Tell rabble-rousers to simmer down and hush up!

[devil21]

Im not at CPAC but if I was, you can bet that I would directly tell any "annoying" Paul supporter to simmer down because they are hurting all we have been working toward. If you're at CPAC and you see someone misbehaving (in direct violation of RP's wishes, no less) say something to them about what they're doing. Let them know they aren't helping the good Dr and that RP requested everyone be respectful. Let them know that the media is already loving the few idiots in our camp that are giving them fodder to trash us. Don't be afraid to set them straight!

[__27__]

"Shut up and know your place mundanes. Your dissent is not welcome here."

And you wonder why people are fed up to the point of shouting? Even amongst those who supposedly believe in individual freedom they are told they have to toe the line so they can possibly win the game their masters own. Stand up for yourself, stand up for your beliefs, if you piss off a few Toby Kieth's along the way are you really going to cry about it?

A crowd chanting USA USA USA at the sight of Darth Cheney wouldn't support your freedom if you crawled across the floor and licked their hands.

[Sola_Fide]

To me its not about "bowing to the masters", its about setting an example for Liberty.

Like Ron said, the only constitution many of them will ever read is the constitution of our character.

[hotbrownsauce]

Everyone needs to read my signature before they go making fools of all of us.

[notsure]

Isn't it called the Conservative Political ACTION Conference??

Action defined:

ac·tion
   /ˈækʃən/ Show Spelled[ak-shuhn] Show IPA
–noun
1. the process or state of acting or of being active:
2. something done or performed; act; deed.
3. an act that one consciously wills and that may be characterized by physical or mental activity:
4. actions, habitual or usual acts; conduct:
5. energetic activity: a man of action.
6. an exertion of power or force:
7. effect or influence


Action theory is an area in philosophy concerned with theories about the processes causing intentional (willful) human bodily movements of more or less complex kind.

In sociology, social action refers to an act which takes into account the actions and reactions of individuals (or 'agents'). According to Max Weber, "an Action is 'social' if the acting individual takes account of the behavior of others and is thereby oriented in its course" (Secher 1962).

[devil21]

I figured there would be a couple replies along the lines of "I can do what I want!" (Does that tell us who the idiots of CPAC are?)
That's all fine and dandy but I get real irritated watching people PISS AWAY what myself, and many, many others, have been working toward these last few years. We've started to be accepted by the establishment voters and people want to turn them off the first chance we get? I don't care what the Party organization thinks of us but I do care what the VOTERS think because let's face it, they care more about appearances than we do and if people act like idiots every chance they get, these people we're trying to win over will just shut us out on principle. They do have principles too sometimes, even if their principles are petty. You have the right to be an idiot but I also have the right to kick your ass for single-handedly pissing away what I've tried to build.

[notsure]

I figured there would be a couple replies along the lines of "I can do what I want!" (Does that tell us who the idiots of CPAC are?)
That's all fine and dandy but I get real irritated watching people PISS AWAY what myself, and many, many others, have been working toward these last few years. We've started to be accepted by the establishment voters and people want to turn them off the first chance we get? I don't care what the Party organization thinks of us but I do care what the VOTERS think because let's face it, they care more about appearances than we do and if people act like idiots every chance they get, these people we're trying to win over will just shut us out on principle. They do have principles too sometimes, even if their principles are petty. You have the right to be an idiot but I also have the right to kick your ass for single-handedly pissing away what I've tried to build.

You weren't even there and you want to control the dissidence, that's mighty Libertarian of you.
You don't want people getting in your way, then why are you trying to get in others' way.
Devil21 tell me, what exactly were they doing? You didn't mention any specific incident or anything. Tell me what are the "crazy supporters" doing? Because I didn't go to CPAC either, so I only have the same account as you. Is there a video or something of what you're talking about?

[devil21]

You weren't even there and you want to control the dissidence, that's mighty Libertarian of you.
You don't want people getting in your way, then why are you trying to get in others' way.
Devil21 tell me, what exactly were they doing? You didn't mention any specific incident or anything. Tell me what are the "crazy supporters" doing? Because I didn't go to CPAC either, so I only have the same account as you. Is there a video or something of what you're talking about?

How many videos of Paul supporters yelling during speeches do I need to watch to know what's going on? How many news articles do I need to read? How many posts and threads on conservative websites trashing the entire movement because of a few people that can't be respectful? I don't need to be there to know what's going on. It's right here on RPF and all over the net. Read the gd forum dude! My inbox has a shitload of Yahoo news alerts with Ron Paul as keywords and 9/10 of them are about the yelling during speeches, which is what RON PAUL SPECIFICALLY ASKED PEOPLE NOT TO DO. People yelled during Trump's speech, they yelled during Cheney's appearance and Rumsfeld's appearance, did a walkout, etc. Then we wonder why Donald Trump says Ron Paul can't win? Look, no one should be yelling crap like "War criminal" during an appearance by Cheney. CPAC is NOT the time or the place.

The media successfully damaged RP's 2008 campaign by focusing on his supporters. Are we going to prove Einstein's definition of insanity to be true?

[notsure]

How many videos of Paul supporters yelling during speeches do I need to watch to know what's going on? How many news articles do I need to read? How many posts and threads on conservative websites trashing the entire movement because of a few people that can't be respectful? I don't need to be there to know what's going on. It's right here on RPF and all over the net. Read the gd forum dude! My inbox has a shitload of Yahoo news alerts with Ron Paul as keywords and 9/10 of them are about the yelling during speeches, which is what RON PAUL SPECIFICALLY ASKED PEOPLE NOT TO DO. People yelled during Trump's speech, they yelled during Cheney's appearance and Rumsfeld's appearance, did a walkout, etc. Then we wonder why Donald Trump says Ron Paul can't win? Look, no one should be yelling crap like "War criminal" during an appearance by Cheney. CPAC is NOT the time or the place.

You need to propose just 1 good example. Because I knew you would say the Donald Trump thing and Rumsfeld and CHeney thing.
1. Donald Trump said he didn't know who to support for 2012. He said he wished for a fantastic candidate. All some supporters said was "Ron Paul", 1 time. Then Trump eggs them on. Isn't that what we're at CPAC for? You would just sit back while someone stood on the conservative soapbox and says RP isn't electable. He just told all those people that they were wasting their time.
2. Donald Rumsfeld was being awarded the Defender of the Constitution Award???? You support that?
That's a slap in the face for Liberty activists. I commend the "rabblerousers" for having the courage to speak up against these criminals.

These rise to actions seem just to me.

These people are not "your" Ron Paul supporters. They're just people who happen to support Ron Paul.

[notsure]

And I don't care what Donald Trump says. The man is a joke.