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Thread: Swedish Pirate Party launching their own ISP: Pirate ISP. Big brother gets the finger

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    Swedish Pirate Party launching their own ISP: Pirate ISP. Big brother gets the finger

    The Swedish Pirate Party, who are at the forefront of anti-copyright lobbying in Sweden, are planning to shake up the country’s ISP market. After taking over the supply of bandwidth to The Pirate Bay, Piratpartiet will now partner in the launch of Pirate ISP, a new broadband service that will offer anonymity to customers and provide financial support to the Party.

    To defend the rights of BitTorrent users worldwide, the Swedish Pirate Party volunteered to provide bandwidth to The Pirate Bay after previous hosts got into legal trouble in May. At the beginning of July, the Pirate Party surprised again. Not only would they be The Pirate Bay’s new host, but they would use Parliamentary immunity to run the site from inside the Swedish Parliament.

    Now the Party have made another interesting announcement. Together with technology partners, they will enter the broadband market with Pirate ISP, a new service designed to deliver consumer Internet in line with the Pirate Party’s ideals.
    Gustav Nipe, student of economics, long-standing Pirate Party member and CEO of Pirate ISP told TorrentFreak that Pirate ISP is based on the hacker ontology. “If you see something and you think it’s broken you build a patch and fix it. With that as a reference point we are launching an ISP. This is one way to tackle the big brother society.”

    “The Pirate ISP is needed in different ways. One is to compete with other ISPs, let them fight more for our internet. If they don’t behave there will always be someone else taking their share,” Nipe added.

    Aside from the competition angle, Gustav Nipe told TorrentFreak that the Pirate ISP will maximize privacy for all its customers. Operated by ViaEuropa – the company behind the iPredator anonymity service – Pirate ISP users will remain anonymous.

    The service began beta testing in the city of Lund yesterday with around 100 residents of LKF, a housing organization whose aim is to provide quality accommodations at a reasonable cost.

    After the first two weeks of testing, the initial expansion aim is to take 5% of the market in Lund and then set up in further locations around Sweden. This is a reasonable aim according to Nipe, who told TorrentFreak that they start small so they can assure quality service to all their customers.

    At the Hacknight conference in Malmö which ended yesterday, Nipe told Shane Murray from nrli.tv that they will not allow the Swedish Government to monitor Pirate ISP users and will refuse to retain logs. He warned that any attempt to force it to do otherwise will result in a constitutional issue.

    Nipe was also clear on how Pirate ISP would respond to outside interference, in particular that from the United States.

    “They can bring on whatever they have, we will refuse to follow there. We don’t agree with what they are saying and we don’t agree with the laws they are making so if they have an issue with us, then we will have an issue – but that’s it.”

    For most potential Pirate ISP customers who intend to use the service to file-share, the immediate threats will come from closer to home, primarily from Henrik Pontén at Svenska Antipiratbyrån, the Swedish Anti-Piracy Bureau. Nipe said they are prepared to deal with this challenge.

    “It would be a pity to reveal all the tricks that we have, so we will save those for later. But we have ways to ensure that no customer should have to get a sad letter home from Henrik Pontén.”

    For his part, yesterday Pontén seemed unimpressed.

    “Our investigations have focused on people with much higher safety. The question has been asked a thousand times before,” he said. “When the police come calling, they must disclose the information.”

    It seems that the wider Swedish public won’t have long to wait to discover if Pirate ISP can live up to its promises. According to Nipe they will roll out big in Sweden at the end of this summer.

    http://torrentfreak.com/worlds-first...sweden-100720/
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    This is like the Swiss Bank of ISPs. They will not answer to US subpoenas or requests for private user information!

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    We are winning!
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    How many more times are we going to let them screw up our economy?

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    Let's just pray no busybodying legislators get the bright idea to block the service in the States, like so many of them have done with foreign software and other tech services they don't like.

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    Wonder if they accept foreign accounts... (for privacy, not so much bandwidth)

    -t

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    Digg!

    ht tp://digg.com/tech_news/World_s_First_Pirate_ISP_Launches_In_Sweden

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    This is awesome. Go go Pirate ISP, and anti-Copyright/IP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyRey View Post
    Digg!

    ht tp://digg.com/tech_news/World_s_First_Pirate_ISP_Launches_In_Sweden
    The Digg link started to take off almost immediately and it's now trending faster than I can keep track of it! If it wouldn't inconvenience you guys too much, I would highly appreciate it if we could all Twitter and/or Facebook this Digg link and share it with others who might be interested.

    Here it is, ladies and gents. The beginning of the end of the corporate state's oligopoly over information!
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    Can you imagine what would happen if someone tried this in the "land of the free?"

    Within a week, the Federal Storm troopers, in full SWAT gear, would be crashing through your door at 2 a.m., shoot your dogs, terrorize your family, and take all your computer equipment.

    The next day, they'd realize they'd gotten the address wrong. They'd come back to your house, step over the corpses of the dogs, return your broken computer and not issue an apology.

    Maybe, if you were lucky, they'd give you a sarcastic "Have a nice day!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post
    Can you imagine what would happen if someone tried this in the "land of the free?"

    Within a week, the Federal Storm troopers, in full SWAT gear, would be crashing through your door at 2 a.m., shoot your dogs, terrorize your family, and take all your computer equipment.

    The next day, they'd realize they'd gotten the address wrong. They'd come back to your house, step over the corpses of the dogs, return your broken computer and not issue an apology.

    Maybe, if you were lucky, they'd give you a sarcastic "Have a nice day!"
    Sounds about right, give or take a departmental wrist-slap, and a press conference to mollify the press. The head honchos will assure the public "swift and fair administration of justice in the matter", but nothing will ever come of it.

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    there is hope.

    at one time Sweden was the example of the nanny state. if it can happen there it can happen anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    there is hope.

    at one time Sweden was the example of the nanny state. if it can happen there it can happen anywhere.
    Sweden is still a nanny state when it comes to government benefits, but Sweden (and most of Europe) are far more free when it comes to social issues- sex, drugs, etc.

    The USA is very uptight (you can thank the religious fundies for most of that) and is one of the few developed nations where a 1 second flash of a boob on TV will send the nation into hysterics and send the government censors into overdrive.

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    I can see the EU trying to expel them over this. Hopefully Sweden is bright enough to take it as a blessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post

    The USA is very uptight (you can thank the religious fundies for most of that) and is one of the few developed nations where a 1 second flash of a boob on TV will send the nation into hysterics and send the government censors into overdrive.
    No, I think you are confusing that with the self-righteous ATHEIST nut-jobs...

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    Maybe The Obama Forum can come back up.
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    this is sweet
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post
    Can you imagine what would happen if someone tried this in the "land of the free?"

    Within a week, the Federal Storm troopers, in full SWAT gear, would be crashing through your door at 2 a.m., shoot your dogs, terrorize your family, and take all your computer equipment.

    The next day, they'd realize they'd gotten the address wrong. They'd come back to your house, step over the corpses of the dogs, return your broken computer and not issue an apology.

    Maybe, if you were lucky, they'd give you a sarcastic "Have a nice day!"

    You're wrong! Wrong wrong wrong!


    ...they wouldn't return your broken computer.


    You're right about everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason View Post
    657 digg
    And climbing!

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    They are working on doing the same thing in the UK.
    http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/pi...icts-ppuk-8534
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    Sounds like you guys are guilty of conspiracy to commit Liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertarian4321 View Post
    Sweden is still a nanny state when it comes to government benefits, but Sweden (and most of Europe) are far more free when it comes to social issues- sex, drugs, etc.

    The USA is very uptight (you can thank the religious fundies for most of that) and is one of the few developed nations where a 1 second flash of a boob on TV will send the nation into hysterics and send the government censors into overdrive.
    Sweden still has a war on drugs not much less than US. And until recently you couldn't even buy asprin in any but a state run pharmacy. And many of the drugs that are available on the continent are not here (it seems generally to go along with the US FDA), for example, injectable milk thistle extract against acute mushroom poisoning and Tianeptin against depression (a really good drug, btw.) are not approved here. You must be thinking of Portugal or Holland (though they've banned mushrooms in Holland ;(

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngr View Post
    Sweden still has a war on drugs not much less than US. And until recently you couldn't even buy asprin in any but a state run pharmacy. And many of the drugs that are available on the continent are not here (it seems generally to go along with the US FDA), for example, injectable milk thistle extract against acute mushroom poisoning and Tianeptin against depression (a really good drug, btw.) are not approved here. You must be thinking of Portugal or Holland (though they've banned mushrooms in Holland ;(
    Sweden (as well as most countries in Europe) outlaws drug use, but they focus more on treating drug users, whereas in the USA, drug users are far more likely to be imprisoned. Also, Sweden isn't known for sending groups of heavily armed and armored police with automatic weapons crashing into the home of a citizen based on something as flimsy as an anonymous tip. The war against citizens who use drugs in the USA is far more violent (and we imprison a much higher percentage of our citizens) than Sweden or any other western nation. You are far less likely to be killed, injured, or imprisoned if you use drugs in Sweden than if you do so in the USA. So while drugs are illegal in both countries, Sweden is far less brutal in it's repression.

    Sweden is also far less uptight about sex than the USA. As I said before, I don't think a brief nipple flash would send Sweden into a panic for weeks like it did here. As I recall, Sweden even allows (close your eyes, Americans) topless sun bathing for women- something that would get you arrested in most of the USA.

    Sweden, is also far more tolerant of gays and the like.

    It's not just the Netherlands that is less repressed than the USA (they are FAR less repressed than we are), even nations that most Americans consider somewhat stodgy and proper (e.g. Germany) are far more open than we are.



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