Muslim Free Market Libertarian Think Tank

[Matt Collins]

Ahmad Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad is President of the Minaret of Freedom Institute, a free market Muslim think tank based in Bethesda, Maryland. He is a libertarian who has been active in the Libertarian Party and the Ron Paul for President campaign, among many, many other libertarian activities. He is an internationally known interdisciplinary scientist and author, and writes and speaks widely on libertarianism and Islam.

He argues that free speech, religious freedom, free markets and peace are not only compatible with Islam, they are an integral part of it. He works to bring this message to both Islamic and non-Islamic audiences.

Following are links to more on his views.

* "An Interview with Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad," by Ariel Goldring, Free Market Mojo website. This short interview gives a good overview of Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad's views on the compatibility of libertarianism and Islam.

Excerpts: "Islam is a complete way of life. Its political system, in my humble opinion, is libertarian, and its economic system is free market. ... Islam is not only compatible with free markets, but rather pointedly promotes many of their aspects including free trade, voluntary exchange, transparent and enforceable contracts, the making of honest profit, and no limitations on wealth accumulation."

* The Minaret of Freedom Institute has a great deal of information on free markets, civil liberties, foreign policy in relation to Islam.

[FrankRep]

Sharia Law is Libertarian?

[FrankRep]

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Libertarian


Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Islam incompatible with Libertarian ideals


Libertarian Republican.net
April 8, 2010


HUMAN RIGHTS FROM THE RIGHT

Ayaan Ali Hirsi spoke on the campus of North Michigan University last Wednesday. The former Dutch Parliamentarian and friend/colleague of Dutch MP Geert Wilders, addressed an audience of over 400 attendees.

The title of her speech was "Refuse to be Silenced." Hirsi is a victim of Islamic violence, and threats. First, as a young girl, she was forced to undergo female circumcision. From her speech:

"There is female genital mutilation that happens at the age of 5, 6 or 7 that is a sewing of the genitals and the cutting off of the clitoris to ensure that you are a virgin when you reach the age of marriage,” Ali said. “It’s justified in the name of Islam..."

When she fled to the Netherlands, Islamic radicals from her homeland in Somalia and even in Western Europe, threatened her life. As a Freedom-supporting Member of the Dutch Parliament she watched as an ally Pim Forturn was murdered on the street from a Muslim-sympathizing political extremist. And then two years later her partner Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was similarly murdered.

From Booker T. Rising "Libertarian Activist gives Speech on Islam & Woman's Rights":

“It’s very important to know that Islam as a theology, the political and social dimension of Islam, and not the religious aspects, are not just dangerous but also incompatible with the American doctrine of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” Ms. Hirsi Ali, a libertarian feminist who was born in Somalia, said.

Ms. Hirsi Ali, who is an atheist, said that the peace-loving and law-abiding majority of Muslims turn a blind eye to the injustices that occur often in their culture. “When Muslims commit violent crimes in the name of the Qur’an...the peace-loving majority goes into denial, they become defensive,” she said.

Ms. Hirsi Ali, who is a former Dutch parliamentarian, said she was attracted to the U.S. because of the freedom of expression and the freedom to dissent. Under sharia law, Ms. Hirsi Ali said women have to be especially careful to not speak...

From the North Wind (NMU):

Junior Melanie Bell, chairperson for the event, said Ali has a unique viewpoint being an apostate in the eyes of her Muslim family and friends.

“Ali has faced adversity in her life that most will never come close to knowing,” Bell said.

Bell also said that because of her outspoken nature, Ali has angered some Islamic extremists.

“Her short film ‘Submission,’ about the oppression of women under the Islamic faith, drew great attention,” she said.

Even though Ali has become a target of Islamic extremists who wish to silence her, she continues speaking because the message she conveys transcends the blind hatred of radicals.

“As more people become aware of the violence, it will become more difficult for people to ignore it,” Ali said.

Note - in 2007, Libertarian Republican blog proclaimed. Ms. Ali "Libertarian of the Year."


SOURCE:
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net...ible-with.html

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

I really get tired of reading anti-Islam propaganda when there are more hypocritical self identified Christians right here in the United States.

During his six years in office as governor of Texas, Mr Bush commuted one death sentence and allowed 152 to go ahead.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4493978.stm

And the current jackass in office also supports killing Americans by executive order.

Pro LIFE... Pro LIFE... Pro LIFE... and I strongly support the death penalty!

I have enough self identified Christians dicking me in the United States I could really care less about Muslims a few thousand miles away.

People in the United States are first in the bitch line about Muslims and first in line to consume oil produced in the middle east.

People in the United States are first in the bitch line about Sharia Law and first to complain about the judicial racket in the United States.

How hypocritical can American's get?

[ibaghdadi]

Sharia Law is Libertarian?

Well maybe not libertarian, but there are many meeting points.

I'm writing a whole book about it.

Citing Ayan Hirsi Ali to characterize Islam is like citing Karl Marx to characterize Free Market Capitalism.

BTW, FGM (female gential mutilation) is an African cultural practice that predates both Christianity and Islam. FGM is unknown in Muslim societies outside of Africa.

Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad has a very interesting body of writings indeed. Search him on Youtube.

[emazur]

saved for later, thanks

[ibaghdadi]

How hypocritical can American's get?

Well apparently enough to characterize this...

the peace-loving and law-abiding majority of Muslims turn a blind eye to the injustices that occur often in their culture.

...as a purely "Muslim" problem.

[Imperial]

SOURCE:
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net...ible-with.html

Eric Dondero [who runs the website you cited] has declared lots of people to be libertarian. I would suggest using some independent thought to decide on an ad hoc basis who is libertarian.

[steve005]

http://www.youtube.com/user/Propheti.../9/9MHjqevr5xE

[FrankRep]

[Sharia Law] Well maybe not libertarian, but there are many meeting points.

How free are the Islamic countries around the world?

[silverhandorder]

Any Religion whether it is Islam or Christianity is highly contradictory if you read the entire scripture. There is something there for everyone. One can read the holy books and come out a terrorist or a peace advocate or a libertarian. Point being I do not like to bash religion whether it is Islam or Christianity because that is simply a distraction from an issue. In this care the guy from OP is doing good work and trying to spread libertarianism his religious denomination which is awesome.

[pcosmar]

How free are the Islamic countries around the world?

Good question from someone living in a country with the largest Prison population in the world.
mostly of Non-violent offenses.

[ibaghdadi]

How free are the Islamic countries around the world?

How liberal was Europe in the middle ages?

If it was decidedly anti-liberal, was it because of an inherent flaw in Christianity?

[Carl Corey]

How liberal was Europe in the middle ages?

If it was decidedly anti-liberal, was it because of an inherent flaw in Christianity?

Mostly caused by illiteracy, not exactly a problem Muslims have.

[Fozz]

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Libertarian


Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Islam incompatible with Libertarian ideals


Libertarian Republican.net
April 8, 2010


HUMAN RIGHTS FROM THE RIGHT

Ayaan Ali Hirsi spoke on the campus of North Michigan University last Wednesday. The former Dutch Parliamentarian and friend/colleague of Dutch MP Geert Wilders, addressed an audience of over 400 attendees.

The title of her speech was "Refuse to be Silenced." Hirsi is a victim of Islamic violence, and threats. First, as a young girl, she was forced to undergo female circumcision. From her speech:

"There is female genital mutilation that happens at the age of 5, 6 or 7 that is a sewing of the genitals and the cutting off of the clitoris to ensure that you are a virgin when you reach the age of marriage,” Ali said. “It’s justified in the name of Islam..."

When she fled to the Netherlands, Islamic radicals from her homeland in Somalia and even in Western Europe, threatened her life. As a Freedom-supporting Member of the Dutch Parliament she watched as an ally Pim Forturn was murdered on the street from a Muslim-sympathizing political extremist. And then two years later her partner Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was similarly murdered.

From Booker T. Rising "Libertarian Activist gives Speech on Islam & Woman's Rights":

“It’s very important to know that Islam as a theology, the political and social dimension of Islam, and not the religious aspects, are not just dangerous but also incompatible with the American doctrine of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” Ms. Hirsi Ali, a libertarian feminist who was born in Somalia, said.

Ms. Hirsi Ali, who is an atheist, said that the peace-loving and law-abiding majority of Muslims turn a blind eye to the injustices that occur often in their culture. “When Muslims commit violent crimes in the name of the Qur’an...the peace-loving majority goes into denial, they become defensive,” she said.

Ms. Hirsi Ali, who is a former Dutch parliamentarian, said she was attracted to the U.S. because of the freedom of expression and the freedom to dissent. Under sharia law, Ms. Hirsi Ali said women have to be especially careful to not speak...

From the North Wind (NMU):

Junior Melanie Bell, chairperson for the event, said Ali has a unique viewpoint being an apostate in the eyes of her Muslim family and friends.

“Ali has faced adversity in her life that most will never come close to knowing,” Bell said.

Bell also said that because of her outspoken nature, Ali has angered some Islamic extremists.

“Her short film ‘Submission,’ about the oppression of women under the Islamic faith, drew great attention,” she said.

Even though Ali has become a target of Islamic extremists who wish to silence her, she continues speaking because the message she conveys transcends the blind hatred of radicals.

“As more people become aware of the violence, it will become more difficult for people to ignore it,” Ali said.

Note - in 2007, Libertarian Republican blog proclaimed. Ms. Ali "Libertarian of the Year."


SOURCE:
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net...ible-with.html

I hope you don't take this trash seriously.

[Toureg89]

i'm not going to comment about the compatibility of islam with libertarianism, since i know very little about islam in itself (as opposed to my great/positive experiences with muslims).

but i will say this, i am more afraid of europeanized/progressive liberal muslims helping to bring socialism/welfare-state ideologies here than i am of radical muslims bringing violent forms of radical islam here (and this isnt a problem specifically of muslims, but generally of europeans or people who have lived in europe)

[Sola_Fide]

How liberal was Europe in the middle ages?

If it was decidedly anti-liberal, was it because of an inherent flaw in Christianity?

No, it was the inherent flaw in Statism. Christianity has struggled to shake off Statism like any other worldview in history, but it has come the closest to doing so. Statism is a sin, a grievous sin, but it has crept into the church in different times in history.


The most significant declaration against Statism was when Jesus declared that Caesar was not God.

[Carl Corey]

but i will say this, i am more afraid of europeanized/progressive liberal muslims helping to bring socialism/welfare-state ideologies here than i am of radical muslims bringing violent forms of radical islam here (and this isnt a problem specifically of muslims, but generally of europeans or people who have lived in europe)

While they remain a minority Muslims will go to whatever ideology is the friendliest to them. While from the outside Ron Paul may seem very friendly, the freedom of speech on libertarian platforms will make it hard to mute those who oppose Islam.

So I think Muslims will ultimately vote democratic as they need that big government socialist censorship and the socialist handouts to support their large families. Appeasing Muslims is pointless as they're nobody's lapdog, but most people will find out eventually, like they did in Europe.

[zade]

Freedom does bring people together, that's very cool, even more so because you know it's driving FrankRep into a sparking short circuited mechanical meltdown

[Fozz]

While they remain a minority Muslims will go to whatever ideology is the friendliest to them. While from the outside Ron Paul may seem very friendly, the freedom of speech on libertarian platforms will make it hard to mute those who oppose Islam.

So I think Muslims will ultimately vote democratic as they need that big government socialist censorship and the socialist handouts to support their large families. Appeasing Muslims is pointless as they're nobody's lapdog, but most people will find out eventually, like they did in Europe.

That was a bigoted comment.

[Toureg89]

While they remain a minority Muslims will go to whatever ideology is the friendliest to them. While from the outside Ron Paul may seem very friendly, the freedom of speech on libertarian platforms will make it hard to mute those who oppose Islam.

So I think Muslims will ultimately vote democratic as they need that big government socialist censorship and the socialist handouts to support their large families. Appeasing Muslims is pointless as they're nobody's lapdog, but most people will find out eventually, like they did in Europe.

actually, i dont know any muslims who mooch off the system (which might be lop-sided, since most of the ones i know are family, and the muslim side of my family seems to have a strong work ethic).

all the muslims i've ever known were hard working, but, like i said, endorsed the ideology of socialism/welfare statism because those ideologies naturally exert strong influences in europe/the pan-arab middle east. you dont have to be a poor person with 6 kids in order to believe in socialism.

in reality, my irish catholic mom from new jersey has probably mooched a 100 times more money out of the federal government than my muslim dad.

she used fafsa to attend school for 7 years, and never got a degree. my dad has only attend 1-2 year of school in the US using fafsa

she uses medicare to pay for her legal drug addiction to opiods.

and she recently billed medicare 70,000$ because she had to be hospitalized for 2 weeks because of her drug use. my dad never uses any drugs.

she had 4 children she couldnt afford, only 2 of which were from my dad (including myself). the other 2 were from a christian father and a jewish father, neither of which choose to support their child, while my dad has supported both his children.

[BlackTerrel]

While they remain a minority Muslims will go to whatever ideology is the friendliest to them. While from the outside Ron Paul may seem very friendly, the freedom of speech on libertarian platforms will make it hard to mute those who oppose Islam.

So I think Muslims will ultimately vote democratic as they need that big government socialist censorship and the socialist handouts to support their large families. Appeasing Muslims is pointless as they're nobody's lapdog, but most people will find out eventually, like they did in Europe.

Don't you get tired?

I am pretty sure every single one of your 126 posts was some sort of attack on Muslims, or blacks or whoever. We get it - you don't like anyone. Good for you.

[BucksforPaul]

i'm not going to comment about the compatibility of islam with libertarianism, since i know very little about islam in itself (as opposed to my great/positive experiences with muslims).

but i will say this, i am more afraid of europeanized/progressive liberal muslims helping to bring socialism/welfare-state ideologies here than i am of radical muslims bringing violent forms of radical islam here (and this isnt a problem specifically of muslims, but generally of europeans or people who have lived in europe)

So I take it that it was the Muslims who turned Europe into a socialist society?

[oyarde]

So I take it that it was the Muslims who turned Europe into a socialist society?

Lol , thinking that happened before immigration. Probably started with unions .

[Toureg89]

So I take it that it was the Muslims who turned Europe into a socialist society?

where did i say that?

i said muslims were more likely to be a threat by bringing european style welfare statism here than terrorism.

i didnt say they created european style welfare statism...

and you obviously didnt read my 2nd response in this thread, which stated that european politics exert great influence on the arab world (and hence, muslim arabs [which is what my dads side of the family would be]).

just because a person doesnt have something 100% positive to say about muslims doesnt mean they consider muslims to be the root of all problems...

[BucksforPaul]

While they remain a minority Muslims will go to whatever ideology is the friendliest to them. While from the outside Ron Paul may seem very friendly, the freedom of speech on libertarian platforms will make it hard to mute those who oppose Islam.

So I think Muslims will ultimately vote democratic as they need that big government socialist censorship and the socialist handouts to support their large families. Appeasing Muslims is pointless as they're nobody's lapdog, but most people will find out eventually, like they did in Europe.

What a bunch of bull$#@!. You are full of lies and completely out of touch with reality. I suggest you drastically change where you get your information from. It is a fact that Muslims are conservative. They overwhelmingly voted Republican prior to the hijacking of that party by the Neo-Nazis (Neo-Cons). Your ignorance of even the basic principles of Islam is proven by your idiotic comment above. Here is a quick and basic lesson; In Islam, only God, if anyone, can claim ownership of you and no one else. This is the antithesis of socialism, but that may be too hard for you to comprehend.

[BucksforPaul]

where did i say that?

i said muslims were more likely to be a threat by bringing european style welfare statism here than terrorism.

i didnt say they created european style welfare statism...

and you obviously didnt read my 2nd response in this thread, which stated that european politics exert great influence on the arab world (and hence, muslim arabs [which is what my dads side of the family would be]).

just because a person doesnt have something 100% positive to say about muslims doesnt mean they consider muslims to be the root of all problems...

In my opinion, If you worship the one and only Creator, irrespective of your religion whether it be Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, then you cannot believe in socialism. I believe this to be true simply because in order for a society to practice socialism that government has to be huge and that government's policies, laws and rules will always conflict with God's plan of making you free. If you don't believe that God wanted you to be free, then how would you explain free will.

[low preference guy]

Even though Islam presents a disgusting world view and ethics, some Muslims can be good, especially those who don't take their religion seriously. Just like Christians; there are very good people among self-described Christians, and the best are frequently those who don't take their religion seriously.

[Brett]

Why didn't I know about this while in Maryland, I could have helped out.

Does he do internships over the summer?

[Toureg89]

In my opinion, If you worship the one and only Creator, irrespective of your religion whether it be Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, then you cannot believe in socialism. I believe this to be true simply because in order for a society to practice socialism that government has to be huge and that government's policies, laws and rules will always conflict with God's plan of making you free. If you don't believe that God wanted you to be free, then how would you explain free will.

like i said, i dont claim to know anything substantial about islam: i was not raised in religion.

however, my dad and my aunts, all of whom have lived/worked in europe, claim to be both muslim and socialist in political persuassion.

my dad doesnt regularly practice, while my aunts do.

are they practicing the same/true form of islam that you might be practicing? perhaps not, idk.

perhaps they interpret the islamic pillar of charity to justify socialism. you'd have to ask them.

but like i said, its not muslims specifically we should be concerned about, its people from socialist/welfare statist countries in general.

(and by concerned, i dont mean, we should bar them from entrance in to america, i simply mean, their beliefs, if they choose to campaign them should they come here, could add to our welfare statist state. by being concerned, i mean, we should be ready to campaign against their ideas, not to campaign to keep them out of the country.)

for instance, i have a polish teacher at my school (UCF) who is the biggest socialist. she would play the entire movie Sicko, but only allowed a 6 minute stossel clip out of an hour length stossel episode on healthcare.

one instance of a person coming from a welfare statist country, and campaigning the ideas of welfare-statism, whose effect on our retarded college student population would be to encourage welfare-statism when these students vote.