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    James Yeager's gun carry permit suspended by TN

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50429293/n.../#.UPCUj_JyGSo

    A Middle Tennessee firearms trainer who made an ominous and very public promise in a YouTube video that gained national attention this week, has had his handgun carry permit suspended Friday by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security.
    James Yeager, 42, had his permit suspended based on a "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public," the department said in a statement.
    Yeager told Channel 4 News he is aware of the suspension, and his attorney will handle his statements going forward.
    The department said Yeager has the right to seek a review of the decision.
    Man's YouTube video gains national attention
    James Yeager is a man with an impressive resume, including time as a small-town police chief and serving in security in Baghdad, but he said he spoke in anger when he made the video.
    "I'm telling you, if that happens, it's going to spark a civil war, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot," Yeager said in a video on his YouTube page.
    He was reacting to a recent comment from Vice President Joe Biden that the Obama administration may take executive action to pass control measures.
    "I'm not going to let anyone take my guns. If it goes one inch further, I'm going to start killing people," he said in the YouTube video.
    Yeager pulled the comments from YouTube after receiving backlash, and he said Thursday he didn't mean what he said.
    "I was angry when I made the video and probably should have metered my words better. I am not plotting to kill any officials or anything like that," Yeager told Channel 4 News.
    Yeager runs Tactical Response, a training center in Camden, TN, that specializes in weapons and tactical skills. The door of the business notes the staff is trained to kill.
    The well-armed clientele was already making neighbors at the strip mall nervous, and then they heard the video.
    "The guy needs to chill it. You know, you make those threats, and you've said that and now you come around the wrong person, you get hurt like that," said John Eaker, who owns a nearby pawn shop.
    "He may get more than he asks if he keeps running that yak on the internet, you know," another neighbor said.
    Yeager said he knows he's considered a radical in his views, but he's is not backing off comments that he will defend his right to bear arms in spite of getting death threats by email.
    "It will be time to shoot people when the Constitution is set on fire," he said in the YouTube video. "If somebody comes to take my guns, I will shoot them."
    According the Tennessee Department of Safety, Yeager is not a certified instructor. When asked about that, he said he allowed his license to expire.
    The state also said Tactical Response is not a department-certified school.
    Yeager served as police chief of the town of Big Sandy, TN, about a decade ago. The former mayor said Yeager is intelligent and a crack shot, but he thought Yeager's plan to start a SWAT team wasn't what the quiet town of 500 people really needed, so the mayor fired him.
    Despite the threatening emails and phone calls, Yeager said he has received far more messages of support.
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."



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    What the government grant'th, they can take'th away.

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    Watch his business license get suspended next.
    “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.” Lying Sack of Crap

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    This is how it works: one at a time the vocal get squashed.

    Will he continue to carry concealed without a permit? Why did he get a permit (ask permission) in the first place? Is he a hot head full of talk but no action? And what is with the expired instructor certification? Was that a protest? Is his You Tube channel nothing more than a money-making ploy? He says he is not plotting to kill any officials or anything like that, but his videos do advocate being prepared to (planning to) kill officials (in general, not specifically).

    Lives, fortunes, sacred honor....

    State playing whack-a-mole....
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    This is how it works: one at a time the vocal get squashed.

    Will he continue to carry concealed without a permit? Why did he get a permit (ask permission) in the first place? Is he a hot head full of talk but no action? And what is with the expired instructor certification? Was that a protest? Is his You Tube channel nothing more than a money-making ploy? He says he is not plotting to kill any officials or anything like that, but his videos do advocate being prepared to (planning to) kill officials (in general, not specifically).

    Lives, fortunes, sacred honor....

    State playing whack-a-mole....
    I wonder if he is a company man and this is all just a smokescreen to further the agenda of gun control. Honestly you can't really trust anyone. We already know that the FBI likes to set people up and turn them into terrorists.
    “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.” Lying Sack of Crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by shane77m View Post
    I wonder if he is a company man and this is all just a smokescreen to further the agenda of gun control. Honestly you can't really trust anyone. We already know that the FBI likes to set people up and turn them into terrorists.
    Good questions. The anti-gunners are having a field day with this on Facebook....
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    I'm pretty sure they just crossed his threshold.

    So is this a lesson of "don't say it unless you mean it?"

    Or... has TN made it clear where they're at?
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public,"
    If he is serious I don't think it is the "public" that he wants to harm.
    “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.” Lying Sack of Crap



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    Quote Originally Posted by shane77m View Post
    If he is serious I don't think it is the "public" that he wants to harm.
    True.

    Will anyone in his area come to his defense if someone comes to arrest him? If he should be arrested, will anyone break him out? Or will he rot, alone?
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by madengr View Post
    What the government grant'th, they can take'th away.
    Precisely.

    This man has been convicted of no crime that I know of but yet the government has suspended his permit. Let this be an example as to why one should not first ask permission to keep and bear arms.

    Logic follows that if you have to ask permission, then it's a privilege, and not a right. Privileges can be revoked at any time for any reason as this case demonstrates.


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    This part of the article I find especially interesting:

    Yeager served as police chief of the town of Big Sandy, TN, about a decade ago. The former mayor said Yeager is intelligent and a crack shot, but he thought Yeager's plan to start a SWAT team wasn't what the quiet town of 500 people really needed, so the mayor fired him.
    Yeah, that's all we need, another SWAT team.
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    WOW!
    "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

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    Is anyone here a member of his forums? www.GetOffTheX.com Must be a member to read....
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    This part of the article I find especially interesting:



    Yeah, that's all we need, another SWAT team.

    Can't get on board with that.

    But is it true?

    Couldn't he just tell him not to start a swat team instead of firing him?
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 View Post
    Can't get on board with that.

    But is it true?

    Couldn't he just tell him not to start a swat team instead of firing him?
    Does seem pretty drastic, doesn't it. You have to wonder what all happened there.
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2 View Post
    Can't get on board with that.

    But is it true?

    Couldn't he just tell him not to start a swat team instead of firing him?
    Apparently the dude has a colored history. Something about leaving behind a wounded soldier in the middle of combat.

    In any case, until more is known about this, I would encourage people to judge the situation, and not the man. Discrediting people like Yeager (whether true or false), is a well established tactic of psy ops...

    Do your own research on him, is what I'd say.
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    wish he'd move to louisiana.
    then he would need no permits and he'd be around people who'd appreciate his talents.
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    How this turns out should be interesting. Could he be the one that fires the second shot heard around the world?
    “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.” Lying Sack of Crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    Does seem pretty drastic, doesn't it. You have to wonder what all happened there.

    I have to assume "public officials" lie when convenient or paid. Experience. That's also not how they normally deal with their law enforcement buddies.

    Can we find any cops anywhere who were fired for suggesting a swat team? I doubt it happens much.

    It's clearly sticky-icky $#@!, and will get worse as time goes on - regardless of this particular thing.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    i wonder if Piers Morgan will have him on for one of his 'debates'...

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    *debating signing up for his forum just to see what interesting discussions are taking place there*
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Dude should have got a permit for his 1st amendment rights too. You cant yell fire in a theater. /s

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    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane77m View Post
    I wonder if he is a company man and this is all just a smokescreen to further the agenda of gun control. Honestly you can't really trust anyone. We already know that the FBI likes to set people up and turn them into terrorists.
    Yea, that crossed my mind as well. While not everyone that is in (or has been in) government LEO service is in cahoots with one another, its not out of the realm of possibility. What he did was completely and utterly stupid, but no different from the $#@! Chief of Police in Chicago.

    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...0826/#comments

    I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Red Leg View Post
    Yea, that crossed my mind as well. While not everyone that is in (or has been in) government LEO service is in cahoots with one another, its not out of the realm of possibility. What he did was completely and utterly stupid, but no different from the $#@! Chief of Police in Chicago.

    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...0826/#comments
    It just concerns me that he came and said what his intentions were/are. Seems like if he really meant what he said, he wouldn't have said it. I dunno. I guess we will have to wait and see.
    “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.” Lying Sack of Crap



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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Precisely.

    This man has been convicted of no crime that I know of but yet the government has suspended his permit. Let this be an example as to why one should not first ask permission to keep and bear arms.

    Logic follows that if you have to ask permission, then it's a privilege, and not a right. Privileges can be revoked at any time for any reason as this case demonstrates.


    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50429293/n.../#.UPCUj_JyGSo
    Exactly! Permits are permission slips to do something that would otherwise be illegal. The Second Amendment is only a privilege according to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    That one sucks here's the better one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    This part of the article I find especially interesting:

    Yeah, that's all we need, another SWAT team.
    If true, that is extremely statist behavior. I know TN is a very dangerous place with a lot of crime, but even in TN, most towns of 500 people don't need anything more than 1 part-time cop, at most. There are towns several times that size without cops where I live.

    Unfortunately in TN, you cannot carry openly without government permission. It might be a holdover from the slave days. 50 years ago, gun laws were horrible throughout the South. TN has made some progress but gun laws are still pretty restrictive
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    He got his permit back.
    “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.” Lying Sack of Crap

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