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Thread: Deregulated Roads: The Netherlands Experience

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    They have done this in a few spots in a town near where I live. At first, people I talked to that lived there didn't like it and nor did I. However, as time went on and I thought about it, I like it a lot better. I'm not sitting at a traffic light for 3 minutes waiting for it to turn green while there is no traffic coming at all. I can just go and go about my business. The longest I have waited was a minute once, and that was during particularly heavy traffic.
    "Anarchists oppose the State because it has its very being in such aggression, namely, the expropriation of private property through taxation, the coercive exclusion of other providers of defense service from its territory, and all of the other depredations and coercions that are built upon these twin foci of invasions of individual rights." -Murray Rothbard

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    Really cool video, thanks for posting! Now we have more fuel for the inevitable "what about the roads?" argument that everyone loves to throw out there so often.

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    Roads remind me of preschool. So many rules and signs that you have to pay attention to instead of focusing on the road. They treat drivers like children whom if it wasn't for all these signs utter chaos would reign.
    "Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie

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    One sign they really need to improve is street signs. They need to be BIGGER. They are small and hard to read before you are right on top of them, even with my better than perfect vision. Often times going the speed limit is too fast to read them in time, and stop without stopping too fast and getting rear ended by the guy behind you.
    "Anarchists oppose the State because it has its very being in such aggression, namely, the expropriation of private property through taxation, the coercive exclusion of other providers of defense service from its territory, and all of the other depredations and coercions that are built upon these twin foci of invasions of individual rights." -Murray Rothbard

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    In a private road system, the market would chose find out what is more efficient. Bigger signs? Less signs? More?
    "Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces."-Étienne de La Boétie

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    I love to bring this stuff up whenever some statist says, "Well, if you want to deregulate everything, do you want to get rid of traffic lights too???!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYgs23 View Post
    I love to bring this stuff up whenever some statist says, "Well, if you want to deregulate everything, do you want to get rid of traffic lights too???!"
    There may be places in a free society where traffic lights DO make sense, but that decision would not be left up to some centralized bureaucracy, it would be driven by the market. The right system would be implemented far more often than in today's one-size-fits-all road system.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredom101 View Post
    Really cool video, thanks for posting! Now we have more fuel for the inevitable "what about the roads?" argument that everyone loves to throw out there so often.
    And its Europe. You know the socialist deregulators... oh, wait

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    Here is an article on this from April.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer213.html

    Just one more example of how spontaneous order arises out of chaos when people are allowed to act freely. Society does not need centralized planners running every little bit of our daily lives. They do not have the knowledge or the capability to organize society better than society can organize itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    here is an article on this from april.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer213.html

    just one more example of how spontaneous order arises out of chaos when people are allowed to act freely. Society does not need centralized planners running every little bit of our any part of our daily lives. They do not have the knowledge or the capability to organize society better than society can organize itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple View Post
    ftfy.
    thanx
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    I like Traffic circles much better than traditional intersections. No waiting, easy to spot the intersection from a distance, all traffic from all directions slows approaching the very visible obstacle, no-one waits very long or at all if they time their approach properly.
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    Nice thread, thanks.
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