Time to finally create high speed trains

[Fredom101]

All of this TSA madness is causing people to not fly and either sacrifice their plans or waste time driving.

But air travel SHOULD be outdated at this point. Bullet trains can get people place MUCH faster than planes, and much more safely. IF we had a free market, air travel would be a thing of the past and we'd be getting on trains that would take us from LA to SF in a mater of a couple of hours. They're already invented, but the government is blocking progress.

This is what really upsets me about all this. Everything the government does just impedes progress. Hopefully there is a huge agorist backlash to all this and people figure out better ways to travel and give the proverbial middle finger to the TSA AND the welfare-queen airlines.

[jmdrake]

I'm curious. How is the government blocking progress on bullet trains? Last I heard the government was keeping Amtrack on life support and Obama was trying to get states to accept "stimulus" money for bullet trains but that's not getting rebuffed by newly elected republican governors. Anyway, trains aren't the answer to the TSA madness. They've already hinted that they'll expand their tyranny to ground based mass transit.

[cswake]

Forget bullet trains, why do you think the TSA will stop at airplanes? The TSA is not worried about hijacking(s), because the gun and steel doors solved that. They're concerned about a random person walking into a public place and blowing people up. Any public place qualifies and "safeguarding" airplanes is just the start.

[noxagol]

Trains with cargo space on the bottom to park your car and passenger space up top to sit in while you travel.

Not to mention, if trains got popular then they would just be at train stations too, the TSA that is.

[oyarde]

As far as I know , feds already work the trains on the Northeast seaboard . They use Immigration though .

[Fredom101]

I'm curious. How is the government blocking progress on bullet trains? Last I heard the government was keeping Amtrack on life support and Obama was trying to get states to accept "stimulus" money for bullet trains but that's not getting rebuffed by newly elected republican governors. Anyway, trains aren't the answer to the TSA madness. They've already hinted that they'll expand their tyranny to ground based mass transit.

By not allowing a free market they are impeding progress. Amtrak is a joke because of government control. Allowing competition in trains would give us all kinds of neat stuff that we can't imagine now, because gov't is in the way. Remember, stimulus money is the reverse of progress.

[Fredom101]

Forget bullet trains, why do you think the TSA will stop at airplanes? The TSA is not worried about hijacking(s), because the gun and steel doors solved that. They're concerned about a random person walking into a public place and blowing people up. Any public place qualifies and "safeguarding" airplanes is just the start.

Yes I'm saying in a free market scenario. I guess I'm smoking some good stuff tonight.

[jmdrake]

By not allowing a free market they are impeding progress. Amtrak is a joke because of government control. Allowing competition in trains would give us all kinds of neat stuff that we can't imagine now, because gov't is in the way. Remember, stimulus money is the reverse of progress.

Well that's one way to look at it. Another way is that the "free market" in this country doesn't want trains. The countries that have bullet trains aren't exactly "free market". But hey, lets scrap Amtrack and see what happens. In the meantime the TSA has made it clear they're going after ground mass transit anyway so the porno scan / pat down issue doesn't seem relevant.

[Fredom101]

Well that's one way to look at it. Another way is that the "free market" in this country doesn't want trains. The countries that have bullet trains aren't exactly "free market". But hey, lets scrap Amtrack and see what happens. In the meantime the TSA has made it clear they're going after ground mass transit anyway so the porno scan / pat down issue doesn't seem relevant.

Well we don't know what the market wants because government subsidizes airlines as well as Amtrak. My point is more that we need a free market, meaning, massive progress and market-driven security.

[jmdrake]

Well we don't know what the market wants because government subsidizes airlines as well as Amtrak. My point is more that we need a free market, meaning, massive progress and market-driven security.

I agree. I think the first step is to petition city councils to throw the TSA out of municiple airports.