Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper's New Born From Hospital

[VegasPatriot]

Dan Itse.

Already got a call into him

You read Stewart's mind. Can I PM you with Stewart's phone number so you can pass it to Dan?

[ericsnow]

The document John Irish sent to us is from the State of New Hampshire Judicial Branch; it is a Juvenile Abuse / Neglect Ex Parte Order with an attached affidavit.

This affidavit has a long list of reasons why the State became involved… one of the reasons: “The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the, “Oath Keepers,” and had purchased several different types of weapons including a rifle, handgun and taser.”

There are other items listed in the affidavit besides the association with Oath Keepers.

That being said… even though OK is not a militia, since when is it a crime to be involved in a militia?

Were any of the other reasons listed anything serious like illegal drug use or past child abuse?

[specsaregood]

There are other items listed in the affidavit besides the association with Oath Keepers.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that those other items are relevent here.

That being said… even though OK is not a militia, since when is it a crime to be involved in a militia?

Did it say it was a crime? Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it is a suitable environment for a child.

[JenH88]

Were any of the other reasons listed anything serious like illegal drug use or past child abuse?

+1

what are the other reasons listed?

[Anti Federalist]

You read Stewart's mind. Can I PM you with Stewart's phone number so you can pass it to Dan?

Sure, but I just updated the post with Itse's contact number and email, all public domain btw.

[VegasPatriot]

Were any of the other reasons listed anything serious like illegal drug use or past child abuse?

Yes there are some serious allegations, however these are allegations... it does not mean they are true. But even a more fundemental point is that the mere association with OK or any other organization is not valid grounds for taking someones child away. If we allow that to happen people will be afraid to speak. That's called chilling their speech in first amendment law lingo.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

Why the hell would it matter what these people did in the past? I don't care if they snorted a mountain of cocaine and beat themselves with steel dildos while wearing bugs bunny costumes.. The government has no right to barge in and remove a child from their biological parents when they have done no harm to that child.

And since when does the government get to decide what an appropriate home is for this child? So the government has a right to also make our moral decisions now?

[VegasPatriot]

Sure, but I just updated the post with Itse's contact number and email, all public domain btw.

Thanks, Stewart will call Dan tomorrow.

[tpreitzel]

But even a more fundemental point is that the mere association with OK or any other organization is not valid grounds for taking someones child away. If we allow that to happen people will be afraid to speak. That's called chilling their speech in first amendment law lingo.

Right ... that particular point, i.e. his involvement in OK, should NEVER have made the list if this situation is actually true.

[specsaregood]

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