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    Updates on Costco Police Shooting in Nevada

    Erik Scott was shot by Police under questionable circumstances outside a Costco store in Summerlin, Nevada. Here are some updates:

    It appears that the Police have released previously sealed divorce records in an attempt at character assignation. As many people who have been divorced will explain, the attorney for the woman will often recommend getting a restraining order against the male, making up stories if necessary. While information in these divorce cases may be true, it is not a reliable source of information. It is "he said", "she said" in the heat of a divorce.

    The Police have also released a story that Erik pulled out his gun when his neighbor's dog bit him. They have been digging as deep as they can for any dirt.

    In related news, the coroner's inquest has finally been rescheduled, and will be televised! It is scheduled to start on Sept. 22nd, and is expected to take at least three days. It will be televised in Clark County on Cable Channel Four.
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    like to keep updated on this, and if they release video tapes as well
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    “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime." Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria deputy of the NKVD
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

    Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.

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    That sure is a lot of background information to release, and yet not release the actual costco security camera tapes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    That sure is a lot of background information to release, and yet not release the actual costco security camera tapes.....
    If Costco looks like they are doing anything under handed I hope there is some sort of organized boycott or organized mass subscription cancellation is in the works.

    I have no reason to shop there these days anyway since the ones by me are not cost competitive especially when you add in the subscription. They also do not sell anything that I cannot already get at the local grocery stores. The one by me used to have a superior meat and shellfish department that was cost competitive to boot but not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    That sure is a lot of background information to release, and yet not release the actual costco security camera tapes.....
    Those who prefer character assassination to video recordings did something on those recordings of which they are ashamed.
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    Not surprised. I'd rather face chaos head on then be "protected" from it by this "thin blue line." Which, IMHO, has actually gotten quite thick.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Not surprised. I'd rather face chaos head on then be "protected" from it by this "thin blue line." Which, IMHO, has actually gotten quite thick.
    That blue line is still pretty thin, IMO. Those guys are used to shift work and going home. Try really being on where you might get 24 hours sleep in a week of alert and reaction duty.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

    Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    That blue line is still pretty thin, IMO. Those guys are used to shift work and going home. Try really being on where you might get 24 hours sleep in a week of alert and reaction duty.
    No, I don't dispute your assertions about readiness. In agreement there.

    My post about the line getting thicker regards the expanded size and scope of the domestic police force.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Would the officers that shot him go to jail? Or would they get paid vacations?
    Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertybrewcity View Post
    Or would they get paid vacations?
    They already got a couple of weeks of paid vacation after the shooting...
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    <<<sorry. didnt mean to the get the RPF in trouble with the link & quote>>>
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    Looks like a Star Chamber process to me.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

    Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    ... Anyway, here's a story from yesterday.
    That's from the lvrj. You should not quote them nor give them a live link IMO.
    I compiled a "brief" history of events since October 2008 that are defining the global currency war and the role that gold is playing:

    Tin Foil Hats, Economic Reality and the Total Perspective Vortex

    Also, have you contacted your Congressional Rep and asked them co-sponsor Ron Paul's Rep. Paul Broun Jr.'s HR 1098 77: Free Competition in Currencies Act?

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    Ooops... did someone say LVRJ. $#@! them. Paraphrased:
    Victims have no right to autopsy evidence
    I don't have high expectations for justice but I am confident in the judicial racket's ability to protect itself.
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    i think it was reported recently that unfortunately, the video camera system was malfunctioning at the time of the shooting and no video tape will be released. bout spit my coffee out when i heard that.
    ill try to dig up the article.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ravedown View Post
    i think it was reported recently that unfortunately, the video camera system was malfunctioning at the time of the shooting and no video tape will be released. bout spit my coffee out when i heard that.
    ill try to dig up the article.
    oh ya the Illuminati got it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by squarepusher View Post
    oh ya the Illuminati got it?
    Nope, just the "investigators".

    It was sent to a well connected "lab" Where is will be examined and either altered or destroyed as necessary.

    Never mind the fact that anyone with limited and minimal computer experience could have viewed and uploaded it to you-tube within minutes after the incident.
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  22. #19
    The inquest has started, is anybody able to watch it in Nevada?

    Bombshell witness: Costco employee claims that he did pull out the gun and point it at Police.

    They are also saying that he was a prescription drug addict and seeing a shrink...(edit: multiple doctors, not sure if any were psychiatrists)

    News reports:

    http://www.ktnv.com/global/Category....partnerclipid=

    http://www.ktnv.com/global/Category....partnerclipid=
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    They are claiming that he had very high levels of morphine and xanax in his blood...
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    And still no release of the security cam video. Attack the victim.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    And still no release of the security cam video. Attack the victim.....
    The, um, hard-drive was, um, unusable. If they are looking for evidence on your computer, they can retrieve anything.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The inquest has started, is anybody able to watch it in Nevada?

    Bombshell witness: Costco employee claims that he did pull out the gun and point it at Police.

    They are also saying that he was a prescription drug addict and seeing a shrink...(edit: multiple doctors, not sure if any were psychiatrists)

    News reports:

    http://www.ktnv.com/global/Category....partnerclipid=

    http://www.ktnv.com/global/Category....partnerclipid=
    Wow, that witness came off as,,,less than credible. To my ear anyway.
    And what is the digging dirt about,, and how is it relative?

    I do wish someone with an ounce of integrity would leak that video footage.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Wow, that witness came off as,,,less than credible. To my ear anyway.
    And what is the digging dirt about,, and how is it relative?

    I do wish someone with an ounce of integrity would leak that video footage.
    That hard-drive was so, uh, fragmented, that it had to be destroyed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That hard-drive was so, uh, fragmented, that it had to be destroyed...
    That's what I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Nope, just the "investigators".

    It was sent to a well connected "lab" Where is will be examined and either altered or destroyed as necessary.

    Never mind the fact that anyone with limited and minimal computer experience could have viewed and uploaded it to you-tube within minutes after the incident.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    That's what I thought.

    Oh, you must be using the technical, computer nerd meaning of "fragment". The Police are talking about the fragmentation that occurs when the hard drive impacts the ground at high velocity several times.
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  31. #27
    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...ted-gun-didnt/

    Extensive story at that link.

    Costco is saying that the surveillance system hadn't been working for days. The hard drive was sent to Seagate for analysis, but no data was found after the point where the system (hard drive) had failed days before.

    Officer who did the shooting testified that Erik had pulled out his gun, but it turns out it was in the holster. Erik said "I have a gun", which is apparently what CCP people are told to do? Officer took it as a threat, and didn't know that the gun was in a holster. Officer also did not recall correctly all of the words said, as audio recording contradict what he thought happened. Pretty typical of human memory, but suspicious in this case. The fact seems to be that the cop told him to drop the weapon. When Erik took out the weapon in the holster to drop the gun, the officer plugged him. Boils down once again to an overly jumpy and trigger happy officer. A new profession seems in order for this guy, and a serious look needs to be taken at training for all law enforcement in the US. Every single citizen is not a crazed killer, and should not be treated as such.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...ted-gun-didnt/

    Extensive story at that link.

    Costco is saying that the surveillance system hadn't been working for days. The hard drive was sent to Seagate for analysis, but no data was found after the point where the system (hard drive) had failed days before.
    .
    If the system was not working why would the drive be removed for analysis?

    And as others have mentioned, this system has redundant off site backups,,where they also destroyed?

    If that video had shown the man pull a gun it would have been on the 6 o'clock news that day.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    If the system was not working why would the drive be removed for analysis?
    After the shooting it was removed. There would plenty of evidence if Costco really had scheduled a repair with their support company before the shooting. You would think that it would be required as evidence to back up Costco's claims.

    Lierley also testified he was aware that the video recording system at the store wasn’t working. He had contacted Vegas Valley Locking Systems, the local company that provides technical support for the surveillance system, the Wednesday before the shooting. A repair appointment had been scheduled for the following Monday.

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...ted-gun-didnt/
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  34. #30
    Very suspicious.
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