best with lettering at least six inches tall, otherwise car traffic will not be able to read your sign. Better to have this material on hand now, so you are not scrambling to acquire it after the spit hits the fan. You will be three times as effective and visible if you also have a rattlesnake flag and pole.

    3) Write a letter to the editor of a nearby paper expressing your concern. In New Hampshire The Concord Monitor, Keene Free Press and the Union Leader seem to print most of the pro liberty letters they receive, and you can be from anywhere in the state. The Keene Sentinel seems to be pretty good about printing our letters if written from the Keene area. Keep them under 200 words in all cases if possible, especially with the Union Leader.

    4) Join some political web forums and voice there your support for Ed and Elaine. I've included a list of good forums below. Better to join now and be ready than to join after the event.

    5) Call relevant officials to express your concern. I've included a list below.

    6) Maybe go to Ed Brown's house? Haven't really given this much thought. Certainly I hope more folks will go there beforehand as a deterrent. His address: 401 Center of Town Road Plainfield, New Hampshire 03781

    But again...the important thing is to be ready, and do *something* constructive in response to any raid or seizure of our flinty acquaintence.

    Ideas for post-raid signs:

    Free
    Elaine
    Brown
    NHfree.com

    Are Feds
    Torturing
    Elaine Brown?
    NHfree.com

    Or if things go really badly

    Feds
    Murdered
    Ed Brown

    I hope I don't have to carry that one.

    List of active web forums where you can voice your support for Ed and Elaine:

    in new hampshire:
    http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=3868.0 - Ed brown discussion thread on NHfree.com
    http://seacoastconnects.com/forums/s...9846#post19846
    http://merrimackforum.org/phpBB2/vie...?p=66840#66840
    http://salemnhforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=14558#14558
    http://forum.nashuatelegraph.com/vie...hp?p=1793#1793
    http://forum.freestateproject.org/in...?topic=12652.0

    Nationally:
    http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/fo...067958#1067958
    http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=6264
    http://thehighroad.org/showthread.ph...41#post2141241
    http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/...279#post672279
    http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/...?p=24787#24787
    http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=4478.0 -libertarian forum
    http://boards.billmaher.com/showthre...712#post563712
    http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/foru...718#post601718
    http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/showthread.php?t=9953
    http://www.libertynewsforum.com/
    http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php
    http://www.annoyatorium.com/tt.aspx?forumid=25
    http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/index.php
    http://www.volconvo.com/forums/
    http://www.itsallpolitics.com/general-politics-vf5.html
    http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/showth...7544#post17544
    http://cheaptalk.marijuana.com/420/forumdisplay.php?f=8
    http://merit.nosync.org/index.php?showforum=35 - best category to post usually
    http://techreport.com/forums/viewtop...=517252#517252
    http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-l...;action=login2 - libertarian forum
    http://anti-state.com/forum/index.ph...;action=login2
    http://www.fappin.com/board - they request I hit the link button lower right. Stopped posting because it was too complicated
    http://www.wendymcelroy.com/smf/index.php
    http://tcftalk.com/clairefiles/index.php?&topic=10841.0
    http://digg.com/
    http://www.christianexodus.us/ - FSP style movement except they are all Christians evacuating to South Carolina


    List of public officials in New Hampshire who "serve" Ed and Elaine:

    Sullivan County Sheriff Michael L. Prozzo Jr.
    14 Main St.
    P.O. Box 27
    Newport, NH. 03773
    PH 603.863.4200
    FAX 603.863.0012
    or E-mail sheriff@nhvt.net
    You can ask him not to cooperate with the Feds in arresting or killing Ed and his friends. One approach is to keep the message under 12 words and ask his secretary to write it down word for word.


    NH Sen. John Sununu
    603-647-7500
    You can ask him what he's doing to keep the other feds from arresting or killing Ed and his friends. One approach is to keep the message under 12 words and ask his secretary to write it down word for word.

    Office of NH Governor Lynch
    State House
    25 Capitol Street
    Concord, NH 03301
    (603)271-2121 (603)271-7680 (fax) Email the Governor at
    http://www.egov.nh.gov/governor/goveforms/comments.asp

    NH Sen. Judd Gregg
    603-225-7115

    U.S. Marshalls, New Hampshire
    Stephen Monier, Gary DiMartino
    603 225 1632
    You can thank them for their restraint thus far and urge them to continue it....or if they do something evil then you can just yell at them!

    Colonel Frederick Booth
    Director, NH State Police: (603) 271-2450
    33 Hazen Drive | Concord, NH 03305
    They were involved in arresting Ed last year, you can ask them not to do that again.


    U.S. Rep Paul Hodes
    Washington, DC Web Address:
    http://hodes.house.gov/
    Washington, DC Web Mail Address:
    http://www.house.gov/htbin/wre ...
    Washington, DC Address
    506 Cannon House Office Building
    Washington, DC 20515
    Phone: 202-225-5206
    Distric Address - Concord
    114 North Main Street
    Second Floor
    Concord, NH 03301
    Phone: 603-223-9814

    State Representative Matthew Houde (D)
    Current District: Sullivan 01
    First Elected: 11/07/2006
    Birth date: 03/27/1969
    28 Bean Road, Apt C
    Plainfield NH 03781-5479
    603 469 3149
    matthewhoude-at-yahoo.com

    Ed's other State Representative Carla Skinder (D,R - you can be both at same time in NH)
    Current District: Sullivan 01
    First Elected: 11/07/2006
    465 East Road
    Cornish NH 03745-4433
    603 542 6065
    603 543 6895
    603 863 8383
    e-mail: cskinder-at-vrh.org carla.skinder-at-leg.state.nh.us

    Attorney General Kelly Ayotte
    http://doj.nh.gov/
    33 Capitol Street
    Concord, NH 03301
    Phone: 603-271-3658
    TTYD Number: 800-735-2964
    Fax: 603-271-2110


    William M. Gardner (NH)
    Current Office: Secretary of State
    First Elected: 1976
    Party: Democrat
    elections@sos.state.nh.us
    http://www.sos.nh.gov/
    Department Address
    State Capitol, Room 204
    Concord, NH 03301
    Phone: 603-271-3242
    Fax: 603-271-6316


    US Representative Carol Shea-Porter (D) , NH
    The other NH rep. technically she is not ed's rep.
    Current District: 1
    First Elected: 11/07/2006
    Washington, DC Web Address:
    http://shea-porter.house.gov/
    Washington, DC Address
    1508 Longworth HOB
    Washington, DC 20515
    Phone: 202-225-5456
    District Address - Dover
    104 Washington Street
    Dover, NH 03820
    Phone: 603-743-4813
    Fax: 603-743-5956
    District Address - Manchester
    33 Lowell Street
    Manchester, NH 03101
    Phone: 603-641-9536
    Fax: 603-641-9561

    There's also a list of Ed's elected officials at

    http://votesmart.org/search_zipcode....&go.x=8&go.y=8

    Votesmart can also lead you to lists of your own officials if you're outside NH

    For those who are wondering what my plans are for the first 48 hours after a raid...my default plan is to go straight to calendar.nhfree.com and set up a couple of minidemonstrations to ocurr within that time frame. These will likely be protests in front of Federal facilities in Manchester, Nashua or Keene. Then I'll probably start working on new signs that match the new situation, and endeavor to attend the demonstrations. It's nothing riviting and is sure to change, but it is my default plan. What's yours?

    Dave Ridley
    AKA Dada Orwell
    NHfree.com
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