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    Thumbs down Sanford's Successor, Nikki Haley, Approves Huge Salary Increases

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    Haley Approves Huge Salary Increases
    By fitsnews • on January 13, 2011

    So much for limited government …
    With her state facing an estimated $1 billion budget shortfall, S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley handed out huge salary increases to top gubernatorial staffers on her first full day in office. She also doled out big salaries to newly-created positions within the governor’s office.

    Paying attention, Tea Partiers?

    Haley started things off by giving her new chief of staff, Tim Pearson, a 27.5 percent pay raise. Pearson will make $125,000 a year – or $27,000 more than Scott English made while serving as chief of staff to former Gov. Mark Sanford.
    Pearson will also have a full-time assistant who makes $60,000 a year.
    Haley’s deputy chief of staff for communications and legislative affairs – Trey Walker – will be paid $122,775 a year. That’s a 42.3 percent increase over the second-highest paid staffer in the Sanford administration.

    Haley’s top lawyer, Swati Patel, will be paid $102,000 a year – which is a 36 percent increase over the $75,000 a year that Sanford paid his top lawyer.
    Haley’s other two deputy chiefs of staff, former Rep. Ted Pitts (policy and cabinet affairs) and Katherine Haltiwanger (operations) will be paid $90,000 and $80,000 a year, respectively.

    Sanford’s office had just one employee who made a six figure salary – Mark Sanford ($106,078). That salary is set by law and will not change – meaning Haley will also be paid $106,078 a year.

    The Haley staff salaries – which were obtained by the Associated Press – showed increases of varying size up and down the executive staff roster.

    Haley’s spokesman, Rob Godfrey, will be paid $65,000 – which is a 4.8 percent increase over the $62,000 that Sanford’s spokesman was paid.
    Haley’s budget director, Jamie Shuster, will also make $65,000 – which is the same amount paid to Sanford’s budget director. Yet to be seen, however, is whether Haley will actually submit an operational executive budget as Sanford has done for the last eight years, or merely provide lawmakers with a handful of spending “suggestions.”

    Haley will also pay $65,000 a year to legislative liaison Katherine Veldran, while cabinet liaison Taylor Hall will make $70,000 a year. Another policy advisor, Josh Baker, will make $60,000 a year.

    Lawmakers appropriated $1.8 million to the governor’s office for the fiscal year beginning on July 1, 2010. It is unclear exactly how much of that money has been spent, although Haley has committed to paying 17 people a total of $1.2 million over the next year.

    Whereas Sanford’s office had eight employees making $50,000 a year or more, Haley’s office has twelve – and all of them are being paid more than their predecessors.

    Ironically, Haley claimed on Tuesday that she had “streamlined” the governor’s office.

    “We’re living within our means and we’re not borrowing from other agencies, which was done in the past,” Haley told reporter Jim Davenport of the Associated Press, who compiled the information.

    Giving her stated advocacy for limited government, the fact that Haley would create new staff positions and dole out these sorts of salary increases in any budget environment is startling. Given the current budget situation in South Carolina, it’s absolutely galling.

    These new expenses are totally unnecessary – and totally inconsistent with what Haley campaigned on.

    Oh well … at least we know now why Haley (who built her campaign around transparency in government) refused to publicly release salary information during her transition.

    So … what do you think of Haley’s executive salaries? Vote in our poll and then share your thoughts in our comments section below …
    What do you think of Nikki Haley's staff salaries?

    Excessive (88%, 6,958 Votes)
    Appropriate (9%, 670 Votes)
    Not sure (3%, 246 Votes)
    Total Voters: 7,874

    THE SOURCE …
    Haley Administration Salary Data
    Last edited by amy31416; 01-20-2011 at 11:00 PM.
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    I kinda had a little bit of hope for her...
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    I'm going to give her a chance. This is a drop in the bucket as money goes and as long as she picks a good path and sticks to it consistently, this won't be an issue with me, in itself.

    It's sort of like Ron is different from Rand, and their approaches and bright lines are in slightly different places, but I support both of them.

    I don't support Nikki yet, but I'd like her to convince me I should.

    Some people make their employees pay for their own fiscal reputation by keeping salaries artificially low, which is cheap at someone else's expense. If she is fiscally conservative, her record will make that clear, in bigger budgetary matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    I kinda had a little bit of hope for her...
    I have to wonder about anybody being serious with a name like Nikki, unless you're a hair band frontman or a porn star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    Some people make their employees pay for their own fiscal reputation by keeping salaries artificially low, which is cheap at someone else's expense. If she is fiscally conservative, her record will make that clear, in bigger budgetary matters.
    so the solution is keeping them high at taxpayers expense? it's still at someone else's expense.

    government salaries shouldn't rise in a recession. if people in the private sector are losing jobs, government bureaucrats shouldn't get a raise. if someone asked her for a raise, she should have said: "I'll consider it once the recession is over".
    Last edited by low preference guy; 01-20-2011 at 11:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I don't support Nikki yet, but I'd like her to convince me I should.
    Well as things goes this convinces me I shouldn't. We've been telling these people they spend too much money and the first thing they do is give themselves a raise? Even if it is to offset loses on cut benefits I do not care. This is a bad move at this point in time. A stupid move. A move that says I'm here to do business as usual.
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    Wow, this is crazy. If that was all I knew about her, I'd say she is the worst Gov in the nation. Oh well, I'll give her more time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by low preference guy View Post
    so the solution is keeping them high at taxpayers expense? it's still at someone else's expense.

    government salaries shouldn't rise in a recession. if people in the private sector are losing jobs, government bureaucrats shouldn't get a raise. if someone asked her for a raise, she should have said: "I'll consider it once the recession is over".
    I think Sanford may have forced them artificially low to bolster his image as a fiscal conservative. She may consider that pandering over substance, and may show her merit in much larger numbers, elsewhere. I don't know that, I don't know the prevailing wage there. I don't know if she's giving more in straight salaries but cutting back on benefits and perks. I just think it is possible they were too low, and am not going to judge against her for just this one thing. I don't like this sort of 'tiny issue as a litmus test' journalism, I don't like it when it is thrown at our guys, or anyone else. She may be a fake, but I'll see more of her record before I decide that. She's governor now. We have years to see how she pans out.
    Last edited by sailingaway; 01-21-2011 at 01:00 AM.

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    ^ i'm not saying she will be bad overall. i'm disagreeing on this issue.

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    MISLEADING.

    Governor Haley: "We're actually paying our staff less. I know that we are paying individuals more, but I believe you get what you pay for and so I have gotten the best of people in my staff. It is all about getting things done."

    Her -total- staff salary is less than what's budgeted, and it's $130,000 less than what Governor Sanford was budgeted.
    http://www2.wjbf.com/news/2011/jan/1...ws-ar-1343637/

    She cut spending. Change the thread title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingaway View Post
    I think Sanford may have forced them artificially low to bolster his image as a fiscal conservative. She may consider that pandering over substance, and may show her merit in much larger numbers, elsewhere. I don't know that, I don't know the prevailing wage there. I don't know if she's giving more in straight salaries but cutting back on benefits and perks. I just think it is possible they were too low, and am not going to judge against her for just this one thing. I don't like this sort of 'tiny issue as a litmus test' journalism, I don't like it when it is thrown at our guys, or anyone else. She may be a fake, but I'll see more of her record before I decide that. She's governor now. We have years to see how she pans out.
    Artificially low? I wonder what you think about NH's legislator salaries at 100$ a year. Frankly, I think being a representative, senator, etc. should go without a wage. You shouldn't get paid a cent. That would cut down on a lot of the liberty stealing legislation.
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    COLUMBIA - South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is defending the pay of her staff members, some of whom will make significantly more than their predecessors despite a looming $829 million state budget deficit.

    She will pay her chief of staff, Tim Pearson, $125,000 per year, a salary that is $27,000 more than former Gov. Mark Sanford paid his chief of staff, according to records obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.

    Pearson managed Haley's come-from-behind campaign that vaulted her past three other GOP contenders and a Democratic state senator. Trey Walker, a former political adviser, will make $122,775 as deputy chief of staff for communications and legislative affairs.

    Both of them will make more than Haley. The governor's salary is set by law at $106,078.

    Yolanda Cofield of Columbia says of the salaries, "Oh, it's just ridiculous. What the world is going through with the economy? It's just ridiculous."

    Haley said during her inauguration speech Wednesday, "In the days, weeks and months ahead, we have the opportunity to reduce state spending."

    When asked Friday why she's paying staff members more when the state is facing such a large deficit, she said, "We're actually paying our staff less. I know that we are paying individuals more, but I believe you get what you pay for and so I have gotten the best of people in my staff. It is all about getting things done. So while I may be paying them more, we're living within our means. We have not gone outside of our budget."

    Her total staff budget is $71,000 less than what was budgeted.

    She says her staff is already showing how it can save taxpayers money. She announced Friday that she's moving the employees of the Department of Alcohol and Other Drug Abuse Services into empty office space in the Department of Mental Health's building. She says the move will save taxpayers $700,000 in rent over four years and improve services, since drug and alcohol addictions are often linked to mental health problems.

    Still, taxpayer Everette Cromer says, "I don't think it's right in this budget crunch that we're having. We need to concentrate on services for people, not taking care of your friends."

    Some of Haley's staff salaries are more than those paid by Sanford but less than those paid by previous governors. Sanford is notoriously frugal.

    For example, Haley press secretary Rob Godfrey is being paid $65,000. Sanford's press secretary, Ben Fox, made $62,000. But Gov. Jim Hodges' press secretary was paid $67,900 and Gov. David Beasley's made $67,600.
    http://www2.scnow.com/news/2011/jan/...es-ar-1343824/

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    She's spending less than Sanford did.
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    That's a pretty big salary, in any case, for the median family income in South Carolina.

    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple View Post
    Artificially low? I wonder what you think about NH's legislator salaries at 100$ a year. Frankly, I think being a representative, senator, etc. should go without a wage. You shouldn't get paid a cent. That would cut down on a lot of the liberty stealing legislation.
    I certainly agree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple View Post
    Artificially low? I wonder what you think about NH's legislator salaries at 100$ a year. Frankly, I think being a representative, senator, etc. should go without a wage. You shouldn't get paid a cent. That would cut down on a lot of the liberty stealing legislation.
    I'm actually leaning towards taking the net worth of full-time politicians prior to getting elected, and mandating that their net-worth when leaving office should be the same, without adjusting for inflation (until such time when inflation is not created by government).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple View Post
    Artificially low? I wonder what you think about NH's legislator salaries at 100$ a year. Frankly, I think being a representative, senator, etc. should go without a wage. You shouldn't get paid a cent. That would cut down on a lot of the liberty stealing legislation.
    Yup, for state reps and state senators. Plus the state reps don't have staff or an office and their chamber doesn't even have AC. Plus there aren't metal detectors in the capital and everyone is allowed to carry a gun, knife or sword. Actually, the pay for elected government workers and their staff tends to be so much lower than in any other state, it's quite amazing. In other states, some legislatures make 60k-80k a year plus meals, travel and hotel but only $100 plus travel (and occasional hotel stays for the legislatures that live hours away from Concord) in NH. I even know some legislatures in NH that carpool. Of course, some of them tend to be husband/wife liberty lovers so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple View Post
    Artificially low? I wonder what you think about NH's legislator salaries at 100$ a year. Frankly, I think being a representative, senator, etc. should go without a wage. You shouldn't get paid a cent. That would cut down on a lot of the liberty stealing legislation.
    None of these salaries are for representatives, nor for herself, that is set by statute. They are for attorneys and chief of staff. And if she thinks, as some executives do, that paying her top staff top dollar will keep them keen for their duties including budget cutting and taking on parts of other people's jobs as necessary, that is an approach that has definitely been tried elsewhere with success. The question is whether it will work in this case. But if there were people she really wants as her top staff and they already have mortgages and tuition bills for their kids they can't change, they simply might not be available at a lower rate -- and if she has a good team that will save the state money and create good policy, lower salaries might be penny wise and pound foolish. And the median income is not the income you can hire the best legal and executive minds for, for example. A short term voluntary gig is one thing, but for a long term job it is different. You have to look at salaries for comparable jobs, and that is what I don't know: where the salaries out of line? They aren't screamingly out of line, to me, but I live in California which has a very high cost of living.
    Last edited by sailingaway; 01-21-2011 at 10:12 AM.

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    Forget Adultery... Talk about 'Sleeping With The Enemy'!

    If she doesn't come out and say I reduced the about of government jobs/costs and have the new staff doing much more, which saves South Carolinians tax money in the long run. If she doesn't convey this similar message/numbers, then it's like a One Termer... because this will be used against her over and over in the next primaries/general elections.
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    Well, that's bad, but you can never really trust what the media puts out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzloversinc View Post
    Well, that's bad, but you can never really trust what the media puts out.
    I had a hunch something else was going to come out when I first saw this thread. The media/democrats/unions did the EXACT same thing to Gov. Christie when he first got into office.

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    So a few people are getting paid more but others are making less, which results in a net savings, and this is a bad thing?
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    She's won. Now time for her henchmen to cash in.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If she doesn't come out and say I reduced the about of government jobs/costs and have the new staff doing much more, which saves South Carolinians tax money in the long run. If she doesn't convey this similar message/numbers, then it's like a One Termer... because this will be used against her over and over in the next primaries/general elections.
    There's nothing to use against her. She's paying for productivity, and spending less money than Gov. Sanford did. That's something she should tout.
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