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Thread: Novak urges Paul Independent run

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    If we can't pull of the republican nomination forget a third party run. Ross Perot spent millions and millions on his campaign and didn't win a state. He recieved lots of votes- 17%. But a win is still a win. John Anderson in 1980 got 10% but didn't win a state.
    Neither of those people had a grassroots organization like we do...
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau



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    From Wiki:
    1968

    Former Democratic Governor of Alabama George Wallace of the American Independent Party ran in the 1968 election. Wallace won 13% of the popular vote, receiving 45 electoral votes in the South and many votes in the North. No other third party candidate has won any states in the Electoral College since. Republican Richard Nixon won the election with 43% of the popular vote and 301 electoral votes.
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau

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    Even wallace didn't have a grassroots organization like we do...and he got 45 electoral college votes with only 13% of the national vote.
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau

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    Is it me, or is it setting up for another 3rd part election like in 1992? And we all know who won that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hummtide View Post
    Is it me, or is it setting up for another 3rd part election like in 1992? And we all know who won that one!
    Think furthur back in history, we are setting up a third party election like...oh lets' say.... when the GOP was a third party and the major two were the Whigs and the Dems. The GOP pulled the base away from the Whigs and became the new Big Party.
    If the GOP nominates Rudy.... we will see that happen again.
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau

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    Quote Originally Posted by steph3n View Post
    plus he will get get blamed for getting hillary elected, when if he is not the candidate from the GOP then ANYONE on the dem side will win regardless!
    You're right, and if I hear one more "great American" tell me that, I'm gonna slug someone.
    We elect our own oppressors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton View Post
    You're right, and if I hear one more "great American" tell me that, I'm gonna slug someone.
    If Hillary gets elected, it is because people voted for her, not because someone ran against her... IF she gets no votes. she doesn't win... the object of the game is to get more electoral college votes. I believe the message is strong enough to survive outside the machine.
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau

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    if its Hillary vs Rudy we'll just start a movement to draft Ron Paul. Do something like 20 mil for Ron in 1 month...shouldn't be that hard to raise considering at that point people will be looking for a 3rd choice

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    I dont see Paul losing the Rep nomination
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsTime View Post
    I dont see Paul losing the Rep nomination
    I hope for the best, plan for the worst. I hope he wins the nomination, I'm working hard for it.... but I also spend some time in thought on what is the best course for us to take, if the nomination is not given to Dr. Paul.
    In Louisiana, over half the GOP delegates are hand-picked by Bush people. Do you think they are voting for Ron Paul? Even if Ron Paul won the popular vote in the Louisiana GOP Presidential Primary, he wouldn't have the majority of Delegates coming from this state. Its a rigged game from the beginning....
    Thus, I search history, and use my own political experience, to find successful routes we can take in the event that we can't overcome the mountain set before us...
    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." ~ Mark Twain.
    Quote Originally Posted by reduen View Post
    Perfection is simply not obtainable... Thusly, I would rather contend with the inconveniences of too much liberty than contend with the inconveniences of not enough...
    I saw that the State was half-witted, that it was timid as a lone woman with her silver spoons, and that it did not know its friends from its foes, and I lost all remaining respect for it, and pitied it."
    --Henry David Thoreau

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