Glenn Beck ought to read this...

[Anti Federalist]

Lots of MLK channeling going on at the rally today.

Lots of troop and mission worship as well.

Beck would do well to read this MLK speech from 1967 on the war in Viet-nam

One money quote to start out:

This call for a world-wide fellowship that lifts neighborly concern beyond one's tribe, race, class and nation is in reality a call for an all-embracing and unconditional love for all men. This oft misunderstood and misinterpreted concept -- so readily dismissed by the Nietzsches of the world as a weak and cowardly force -- has now become an absolute necessity for the survival of man. When I speak of love I am not speaking of some sentimental and weak response. I am speaking of that force which all of the great religions have seen as the supreme unifying principle of life. Love is somehow the key that unlocks the door which leads to ultimate reality. This Hindu-Moslem-Christian-Jewish-Buddhist belief about ultimate reality is beautifully summed up in the first epistle of Saint John:

Let us love one another; for love is God and everyone that loveth is born of God and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. If we love one another God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

And this:

This Madness Must Cease
Somehow this madness must cease. We must stop now. I speak as a child of God and brother to the suffering poor of Vietnam. I speak for those whose land is being laid waste, whose homes are being destroyed, whose culture is being subverted. I speak for the poor of America who are paying the double price of smashed hopes at home and death and corruption in Vietnam. I speak as a citizen of the world, for the world as it stands aghast at the path we have taken. I speak as an American to the leaders of my own nation. The great initiative in this war is ours. The initiative to stop it must be ours.

Read the whole speech here:

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/06h...rism/war01.htm

[Vessol]

Wow I never knew that MLK was such an opponent against the Vietnam War, that's pretty awesome.

[Anti Federalist]

Wow I never knew that MLK was such an opponent against the Vietnam War, that's pretty awesome.

Is it any surprise he ended up dead almost one year to the day after giving that speech?

[RedStripe]

Wow I never knew that MLK was such an opponent against the Vietnam War, that's pretty awesome.

Yea, he also became an outspoken critic of economic inequality, the state-capitalist system, etc.

That's when he got killed - when he started challenging the fundamentals.

[sofia]

King opposed Viet nam not because we had no vital interest being there....but because we were fighting communism - an ideal he was more than sympathetic to.

True, we should never have gone to Viet nam....but once there, we could have easily beaten the communists and saved millions of Vietnamese from being slaughtered by communists after the war.

But due to the leftist agitation of communists like King....we fought the war with hands tied and began scaling down just at the moment when victory was in sight (after we crushed the Tet offensive)

Communists like King and Cronkite cost our boys victory...and the lives of Vietnamese "boat people" and cambodians who got slaughtered.

King and his ilk got our boys killed...

King was a marxist....an adulterer posing as a "minister"...a plagiarist.....and he once called Barry Goldwater (the Ron Paul of his day) a "nazi"

[Vessol]

What would've been a "victory" in Vietnam, sofia?

Crushing the North Vietnamese government and setting up a government such as Ngo Dinh Diem's again?

There is no "victory" in war. Only more and more death and destruction.

[RedStripe]

King opposed Viet nam not because we had no vital interest being there....but because we were fighting communism - an ideal he was more than sympathetic to.

Um, anyone who looks at the history of Vietnam should be more sympathetic to North Vietnamese and their peasant supporters in the South than the Western-backed dictators in the South, the French, or the Americans.

You know that whole "revolution of the masses, overthrowing the oppressive ruling system" we always pretend to be agitating for (politically, or otherwise).. well they actually did that in Vietnam, but because their revolutionary aims including the reform of an economic system based on centuries of oppression they were "the bad guys."

True, we should never have gone to Viet nam....but once there, we could have easily beaten the communists and saved millions of Vietnamese from being slaughtered by communists after the war.

I'd like to see a credible source showing that the North Vietnamese government "slaughtered" millions of people after the war, because I've heard this peddled as a fact on these forums before.

Secondly, there's no proof that we could have "easily beaten the communists." The people supported the Viet Cong, and despised the US puppet regime of the south. I know it's hard to admit, but a dedicated population seeking to end foreign occupation can go toe-to-toe with even the most technically-advanced military in the world.

But due to the leftist agitation of communists like King....we fought the war with hands tied and began scaling down just at the moment when victory was in sight (after we crushed the Tet offensive)

Please cite a single primary source document which shows that "leftist agitation" lead to the war being fought "with hands tied." We dropped more fucking bombs on that country and it's neighbors than were dropped in WWII! We burnt entire villages down, and committed all sorts of atrocities against the people. What on earth were we holding back? The indiscriminate use of nuclear weapons? I mean, we already were pumping untold millions of gallons of chemicals on the people, and carpet-bombing them on a regular basis.

Communists like King and Cronkite cost our boys victory...and the lives of Vietnamese "boat people" and cambodians who got slaughtered.

King and his ilk got our boys killed...

Haha, you post could easily be a parody of the most absurd set of beliefs and conclusions one might draw with respect to the Vietnam war. First of all, the death and destruction suffered by the people of Vietnam was a direct result of a barbaric campaign leveled against them by the United States at the behest of a civilian leadership convinced of the merits of US imperialism. Oh, but let's just blame it on the the truth-tellers, the people who had the balls to say that the war was an immoral and unjustified adventure.

King was a marxist....an adulterer posing as a "minister"...a plagiarist.....and he once called Barry Goldwater (the Ron Paul of his day) a "nazi"

Oh my, a MARXIST! Have you ever even read a single thing by Marx? Of course not, but let's just keep the bogyman fear-mongering alive.

[TNforPaul45]

King opposed Viet nam not because we had no vital interest being there....but because we were fighting communism - an ideal he was more than sympathetic to.

True, we should never have gone to Viet nam....but once there, we could have easily beaten the communists and saved millions of Vietnamese from being slaughtered by communists after the war.

But due to the leftist agitation of communists like King....we fought the war with hands tied and began scaling down just at the moment when victory was in sight (after we crushed the Tet offensive)

Communists like King and Cronkite cost our boys victory...and the lives of Vietnamese "boat people" and cambodians who got slaughtered.

King and his ilk got our boys killed...

King was a marxist....an adulterer posing as a "minister"...a plagiarist.....and he once called Barry Goldwater (the Ron Paul of his day) a "nazi"

Funny, I thought it was our presidents that ordered our troops over there in physical proximity to the bullets that were flying that got our boys killed, not people who spoke out against it.

[AuH20]

What would've been a "victory" in Vietnam, sofia?

Crushing the North Vietnamese government and setting up a government such as Ngo Dinh Diem's again?

There is no "victory" in war. Only more and more death and destruction.

a 20 year road to nowhere in which defense contractors thrived. The war should have not gone on longer than 4 years, but victory was never the intent.

[libertybrewcity]

King opposed Viet nam not because we had no vital interest being there....but because we were fighting communism - an ideal he was more than sympathetic to.

Source?

King and his ilk got our boys killed...

Source?

King was a marxist....an adulterer posing as a "minister"...a plagiarist.....and he once called Barry Goldwater (the Ron Paul of his day) a "nazi"

Source?