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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Good!

    I wonder how many people showed up?

    200 is the over/under. GO!



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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    But as you can see: http://freebabycheyenne.com/
    Some are using the baby and the family as pawns in the debate.
    Huh? How is making a page to help the family using them as pawns in the debate? What debate?

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    WMUR is reporting that an FBI K-9 unit was called out to hospital to sniff for bombs during protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarepusher View Post
    that blog seems to really be pumping the Oath Keepers, but for all we know, he is using the Oath Keepers to fund his legal defense for reasons that aren't not strongly related.


    Yes it was wrong that whatever affidavit mentioned anything about the Oath Keppers in a negative tone that would in anyway look bad upon him. However it appears this certainly isn't about, "they took my baby caus im an oath keeper"
    YES THIS IS about the father's political activities and also the parents being gun owners.

    This is a political hit by kidnapping in order to terrorize and intimidate patriots. THAT IS ALL THAT THIS IS ABOUT.

    These social workers are malignant statists who do this shit all over the country.


    This is TYPICAL of these criminals:

    San Diego, CA (PRWEB) June 18, 2010
    A California Appellate Court found this week against Orange County and its Social Services Agency, and Affirmed what is called a “Substantial” damages award arising from a Civil Rights Verdict obtained in May 2007.

    After in depth review of extensive briefs and a complex record, Division Three of the Fourth District Court of Appeal for the State of California issues its opinion today affirming an Orange County jury’s verdict awarding Deanna Fogarty-Hardwick approximately $4.9 million against the County of Orange, and two of its social workers.

    In its opinion, the Court of Appeal voiced its concerns over what happened to Ms. Fogarty-Hardwick: “Stated plainly, the outcome of this case cannot be dismissed as merely the unfortunate product of a runaway jury. The evidence adduced at trial obviously caused both the jury and the judge to conclude not only that something seriously wrong was done to Fogarty-Hardwick in this case, but also that the wrongful conduct was not an isolated incident. That conclusion is something the County should be taking very seriously.”

    The underlying case was filed by Deanna Fogarty-Hardwick against the County of Orange in February 2001. The suit alleged that Orange County, social worker Marcia Vreeken and her supervisor Helen Dwojak violated Ms. Fogarty-Hardwick’s constitutional rights to raise and associate with her children free from governmental interference.

    On March 23,2007 an Orange County Jury found against Orange County, social worker Marcia Vreeken, and social worker supervisor Helen Dwojak and awarded monetary damages of $4.9 million. A third social worker, Elaine Wilkins was found not liable.

    Lead attorney Shawn A. McMillan states: “Ms. Fogarty is very pleased with the Court of Appeal’s decision to uphold the verdict. This case encompasses extremely important issues for the people of Orange County, and the People of the State of California. Allegations of social worker misconduct of the type proven in this case is "ubiquitous" as admitted in an Amicus Brief filed by the California Association of Counties. Hopefully, the 52 counties that belong to the association will take note of the outcome of this case and promulgate policies to prevent their social workers from engaging in this type of conduct in the future.”

    San Diego Lawyer Shawn A. McMillan, of the Law Offices of Shawn A.
    McMillan, was lead trial counsel in the case, and the lead
    appellate attorney. Attorney Sondra Sutherland was co-counsel at trial and assisted on the appeal.

    RE: Fogarty-Hardwick v. County of Orange, et al.
    Superior Court of California, County of Orange
    Case No. 01CC02379 (Trial before Hon. Ronald L. Bauer, Dept. CX103)

    http://www.prweb.com/releases/Fogart...web4157254.htm

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    Sorry I'm behind on all of this. I can't keep up with all of the forums I'm on.

    I just heard Alex Jones say that New Hampshire is moving to TERMINATE the mother's parental rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It would make sense for unrelated associations to be thrown out (during due process) as being immaterial or inadmissible. Your NAMBLA example would probably be considered relevant in a child molestation case...
    If the guy was an convicted criminal with his gun rights revoked then an association with what they thought was a militia group (O.K.) could be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Sorry I'm behind on all of this. I can't keep up with all of the forums I'm on.

    I just heard Alex Jones say that New Hampshire is moving to TERMINATE the mother's parental rights.
    Just heard? Is Alex back live or are you listening to the re broadcast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    YES THIS IS about the father's political activities and also the parents being gun owners.

    This is a political hit by kidnapping in order to terrorize and intimidate patriots. THAT IS ALL THAT THIS IS ABOUT.
    Then back up your assertion with something... like an affidavit or other documents...

    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    This is TYPICAL of these criminals:
    I do not care what is typical. I know what is typical. I want to know all of the relevant facts for the matter at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    If the guy was an convicted criminal with his gun rights revoked then an association with what they thought was a militia group (O.K.) could be made.
    Well, guilt by association doesn't stand on it's own, even if it were to be allowed.

    In this child custody case, it's hard to see any relevance. As TorchBearer said, they will just throw anything in there to see if it sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    If the guy was an convicted criminal with his gun rights revoked then an association with what they thought was a militia group (O.K.) could be made.
    I have found no convictions of anything. I heard allegations, Apparently he had a Concealed Carry.
    But some questionable bust that is being contested. a technicality that is being called weapons violations..

    I believe the term I am looking for is character assassination .
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