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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Not so. I have demonstrated my own thought regularly (perhaps you don't follow my posts?). I rarely quote Rothbard because I disagree with him on a number of things (again, you apparently don't read many of my posts). Had you actually read the post you quoted, you know that I only quoted Rothbard to point out what his critics tend to cite to attack him. This is legitimate use of a quote, not regurgitating his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Indeed. That's one of the reasons that in-system activism doesn't fundamentally change anything. I totally agree with you here. However, if your goal is just education in hopes that someday someone will act on it, I suppose you could say that RP is a success.
    Naw we are measuring sucess by whether the government has gotten smaller. Ah last time I checked, No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    But he was never elected now was he. Personally I am less free because RP failed to build a coalition big enough to accomplish anything and him attacking Reagan will continue to see those coalitions will never be built.
    Why didn't Reagan ever use his veto? The man hardly vetoed anything. That tells me all I need to know about his so-called convictions. You making excuses changes the truth not one iota. I am more convinced Gary Johnson is vastly more limited-Government oriented than Reagan because he used his veto so many times on a democrat-led Legislature. His record stands for itself. Why didn't Reagan have any conviction? I think it can be solidly said that Reagan spoke a nice rhetorical game, but he didn't believe in hardly any of it. Also, Reagan ratcheted up the War on Drugs. That was one of his major planks, same with hugely empowering and enlarging the MIC.

    Besides, all I need to know in this discussion is your equivocating the Presidency with one House seat. Good lord. You need some better arguments.

    PS: Do you even know where that Jefferson quote came from? I doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Naw we are measuring sucess by whether the government has gotten smaller. Ah last time I checked, No.
    Not just that, as I said, but that's one factor. Since Constitutionalists tend to argue that their stance (that is "strict adherence to the Constitution" or a variant of that) will beget smaller government, this seems a legitimate measure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple View Post
    Why didn't Reagan ever use his veto? The man hardly vetoed anything. That tells me all I need to know about his so-called convictions. You making excuses changes the truth not one iota. I am more convinced Gary Johnson is vastly more limited-Government oriented than Reagan because he used his veto so many times on a democrat-led Legislature. His record stands for itself. Why didn't Reagan have any conviction? I think it can be solidly said that Reagan spoke a nice rhetorical game, but he didn't believe in hardly any of it.

    Besides, all I need to know in this discussion is your equivocating the Presidency with one House seat. Good lord. You need some better arguments.

    PS: Do you even know where that Jefferson quote came from? I doubt it.
    That Jefferson quote comes from the idiots that quote it every time they think a violent revolution os the way to go. Most of them being Chickenhawks as will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    That Jefferson quote comes from the idiots that quote it every time they think a violent revolution os the way to go. Most of them being Chickenhawks as will.
    That didn't answer my question. It appears you do not know. Also, would you try and address my post, and not just selectively answer the last part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Personally I am less free because RP failed to build a coalition big enough to accomplish anything and him attacking Reagan will continue to see those coalitions will never be built.
    Are you trolling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    Are you trolling? WTF...
    Obvious, ain't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Naw we are measuring sucess by whether the government has gotten smaller. Ah last time I checked, No.
    It's going to take time. It might not even be possible.

    At least RP did something instead of nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshLowry View Post
    Are you trolling?
    Sorry Josh but there has been a large number of libertarian posters attacking Reagan and bringing up up every bad thing RP says about Reagan. Is this the way to go into a GOP dominated convention??
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