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    Religious tolerance

    I have never been tolerant of other people's beliefs. When I was a Jehovah's witness, I was always right, even when I was clearly wrong (I know, I know, some of you are saying "You haven't changed YumYum). But I am changing, believe it or not. In fact, when I came on this forum I was almost atheist and one night two forum members were having a spiritual discussion about prayer. I was very intrigued with how they encouraged each other and how prayer has sustained them. So, began my journey to open my mind. I began to pray and I notice that my prayers are being answered. So, as I continue to explore my new found passion, I want to keep in mind that I must be tolerant of atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, and ever other belief system..

    This article really touched me. I totally related with it and I wanted to share....

    Being Jewish in a Christian World
    Submitted by Laura Sofen on December 13, 2010

    While I share some aspects of my life with my students, one thing I don’t share is that I was born Jewish. I am ashamed of my shame, knowing that Jews, like many religious groups, have suffered because of their beliefs. My shame comes from growing up in a community that seemed to typify every negative stereotype about Jews. It also stems from being silent for years whenever someone made an anti-Semitic comment.

    There isn’t much religious diversity at our school. The overwhelming majority of students and staff practice some form of Christianity. There are a couple of Muslims, a handful of Jews and that’s about it. Like many school districts, ours is only closed on Christian holidays. There are holiday decorations up in classrooms, but they only represent Christmas.

    If I harbored any doubts about how some people felt about Jews, they were quickly confirmed the other day. Walking down the hallway, I overheard one student say to another in wide-eyed shock, “I had no idea you were Jewish.” And there it was, that disdainful tone that still makes my skin crawl.

    Perhaps I should have kept walking. I certainly considered it. Instead, I gathered all my courage and said, “So am I.” My dirty little secret was out of the bag, and there would be no turning back.

    News travels fast in our school, and it wasn’t long before a cluster of students entered the classroom saying, “Ms. Sofen, you’re Jewish?” as if I had kept my true identity hidden from them all this time.

    It’s really nobody’s business what I practice, observe or believe. But here was a teachable moment, and I’m allergic to ignoring those.

    “Both of my parents were Jewish,” I told them. “I don’t practice, but I used to be really ashamed of being Jewish.” Of course they wanted to know why. Middle school kids understand shame pretty well.

    “There are a lot of people who hate Jews,” I told them, reminding them of when we discussed the Holocaust and Oskar Schindler. “I was embarrassed to be identified with a group that so many people hate,” I confessed.

    Their eyes were wide and kind, and then they smiled. “We don’t hate you, Ms. Sofen. We don’t care what you are.” Part of me knew they would say that, but part of me was also relieved.

    Sometimes we need to teach tolerance to ourselves before we can teach it to others.

    http://www.tolerance.org/blog/being-...hristian-world
    "..and on Earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out...while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited Earth." -- Jesus of Nazareth



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    Maybe a different way to think about it isnt from a Religious perspective but a Military perspective.

    As in, you are a person that is enlisted in the Military. Doesn't matter which country, every country thinks theirs is the only one that is right. But for the average G.I. Joe, what should not be important is the fact that they are willing to die to protect the lives and the rights of the people with the same or similar beliefs, on the contrary, to protect the lives and the rights of the people with completely opposite points of view. Popular Speech will not need the Constitutional protection of Free Speech, it is the Unpopular Speech that the Constitutional protection is written for.

    I believe that when religious individuals offer their lives to protect the lives of people that are not of the same faith, we will truly be one step closer towards having World Peace.
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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Wow! Thank you for that post YumYum. That gives me a lot to think about on many levels. This immediately came to mind.

    By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. John 13:35
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Great video on religious tolerance
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eam-z1bwrk
    “You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
    To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Wow! Thank you for that post YumYum. That gives me a lot to think about on many levels. This immediately came to mind.

    By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. John 13:35
    I'm glad you liked it. I enjoy discussing scriptures with you. I'm sorry I have been so exacting and obstinate at times, but I'm trying to figure all this out. I love that scripture. It makes total sense. We can discuss views and have different opinions and not agree with each other on certain topics, but our love of Jesus should bond us, not divide us. The apostles didn't agree at times, but they had one thing in common: their love of Jesus. That love united them, even though they had different viewpoints. I do agree with Paul when he said "Love conquers all!"
    "..and on Earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out...while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited Earth." -- Jesus of Nazareth

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    Quote Originally Posted by YumYum View Post
    I'm glad you liked it. I enjoy discussing scriptures with you. I'm sorry I have been so exacting and obstinate at times, but I'm trying to figure all this out. I love that scripture. It makes total sense. We can discuss views and have different opinions and not agree with each other on certain topics, but our love of Jesus should bond us, not divide us. The apostles didn't agree at times, but they had one thing in common: their love of Jesus. That love united them, even though they had different viewpoints. I do agree with Paul when he said "Love conquers all!"
    Great and uplifting observation! Here's a not so uplifting observation. This thread only has 4 replies. If it was another "Evolution/creation/Christianity/Islam is evil/wrong/stupid/communist" thread it would be up to 10 pages by now.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Excellent OP, yumyum. I am in total agreement with you that we should be tolerant of other people's religious beliefs if they do not harm others and if they afford mutual tolerance. I abhor the idea of someone being physically forced or threatened to believe anything, including religion. That being said, I know sometimes my zeal is not helpful nor constructive and may cause more harm than good, and I apologize to everyone here, especially ibaghdadi and the other Muslims who frequent these boards for my crude and insensitive remarks. It is true when he says that I have preconceived notions, but what I am trying to do is have these notions challenged so that I might gain some wisdom I do not have and some understanding I admittedly lack. Perhaps such discussions are better done in a private setting or better yet, face to face.

    I again ask forgiveness from everyone for my curtness and inflammatory remarks. I will try better in the future to avoid such discussions altogether. Please, above all, do not judge Christ's teachings with my sinfulness. I still have much to learn.
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ



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