Gary Johnson on foreign policy

[Matt Collins]

I was kind of sandwiched in between him and Peter Schiff last night at the club (not even making this up). It was wall to wall people, I couldn't move. Anyway so I took the time to ask Gary some questions so I could get answers straight from him. It was noisy and I couldn't hear every word but basically I asked his position on foreign policy. He said some quote about genocide that's floating around didn't come from him and he had no idea how it happened. He said we need to cut the military by at least 43% and that all of the other countries in the world need to start handling their own defense. He said that he wouldn't want to be involved in genocide (obviously) but the phrase "genocide" is such a vague and undefined term that no one knows what it actually means. He cited the judge who once said "well I dont know what pornography is, but I'll know it when I see it".


Anyway those are his words from his mouth.

So no, in my opinion, I don't think he is the big interventionist that the rumors are saying that he is.

[Sola_Fide]

Schiff¦:collins:¦Johnson

[SilentBull]

Thanks Matt! Maybe some of the people on this board will be a little more open about him. We have to also understand that he is also trying to get elected, and just like Rand, he has to be careful not to sound too libertarian at first.

[Romulus]

Thanks Matt! Maybe some of the people on this board will be a little more open about him. We have to also understand that he is also trying to get elected, and just like Rand, he has to be careful not to sound too libertarian at first.

Kinda hard to do when he was just saying we dont need to fence or guard our southern border.. Sorry but if you want to win thats not the hand you play.

[nathanmn]

Kinda hard to do when he was just saying we dont need to fence or guard our southern border.. Sorry but if you want to win thats not the hand you play.

We don't really need to fence the border if we did the other things Johnson is talking about. If you make it easier to work here legally, and at the same time enforce employment laws, it simply becomes uneconomical to come here and attempt to work illegally. Fences, Berlin-esque walls, and machine gun turrets not needed.

[ronpaulitician]

Even Ron Paul has said something to that effect.

I see the immigration problem as a consequence of our welfare state. We encourage people not to work here, but the welfare we offer the people who come--they get free medical care. They get free education. They bankrupt our hospitals. Our hospitals are closing. And it shouldn’t be rewarded. That means you don’t give them citizenship. You can’t solve this problem until you get rid of the welfare state, because in a healthy economy, immigrants wouldn’t be a threat to us.

Source: 2007 GOP Presidential Forum at Morgan State University Sep 27, 2007

[nathanmn]

Even Ron Paul has said something to that effect.


Source: 2007 GOP Presidential Forum at Morgan State University Sep 27, 2007

Yeah.
"You want a 700-mile fence between our border and Mexico?

Ron Paul: Not really. There was an immigration bill that had a fence (requirement) in it, but it was to attack amnesty. I don't like amnesty. So I voted for that bill, but I didn't like the fence. I don't think the fence can solve a problem. I find it rather offensive.

What should we do?

Get rid of the subsidies. (If) you subsidize illegal immigration, you get more of it. "
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...migration.html

[Matt Collins]

Someone has a more detailed response on Gary's answer:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...rian-wars-quot

[JackieDan]

goodie jobie mattie

[Romulus]

We don't really need to fence the border if we did the other things Johnson is talking about. If you make it easier to work here legally, and at the same time enforce employment laws, it simply becomes uneconomical to come here and attempt to work illegally. Fences, Berlin-esque walls, and machine gun turrets not needed.

I agree totally but we still need to protect our borders since the welfare state and the drug war arent going away soon. And even if the do, evil does exist and it will find its way up here.

If you had property on the border would you not expect the Federal govt to do their job?

Just saying, its not a good platform to run on. Attack the deficit or the wars...

[dannno]

I agree totally but we still need to protect our borders since the welfare state and the drug war arent going away soon. And even if the do, evil does exist and it will find its way up here.

If you had property on the border would you not expect the Federal govt to do their job?

Just saying, its not a good platform to run on. Attack the deficit or the wars...

You have Ron Paul... you have his individual beliefs on individual issues.. you're going to have people who agree completely, or swing one way or another slightly..

Ron Paul said he finds the border fence "offensive".

That means you are going to find people in this movement who find the border fence more than offensive.

You could be right or wrong about good ways to handle it, but some will see the fence sort of like how we see Civil Liberties being taken in the name of freedom.

[HardyMacia]

If you had property on the border would you not expect the Federal govt to do their job?

Just saying, its not a good platform to run on. Attack the deficit or the wars...

Johnson was the governor of New Mexico for 8 years. I suspect he knows something about borders with Mexico.

[Brett85]

You have Ron Paul... you have his individual beliefs on individual issues.. you're going to have people who agree completely, or swing one way or another slightly..

Ron Paul said he finds the border fence "offensive".

That means you are going to find people in this movement who find the border fence more than offensive.

You could be right or wrong about good ways to handle it, but some will see the fence sort of like how we see Civil Liberties being taken in the name of freedom.

Just because Ron doesn't support a fence doesn't mean that he doesn't support securing the border. He's talked about militarizing the border before.

[S.Shorland]

It's obvious that if you take away their incentives,they won't come there.I think it's the Democrats trying to buy easy votes.We had it here with the labour party.

[roho76]

I was kind of sandwiched in between him and Peter Schiff last night at the club (not even making this up). It was wall to wall people, I couldn't move. Anyway so I took the time to ask Gary some questions so I could get answers straight from him. It was noisy and I couldn't hear every word but basically I asked his position on foreign policy. He said some quote about genocide that's floating around didn't come from him and he had no idea how it happened. He said we need to cut the military by at least 43% and that all of the other countries in the world need to start handling their own defense. He said that he wouldn't want to be involved in genocide (obviously) but the phrase "genocide" is such a vague and undefined term that no one knows what it actually means. He cited the judge who once said "well I dont know what pornography is, but I'll know it when I see it".


Anyway those are his words from his mouth.

So no, in my opinion, I don't think he is the big interventionist that the rumors are saying that he is.

Matt Collins =